Ofcom will now investigate Talk Tv re transphobia.

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Here we go again.

From Good Law Project:

We said we’d sue over Ofcom’s decision to dismiss 22,000 complaints about transphobia on TalkTV – now the regulator has caved.

But we had monitored its output for July 2025, a month in which it carried 11 discussions on trans people. And in every discussion, its hosts and guests consistently spouted transphobic views. TalkTV’s stance mirrors the broader editorial position of its sister newspaper The Times, whose toxic and intellectually dishonest campaign against trans people we believe to be a contributor to the rise in hate crime against them.

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Among my misdeeds, apparently, is that I said this on air: "By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

I'm happy to be found guilty of defending women's rights and safety, knowing the actual law, understanding basic biology and knowing what a woman is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Good grief.

No one is disputing "to be trans is to have a difference related to the brain / psyche whereby you persistently , pervasively perceives yourself to be other than your birth sex."

We know some trans people feel this way. As you said, seethlaw feels this way.
But you are are categorically wrong that this is the ONLY way. As has been pointed out to you several times. You're literally saying that other trans people that don't follow your mantra quoted above are not trans. On what grounds/authority do you have to state this?? You are not entitled to make that distinction. You're not them.

I'd have a go at popping your much repeated mantra above on trans reddit or such. Educate them on there that if they don't feel that way, they're not trans. You'll have your arse handed to you in milliseconds.

well now. There is a surprise!

Don’t forget also responded with “lol” when asked to respect another’s boundaries.

The hypocrisy from the poster on this thread has been pretty clear over several aspects.

Being trans is not about stereotypes. You keep repeating this.

Hi there, I've asked if you could refrain from being personal.

Thank you/

For some people it is. As a member of the trans community l’m saying it is. Are you denying my lived experience?

Sadly for you, you cannot control other people's speech.

I do not see how stereotypes can not come into it. What else is there, other than physical reality and social expectations?

Pass agg in the extreme

Maybe people will when you stop being obnoxious and condescending? Just a thought?

I think you’re gatekeeping.

then what’s with all the men in fishnets flashing their underwear on trans Reddit (until they banned it)? Open your eyes, for goodness sake.

Why isn't that "sex identification"? Around the same age children also understand that they have two legs (if they do) and that dogs are one group of animals and cats are another. It's just a set of pieces of information about the world.
A child who insisted their cat was a dog or that they had 3 legs would soon be corrected though being 3 they might insist that Tabby was definitely a dog.

Is Pips Bunce trans? Pips switches between Pips and Phillip during the week so does that class as persistently perceiving as other than his birth sex?

Sure. Anyone can claim be trans if they want to, just like anyone can claim to be depressed , or gay, or any number of things , but why would they?

What being trans is, is to have a cognitive/ psychic difference in the brain, such that your perceive / recognise yourself to be other than your birth sex. You can claim this to avoid prison if you like; or because you're a gender critical feminist who wants to poke fun and discredit trans people experience. It really doesn't matter. it doesn't make you factually trans any more than claiming disability to access disability benefits factually means you have a disability.

Of course we shouldn't go around everyday judging who is or isn't disabled, or gay, or autistic, or trans, based on our external perception. we just have to trust, ( which does in fact reflect the actual reality, for all sorts of obvious reasons) that for the overwhelming part, the reason people are claiming these identities is because that is who they really are.

You know, I told you about trans people I know and care about, and said I didn't think the differences between their lived experiences fit into what I understand your definition to be.

Your response was to snarkily say that I was projecting my prejudices onto them. As I say, people who I know and care about.

And then you have the nerve, you have the almighty crust, to scold posters for being "personal"?

Physician, heal thyself.

Hmmm. We're not going to trust them enough to let the male ones cross our boundaries. Soz

But there are many trans people who don't subscribe to your narrow definition. We've discussed them on this thread quite a bit.
So are we listening to them and believing they are who they say they are, or not?

No cognitive learning about gender can't be equated with a child learning they have two legs.
It's much more complex and systemic than that.
Yes both are part of psychological development, but it would be the psychological equivalent of comparing , say, the endocrine system to a single lymph node.

Yes I don't believe that what you described reflected the actual lived experiences of trans people you know .

What you described were simply common prejudices/ projections about trans people that do not have anything to do with the realities of being trans.

I think it's really important to challenge this.

I understand me saying that offended you, but it is not the same as calling another poster names:

I'm so confused 😐 What's the point of coming onto a forum if you're not able or willing to explain the way you conceive of the most basic words used in the conversation? If all you can do is repeat, "You're wrong," or "I don't agree with you"? How does that advance anything for anyone?

I mean, I had my turn in an almost-cult, the church I grew up in. I had my turn arguing online with its detractors. But at least I did my best to engage with their arguments, to try to understand them, to try to explain to them what I thought and why I thought that way.

This circus of "Things are the way I say because I say so"... What's the point 🤔???

So you keep insisting: I don't agree that is true

I know it's annoying that on FWR we tend to use words with their common meaning.

This means that, when a poster comes along and does that Aleister Crowley thing of saying "I'm using words like 'sex' and 'male' and 'female' with special esoteric meanings that you unsophisticated muggles couldn't possibly understand", and then goes on to treat us to hundreds of posts telling us we're wrong on the basis of private definitions that they refuse to explain... well, it makes conversation difficult.

But maybe that's the point.

Sure. Anyone can claim be trans if they want to, just like anyone can claim to be depressed , or gay, or any number of things , but why would they?

Well, (how to put this) some get a stiffie being around half-dressed women, especially if they can be half-dressed themselves, so there’s that.

Then there’s the attention and (so stunning, so brave) kind affirmations.

Then there’s, for some, the hope of avoiding female puberty and having to deal with a developing female body.

I’m sure there are other reasons too.

I'm certain it is the point

I'm not sure how you can say that to me when you know perfectly well I've written numerous posts explaining / discussing things. BuT at a certain point people just start repeating the same things over and over, what's the point in typing out the same?

. I still think it's important to stand up and be counted as saying no.