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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The schools still supporting trans ideology behind parents’ backs

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IwantToRetire · 04/12/2025 19:41

Published within the space of 12 months, the Cass Review and the Supreme Court gender ruling were hailed as fundamental shifts away from the trans ideology that has captured just about every area of British public life.

In schools, however, it has been a different story. According to whistleblowing parents, governors and staff, a pro-trans rearguard action is under way, with activists in schools, local authorities, unions, sex-education groups, charities and other external bodies determined to ensure schools stay “gender affirming”, teaching children they can change sex.

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/12/04/schools-trans-ideology-children-parents/

And at https://archive.is/sEOb9

(I think most on FWR are aware of this, so posting as much to say even if only the Telegraph it isn't that people aren't aware. More shame on the Government for not getting on with enforcing the Supreme Court ruling.)

The schools still supporting trans ideology behind parents’ backs
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Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 04:10

In terms of 'safe guarding', a parent that has literally 'no idea' their child is struggling with their identity AND that their child fears them knowing seems a red flag regarding their competency as a parent.

But never fear, the nanny state is here to take on their parental responsibilities for them…

ACynicalDad · 05/12/2025 04:30

I wonder if a judicial review would speed up publication and if JKR is up for funding another.

deadpan · 05/12/2025 04:45

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 04:10

In terms of 'safe guarding', a parent that has literally 'no idea' their child is struggling with their identity AND that their child fears them knowing seems a red flag regarding their competency as a parent.

But never fear, the nanny state is here to take on their parental responsibilities for them…

No show without Punch

Justme56 · 05/12/2025 04:57

Teachers who keep secrets about children from their parents is a massive red flag. When I was at school the head of house was found to be having a relationship with a 14 year old girl. Pretty sure the parents were clueless on that too!

hholiday · 05/12/2025 06:02

Schools who have these damaging, secretive policies need a leadership change. It’s that simple. Sadly, probably not under this government.

BonfireLady · 05/12/2025 06:33

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 04:10

In terms of 'safe guarding', a parent that has literally 'no idea' their child is struggling with their identity AND that their child fears them knowing seems a red flag regarding their competency as a parent.

But never fear, the nanny state is here to take on their parental responsibilities for them…

their child fears them knowing

Many schools are telling children that anyone who doesn't "respect someone's identity" is "unkind".

If a child starts to wonder if they might be the opposite sex because they have a "gender identity" that apparently aligns with the opposite sex, or perhaps that they have no sex at all (because they have a "non-binary identity" that doesn't apparently align with either sex), they'll be influenced by this messaging. They'll have internalised the idea that anyone who doesn't unquestioningly support their understanding of their own "identity" is a risk to them. Obviously that could include their parents.

a parent that has literally 'no idea' their child is struggling with their identity

Teenagers keep lots of things from their parents. Not always, obviously. But it's quite normal for teens to tell their friends things because they believe their parents will want to stop them. A young teen (e.g. 13 or 14) having sex, vaping/smoking or taking drugs is far more likely to be open about this with their friends but hide it from their parents.

In the case of transgender identity, parents may well want to stop them from socially transitioning. That's because it's not a neutral act and anyone who does it can find themselves locked in to sense of self where the only possible way forward is eventually to alter the body (e.g. cross-sex hormones) to "align" with this. What is far likely to have been better is to not socially transition but instead to explore neutrally why the child doesn't feel their body is right for them.

But never fear, the nanny state is here to take on their parental responsibilities for them…

Are you saying that it's a good idea to listen to parents' concerns, rather than a) dismiss them and b) seek to take over parental responsibility from them? If so, I agree.

Presumably you'd also then agree that it's a red flag (against the school, not the parent) if a school is suggesting to children that their parents might be a risk to them if their parents don't affirm their new identity?

WarriorN · 05/12/2025 07:01

Excellent article

WarriorN · 05/12/2025 07:05

Unfortunately some of the previous kcsie’s have given teachers the impression that “LGBT children “ are more precious and prone to bullying than non LGBT children. The EA alongside activist orgs creating educational content have further fanned these flames

it’s created a culture in schools whereby teachers think they know better than the parents.

I’ve seen it in relation to other things in schools and now I have my own children I do challenge it.

WarriorN · 05/12/2025 07:12

We need multi discliplinary cultures that put the parents AND the child at the centre of all that happens. Because the two are inexplicably linked.

unfortunately, also, safeguarding training often focusses on awful case reviews where parents have abused children in terrible ways. Staff have to keep those concepts in their minds. Of course it also covers staff who have been convicted too. I think this is how staff such as Stephen Flagherty found themselves at the brunt of the safeguarding rules that they were trying to point out weren’t being followed.

I DO want a nanny state for this particular area of safeguarding. And it’s not happening. Safeguarding does need to be authoritarian, but it also needs to be reflective as, as we’ve seen, it can end up creating the issues it’s trying to address.

WarriorN · 05/12/2025 07:13

It’s not a nanny state though, it’s evidence based common sense

TeenToTwenties · 05/12/2025 07:18

If a family hasn't been flagged as a safeguarding risk prior to a child becoming gender questioning, then I see no reason for a school to take the view they will be a safeguarding risk over this either.

(I'm so glad my DC got through school before all of this, my eldest in particular could have been susceptible. When she started secondary I was asking about how they handled anorexia and teen pregnancies, when DD2 started I was asking re handling of self harm.)

HelenaWaiting · 05/12/2025 07:20

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 04:10

In terms of 'safe guarding', a parent that has literally 'no idea' their child is struggling with their identity AND that their child fears them knowing seems a red flag regarding their competency as a parent.

But never fear, the nanny state is here to take on their parental responsibilities for them…

The "nanny state" is still paying for gender affirming care - hormone treatment and surgery. There are times when the appropriate course of action is to wind yer neck in.

FrippEnos · 05/12/2025 07:23

Given that many headteachers seem to believe that the law doesn't apply to them and their own little kingdoms.
This doesn't surprise me in the least.

BlueLegume · 05/12/2025 07:31

Word to the wise @Howseitgoin is a regular thread disrupter. Best not to engage.

attichoarder · 05/12/2025 07:40

Appalling behaviour by schools, I know this goes on locally in my area.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 05/12/2025 07:46

I can also atttest to one school at least being missing from this list - patient zero in Brighton.

Owly11 · 05/12/2025 07:49

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 04:10

In terms of 'safe guarding', a parent that has literally 'no idea' their child is struggling with their identity AND that their child fears them knowing seems a red flag regarding their competency as a parent.

But never fear, the nanny state is here to take on their parental responsibilities for them…

Interesting that you blame the parents for not knowing what the school is deliberately not telling them. It's a classic tactic of abusers and groomers to deflect attention away from the abuser and blame the victim.

BlueLegume · 05/12/2025 07:52

Against my own advice about engaging with a disrupter but hey @Howseitgoin kids are in school for most of the day and are exposed to staff who promote trans ideology. Library displays explains how many genders/pronouns there are. That is wrong. Safeguarding should be paramount. No one can change their sex. That is the only message children need. Support for any confusion but the message is easy.

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 08:22

Are you even a parent?

That a child believes they are the opposite sex isn't any where near the same as concealing vaping, drugs or sex. That you would consider such a serious psychological disposition as completely unnoticeable makes me question your ability to parse the bleedin' obvious.

The parents should be able to at least detect something is up. That they are oblivious to their child's psychological suffering AND completely unapproachable for a child to ask for support on such serious issues is their doing not the school, activists or social media or anyone else they want to point the finger at for not developing a trusting communicative relationship let alone being committed enough to notice serious changes in their child's behaviour.

Stop infantilising & making excuses for people who abdicate their responsibilities as parents to burden society with them.

And just so you know, it's not teachers responsibility to play private life snitch because of parental incompetency but educate children particularly when they might be putting their students well being at stake should the parents become abusive. LGBTQ minors are one of the highest risk categories of homelessness that's usually a result of parental rejection. So if its safe guarding you care about you might want to shine the spotlight more on unfit parenting that the rest of society always seem to get stuck cleaning up after.

Howseitgoin · 05/12/2025 08:27

HelenaWaiting · 05/12/2025 07:20

The "nanny state" is still paying for gender affirming care - hormone treatment and surgery. There are times when the appropriate course of action is to wind yer neck in.

As they also pay for the health care of people's poor health choices. See where this bogus logic goes?

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:28

Those sneaky teachers with all this time on their hands, running around the halls whispering trans ideology in kids ears, it's just got to stop.

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:29

Owly11 · 05/12/2025 07:49

Interesting that you blame the parents for not knowing what the school is deliberately not telling them. It's a classic tactic of abusers and groomers to deflect attention away from the abuser and blame the victim.

So schools are grooming kids now are they? 😂😂😂

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:30

attichoarder · 05/12/2025 07:40

Appalling behaviour by schools, I know this goes on locally in my area.

Not just locally but in your area as well, I'll be damned.

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:30

WarriorN · 05/12/2025 07:13

It’s not a nanny state though, it’s evidence based common sense

That's the best oxymoron I've heard all week!

Owly11 · 05/12/2025 08:31

MarymaryquiteC · 05/12/2025 08:29

So schools are grooming kids now are they? 😂😂😂

Yes.