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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The schools still supporting trans ideology behind parents’ backs

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IwantToRetire · 04/12/2025 19:41

Published within the space of 12 months, the Cass Review and the Supreme Court gender ruling were hailed as fundamental shifts away from the trans ideology that has captured just about every area of British public life.

In schools, however, it has been a different story. According to whistleblowing parents, governors and staff, a pro-trans rearguard action is under way, with activists in schools, local authorities, unions, sex-education groups, charities and other external bodies determined to ensure schools stay “gender affirming”, teaching children they can change sex.

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/12/04/schools-trans-ideology-children-parents/

And at https://archive.is/sEOb9

(I think most on FWR are aware of this, so posting as much to say even if only the Telegraph it isn't that people aren't aware. More shame on the Government for not getting on with enforcing the Supreme Court ruling.)

The schools still supporting trans ideology behind parents’ backs
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MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:32

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MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:33

Owly11 · 05/12/2025 08:31

Yes.

Ahhh hahaha. I'm always at it, while trying to pee and eat lunch at the same time.

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:34

Ah threads like these are the equivalent of reading the daily mail online.

BlueLegume · 05/12/2025 08:35

Let’s leave @Howseitgoin and @MarymaryquiteC to continue their absolute lack of understanding of what is going on in society. Social contagion of trans ideology hopefully will start to wane.

Yes these children need help. They do not need medication to block a perfectly natural part of life - puberty. They do not need to be told amputation of healthy body parts will make them happy. they need better help to understand growing up can be difficult but it makes you the adult who can have a good life knowing there will be ups and downs. Affirming children into believing being a different sex will make life better is simply abuse.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 08:38

Do not engage with the community disruptors.

RunsWithDinosaurs · 05/12/2025 08:42

WarriorN · 05/12/2025 07:05

Unfortunately some of the previous kcsie’s have given teachers the impression that “LGBT children “ are more precious and prone to bullying than non LGBT children. The EA alongside activist orgs creating educational content have further fanned these flames

it’s created a culture in schools whereby teachers think they know better than the parents.

I’ve seen it in relation to other things in schools and now I have my own children I do challenge it.

For the love of Mike can we stop lumping in LGB with the T?!

And secondly it’s not an impression that LGB are subject to bullying. If not we wouldn’t see so many young lesbians trying to trans away the gay and take on male identities to make the same sex attraction more acceptable.

attichoarder · 05/12/2025 08:45

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:28

Those sneaky teachers with all this time on their hands, running around the halls whispering trans ideology in kids ears, it's just got to stop.

Sadly some teachers are promoting this ideology

Justme56 · 05/12/2025 08:48

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:33

Ahhh hahaha. I'm always at it, while trying to pee and eat lunch at the same time.

Thanks for your honesty!

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 09:01

attichoarder · 05/12/2025 08:45

Sadly some teachers are promoting this ideology

Uh huh

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 09:02

Justme56 · 05/12/2025 08:48

Thanks for your honesty!

You're most welcome. I'll do a pro trans assembly next Monday.

Abhannmor · 05/12/2025 09:03

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 09:01

Uh huh

Don't you have a class to prepare for?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 09:14

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 09:02

You're most welcome. I'll do a pro trans assembly next Monday.

If this poster is actually a teacher, they are posting during morning registration. 🤔

BonfireLady · 05/12/2025 09:19

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 08:22

Are you even a parent?

That a child believes they are the opposite sex isn't any where near the same as concealing vaping, drugs or sex. That you would consider such a serious psychological disposition as completely unnoticeable makes me question your ability to parse the bleedin' obvious.

The parents should be able to at least detect something is up. That they are oblivious to their child's psychological suffering AND completely unapproachable for a child to ask for support on such serious issues is their doing not the school, activists or social media or anyone else they want to point the finger at for not developing a trusting communicative relationship let alone being committed enough to notice serious changes in their child's behaviour.

Stop infantilising & making excuses for people who abdicate their responsibilities as parents to burden society with them.

And just so you know, it's not teachers responsibility to play private life snitch because of parental incompetency but educate children particularly when they might be putting their students well being at stake should the parents become abusive. LGBTQ minors are one of the highest risk categories of homelessness that's usually a result of parental rejection. So if its safe guarding you care about you might want to shine the spotlight more on unfit parenting that the rest of society always seem to get stuck cleaning up after.

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I will assume that this is addressed to me, so will respond as such.

Are you even a parent?

Yes. Are you?

That a child believes they are the opposite sex isn't any where near the same as concealing vaping, drugs or sex. That you would consider such a serious psychological disposition as completely unnoticeable makes me question your ability to parse the bleedin' obvious.

I didn't suggest it would be completely unnoticeable. I suggested that children may well put in a concerted effort to conceal it from their parents, thus potentially making it unnoticeable. I would expect that parents would notice that their child was withdrawn or behaving differently but, owing to the effort their child makes to conceal what's going on, they may be unaware of the details behind the distress. To parse the bleedin' obvious, this concealment is similar to other issues that children may conceal from their parents when they are at risk of harm.

The parents should be able to at least detect something is up.

Agreed. See above.

That they are oblivious to their child's psychological suffering..

They are unlikely to be. See above.

... and completely unapproachable for a child to ask for support on such serious issues..

I'm not the one suggesting the parents are completely unapproachable at all. I'm saying that someone has likely led the child to believe this.

is their doing not the school, activists or social media or anyone else they want to point the finger at for not developing a trusting communicative relationship let alone being committed enough to notice serious changes in their child's behaviour.

DARVO! ✅ I needed that one for my bingo card. I'm not sure I've ever experienced it myself so directly on a thread. It was an interesting experience. Thank you 🙏

Stop infantilising & making excuses for people who abdicate their responsibilities as parents to burden society with them.

Oh! There's more. Thank you! 😊

And just so you know, it's not teachers responsibility to play private life snitch because of parental incompetency but educate children particularly when they might be putting their students well being at stake should the parents become abusive

Teachers are at the front line of child safeguarding. It is very much their responsibility to report issues of concern about children's parents.
(Obviously what they're not meant to do is assume that parents are harming children if they raise concerns about them becoming gender questioning).

LGBTQ minors are one of the highest risk categories of homelessness

What is an LGBTQ minor? The LGB bit I get. The T... I assume you mean gender questioning. If so, see above. The Q?

that's usually a result of parental rejection

Parental rejection or alienation from parents, following coercion to believe that their parents are harmful to them? Muddling up LGB with TQ is particularly unhelpful here. Yes, there will be some homophobic parents but it's almost impossible to spot those if LGB gets bundled up with TQ issues.

So if its safe guarding you care about you might want to shine the spotlight more on unfit parenting that the rest of society always seem to get stuck cleaning up after.

Sadly, there will always be unfit parents. Thankfully, we have safeguarding laws and protocols to help identify and address this. Also sadly, some of those responsible for doing so have ended up with a safeguarding approach that is upside down. Where they fail to spot that the parent is not the risk here, but instead it's the school and the LGBTQ activism within it.

BlueLegume · 05/12/2025 09:19

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 09:14

If this poster is actually a teacher, they are posting during morning registration. 🤔

Edited

Well said @selffellatingouroborosofhate they are also suggesting promoting an ideology which is harmful to some children which goes against safeguarding rules. This from Mia Hughes is powerful…….

@_CryMiaRiver
Karen Carpenter's tragic battle triggered a social contagion of anorexia;
Princess Diana's public struggle with bulimia had the same effect.
The book Sybil kicked off the multiple personality disorder epidemic in the 80s. Running parallel to that was the Satanic Panic, set off by the book Michelle Remembers. As a result, thousands of lives were destroyed.
As cutting started to appear in movies and TV shows, the number of teens self-harming increased, and when TikTok influencers with Tourette's launched to fame, adolescent girls began experiencing TikTok tics.
Mental illnesses are inextricably entwined with the cultural fads and whims of the era in which they arise. Our celebration of the likes of Jazz Jennings and Ellen Page captures the minds of young people, plants the dangerous idea that the discomfort and anguish of puberty can be miraculously solved with drugs and surgeries, sending many down the same devastating path to destruction.
Children and adolescents no more need trans role models than they do anorexic or bulimic role models. Every time we celebrate a celebrity coming out as trans, we sacrifice countless young people to the horror of this medical atrocity.

BonfireLady · 05/12/2025 09:30

BonfireLady · 05/12/2025 09:19

I will assume that this is addressed to me, so will respond as such.

Are you even a parent?

Yes. Are you?

That a child believes they are the opposite sex isn't any where near the same as concealing vaping, drugs or sex. That you would consider such a serious psychological disposition as completely unnoticeable makes me question your ability to parse the bleedin' obvious.

I didn't suggest it would be completely unnoticeable. I suggested that children may well put in a concerted effort to conceal it from their parents, thus potentially making it unnoticeable. I would expect that parents would notice that their child was withdrawn or behaving differently but, owing to the effort their child makes to conceal what's going on, they may be unaware of the details behind the distress. To parse the bleedin' obvious, this concealment is similar to other issues that children may conceal from their parents when they are at risk of harm.

The parents should be able to at least detect something is up.

Agreed. See above.

That they are oblivious to their child's psychological suffering..

They are unlikely to be. See above.

... and completely unapproachable for a child to ask for support on such serious issues..

I'm not the one suggesting the parents are completely unapproachable at all. I'm saying that someone has likely led the child to believe this.

is their doing not the school, activists or social media or anyone else they want to point the finger at for not developing a trusting communicative relationship let alone being committed enough to notice serious changes in their child's behaviour.

DARVO! ✅ I needed that one for my bingo card. I'm not sure I've ever experienced it myself so directly on a thread. It was an interesting experience. Thank you 🙏

Stop infantilising & making excuses for people who abdicate their responsibilities as parents to burden society with them.

Oh! There's more. Thank you! 😊

And just so you know, it's not teachers responsibility to play private life snitch because of parental incompetency but educate children particularly when they might be putting their students well being at stake should the parents become abusive

Teachers are at the front line of child safeguarding. It is very much their responsibility to report issues of concern about children's parents.
(Obviously what they're not meant to do is assume that parents are harming children if they raise concerns about them becoming gender questioning).

LGBTQ minors are one of the highest risk categories of homelessness

What is an LGBTQ minor? The LGB bit I get. The T... I assume you mean gender questioning. If so, see above. The Q?

that's usually a result of parental rejection

Parental rejection or alienation from parents, following coercion to believe that their parents are harmful to them? Muddling up LGB with TQ is particularly unhelpful here. Yes, there will be some homophobic parents but it's almost impossible to spot those if LGB gets bundled up with TQ issues.

So if its safe guarding you care about you might want to shine the spotlight more on unfit parenting that the rest of society always seem to get stuck cleaning up after.

Sadly, there will always be unfit parents. Thankfully, we have safeguarding laws and protocols to help identify and address this. Also sadly, some of those responsible for doing so have ended up with a safeguarding approach that is upside down. Where they fail to spot that the parent is not the risk here, but instead it's the school and the LGBTQ activism within it.

Too late for the edit button...

That last paragraph should really have been the TQ activism. LGB activism has been kidnapped by the TQ gang. Unfortunately, some brilliant and respected LGB activists seem to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and haven't noticed what's going on.

Although, arguably school isn't really the place for LGB activism, even without the TQ+ folks. It's has a political agenda, which is something that is not allowed in schools. Even though I support gay rights, and many other good causes, I do not want my children being politicised in school (by school staff).

HelenaWaiting · 05/12/2025 10:13

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 08:27

As they also pay for the health care of people's poor health choices. See where this bogus logic goes?

Edited

At least you're admitting that "gender affirming care" is, like the results of people's poor health choices, questionable use of taxpayers' money. However, treatment of people who have contributed to their own poor health at least has a chance of working, whereas attempts to change a person's sex must always fail.

CatMarble · 05/12/2025 11:39

On the topic of social contagion, I'm currently reading "Crazy like us: the globalization of the Western mind". It discussed the very interesting interplay between culture and mental health, touching anorexia, PTSD and schizophrenia. The part on anorexia and social contagion is chilling.

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 13:00

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 09:14

If this poster is actually a teacher, they are posting during morning registration. 🤔

Edited

Yeah I was. I'm on mat leave so nothing better to do tbh. I bet none of you are teachers?

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 13:01

BlueLegume · 05/12/2025 08:35

Let’s leave @Howseitgoin and @MarymaryquiteC to continue their absolute lack of understanding of what is going on in society. Social contagion of trans ideology hopefully will start to wane.

Yes these children need help. They do not need medication to block a perfectly natural part of life - puberty. They do not need to be told amputation of healthy body parts will make them happy. they need better help to understand growing up can be difficult but it makes you the adult who can have a good life knowing there will be ups and downs. Affirming children into believing being a different sex will make life better is simply abuse.

😂😂😂😂

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 13:03

BlueLegume · 05/12/2025 09:19

Well said @selffellatingouroborosofhate they are also suggesting promoting an ideology which is harmful to some children which goes against safeguarding rules. This from Mia Hughes is powerful…….

@_CryMiaRiver
Karen Carpenter's tragic battle triggered a social contagion of anorexia;
Princess Diana's public struggle with bulimia had the same effect.
The book Sybil kicked off the multiple personality disorder epidemic in the 80s. Running parallel to that was the Satanic Panic, set off by the book Michelle Remembers. As a result, thousands of lives were destroyed.
As cutting started to appear in movies and TV shows, the number of teens self-harming increased, and when TikTok influencers with Tourette's launched to fame, adolescent girls began experiencing TikTok tics.
Mental illnesses are inextricably entwined with the cultural fads and whims of the era in which they arise. Our celebration of the likes of Jazz Jennings and Ellen Page captures the minds of young people, plants the dangerous idea that the discomfort and anguish of puberty can be miraculously solved with drugs and surgeries, sending many down the same devastating path to destruction.
Children and adolescents no more need trans role models than they do anorexic or bulimic role models. Every time we celebrate a celebrity coming out as trans, we sacrifice countless young people to the horror of this medical atrocity.

Where did I suggest the promotion of an ideology that wasn't completely sarcastic? 🙄

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 13:04

BlueLegume · 05/12/2025 09:19

Well said @selffellatingouroborosofhate they are also suggesting promoting an ideology which is harmful to some children which goes against safeguarding rules. This from Mia Hughes is powerful…….

@_CryMiaRiver
Karen Carpenter's tragic battle triggered a social contagion of anorexia;
Princess Diana's public struggle with bulimia had the same effect.
The book Sybil kicked off the multiple personality disorder epidemic in the 80s. Running parallel to that was the Satanic Panic, set off by the book Michelle Remembers. As a result, thousands of lives were destroyed.
As cutting started to appear in movies and TV shows, the number of teens self-harming increased, and when TikTok influencers with Tourette's launched to fame, adolescent girls began experiencing TikTok tics.
Mental illnesses are inextricably entwined with the cultural fads and whims of the era in which they arise. Our celebration of the likes of Jazz Jennings and Ellen Page captures the minds of young people, plants the dangerous idea that the discomfort and anguish of puberty can be miraculously solved with drugs and surgeries, sending many down the same devastating path to destruction.
Children and adolescents no more need trans role models than they do anorexic or bulimic role models. Every time we celebrate a celebrity coming out as trans, we sacrifice countless young people to the horror of this medical atrocity.

I agree with much of this actually, except for the ridiculous notion that teachers are pushing ideologies.

FrippEnos · 05/12/2025 16:19

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 13:04

I agree with much of this actually, except for the ridiculous notion that teachers are pushing ideologies.

Some teachers are pushing this ideology, and they are doing it with the blessing of headteachers.

I know this because I was a teacher and saw it happen.

I have seen the whole school PHSE lessons about gender with the gingerbread man and the unicorn.

I have even seen the LGB groups change in to LGBTQ+ groups taking the LGB kids with them, all whilst having to do the stonewall/allsorts/mermaids inset training.

Yes there has been a push back but you would be a fool to think that it has gone away.

IwantToRetire · 05/12/2025 17:51

The problem with these very obvious disrupters is not only to make threads really, really boring, but also to dumb down the discussion.

So its all yah, boo, sucks or trapping some in to reply to very basic questioning of the sex based rights position.

Which has a second negative impact along with the boredom.

Stopping us all from moving forward from the basics which should be one of the main attractions of FWR.

But no, we all have to endure Groundhog Day over and over again.

OP posts:
WarriorN · 05/12/2025 19:05

RunsWithDinosaurs · 05/12/2025 08:42

For the love of Mike can we stop lumping in LGB with the T?!

And secondly it’s not an impression that LGB are subject to bullying. If not we wouldn’t see so many young lesbians trying to trans away the gay and take on male identities to make the same sex attraction more acceptable.

I’m using the language KCSiE used prior to 2024 to make my point

WarriorN · 05/12/2025 19:05

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 13:00

Yeah I was. I'm on mat leave so nothing better to do tbh. I bet none of you are teachers?

I am

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