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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

HW getting cancelled by the trans community

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Greyskybluesky · 27/11/2025 16:31

HW has posted on r/transgenderuk.
This past few weeks I’ve been in studios from Liverpool, to London, to Washington DC, using my voice to stand up for the trans community. What a whirlwind trip!

But the TRAs are NOT happy.

Helen, please. We know you probably mean well, but you DO NOT have the rhetorical or tactical skill to do this. You're damaging the cause you claim to be championing.

You have thoroughly embarrassed us with your performance.
It has been excruciating to listen to.

What the fuck, this is horrific. You've just gone and fed the fascist media machine the exact meat it was craving and it is running with it all the way to Timbuktu.

I'm not sure this has gone the way she hoped.

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 28/11/2025 09:39

The whole 'all provision should be based solely on what we say we want and need with no other voices allowed' is the narcissim talking.

The absolute inability to see women as people with inner lives of their own, or any function beyond service, is the narcissism again with both fantastic immaturity (mummy lives for baby, she has no existence beyond baby) combined with misogyny talking. Mummy has no life but baby, women have no living purpose or existence other than in their use to men. Therefore their little minds go blank and they stop functioning when not doing something relevant and useful to men.

Hence this peculiar belief that if a woman does something she says is about a need or problem she has, she's obviously doing it solely to piss off men. Because what else would possibly be going on between her ears that does not revolve around men?

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 28/11/2025 09:43

GreenFriedTomato · 27/11/2025 23:29

The one with Helen Joyce and Fred in fishnet tights? That really was quite something. It apparently included indecent exposure, but I watched it on a very small screen and thankfully missed that

That Peter Tatchell is the ‘respectable face’ of this movement tells all.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 28/11/2025 09:47

ExtraordinaryMachine1 · 28/11/2025 06:53

Golly, that reddit thread is really interesting! My favourite comment was something along the lines of "cis people shouldn't be speaking for trans people" but I couldn't find the comment when I looked again. So near, and yet so far.

I assumed Reddit would be very pleased with her, because she was espousing all their usual arguments. But on reflection, I wonder if I thought that because I'm viewing it as - horror of horrors - a midde-aged mum. Of the parents I know who have followed/led their kids into the rabbit hole, I think they'd be reassured to hear a medical doctor - letters after her name and everything - reissue the same lines. See, it must all be true, a doctor said so! I would imagine that a very large part of being a GP involves reassuring anxious mums. Certainly in the Andrew Gold interview (not sure I can face any more of her bilge), it seemed like that was the look she was going for - trust me, I'm a doctor. Which doesn't wash with Reddit, because (by and large) they're not the right demographic to be persuaded by that.

Anyway, fascinating stuff - thanks for highlighting it OP.

I think it’s more that she is saying it ‘as a middle aged mum’.

It’s like the adults using da yoof speak. Cringe.

Suddenly the fashionable nonsense is exposed for the contentless drivel it actually is. Innit.

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 28/11/2025 09:55

next week’s episode:

Helen Webberly comes out as Nonbinary (in a desperate attempt to silence critics calling her a crap ‘cis ally’).
Ze can tag Susie Green in a TikTok to ask for advice on blue hair dye and big plastic spectacles.

Datun · 28/11/2025 11:02

That Reddit thread is comedy gold.

Helen, you're not media trained, you're making us look unhinged. You should go on and say A, B and C. (The exact arguments she used).

Although the man telling her off for not demanding proof that you can't change sex was in a league of his own 🤣

PrettyDamnCosmic · 28/11/2025 11:12

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2025 20:48

One of the Reddit mods has posted

"Some of the more toxic transphobes are lurking this post and posting screenshots on Twitter, be aware."

just wait til they realise Mumsnet are lurking as well!

I lurk on Reddit but now I am unable to post as I got a permanent ban for posting a link to Ben Cooper’s article explaining that after FWS trans identifying people had lost no rights & were still protected against discrimination & harassment.

Greyskybluesky · 28/11/2025 11:23

Who is that fairly sensible recent poster at the end?
I'm C&Ping the comment here for when it gets deleted on there.

I think conceding the point that men are incredibly dangerous to women would help. Since one of us dies every 18 minutes.
So, what would natal women need, in order to feel safe with a transwoman? In the 80’s, only transwomen who were clearly committed to medical transition dared use the Ladies, and we turned a blind eye to it. We felt safe with them.
Unfortunately, there are hundreds of examples of perverts tagging on the back of the movement. How do you separate yourselves from them?
Everyone knows what trans folk desire - inclusion with the opposite sex and not to be reminded of their past sex. Women are saying they want safeguarding.
If you work the problem, you may find a solution for both sides, which would then expose who is truly transphobic and who is just afraid. That won’t come from simply saying “it’s only a few extra r*pes”.

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JamieCannister · 28/11/2025 11:28

Greyskybluesky · 28/11/2025 11:23

Who is that fairly sensible recent poster at the end?
I'm C&Ping the comment here for when it gets deleted on there.

I think conceding the point that men are incredibly dangerous to women would help. Since one of us dies every 18 minutes.
So, what would natal women need, in order to feel safe with a transwoman? In the 80’s, only transwomen who were clearly committed to medical transition dared use the Ladies, and we turned a blind eye to it. We felt safe with them.
Unfortunately, there are hundreds of examples of perverts tagging on the back of the movement. How do you separate yourselves from them?
Everyone knows what trans folk desire - inclusion with the opposite sex and not to be reminded of their past sex. Women are saying they want safeguarding.
If you work the problem, you may find a solution for both sides, which would then expose who is truly transphobic and who is just afraid. That won’t come from simply saying “it’s only a few extra r*pes”.

I would not be at all surprised to see that poster perma-banned for transphobia.

She should have been a little clearer "Unfortunately, there are hundreds of examples of perverts tagging on the back of the movement. How do you separate yourselves from them when so many of you have paraphilias, and being a man who enters women's spaces makes you look 100% like a pervert even as you claim you're not?

Greyskybluesky · 28/11/2025 13:06

JKRismyPatronus · 28/11/2025 12:57

I think this is the video of Helen and her ra-ra skirts.

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1990822306650730628

Oh god, that's funny! 😆

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OhYesWeAre · 28/11/2025 13:23

JKRismyPatronus · 28/11/2025 12:57

I think this is the video of Helen and her ra-ra skirts.

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1990822306650730628

OMG that is hilarious 😄 So many skirts that go spinny!

A wtf was that random pair of lacey black knickers included for? 🤔 I reckon she was playing right at the fetish end of TIMs.

WallaceinAnderland · 28/11/2025 13:36

I would not be at all surprised to see that poster perma-banned for transphobia.

One reddit poster explains why he is sometimes suspicious of another's intentions

"Please understand that there's been, there are, numerous bad actors on here, wolves in sheeps clothing, pretending to be one of us and/or pretending to act on our behalf but actually here to be incredibly manipulative."

Can they really not see the irony?

junipery · 28/11/2025 13:42

That video is really unsettling. She hates women so much.

Lookwhosintown · 28/11/2025 13:46

Boiledbeetle · 27/11/2025 17:16

I wonder if she'll delete the thread when she sees them calling her out?

👀 🍿

EmpressaurusKitty · 28/11/2025 13:47

JamieCannister · 28/11/2025 11:28

I would not be at all surprised to see that poster perma-banned for transphobia.

She should have been a little clearer "Unfortunately, there are hundreds of examples of perverts tagging on the back of the movement. How do you separate yourselves from them when so many of you have paraphilias, and being a man who enters women's spaces makes you look 100% like a pervert even as you claim you're not?

I’m surprised that comment’s still up. The only response to it so far is objecting to using transwoman instead of trans woman. Apparently it’s the equivalent of ‘blondewoman’ which is a new one.

Lookwhosintown · 28/11/2025 13:59

JKRismyPatronus · 28/11/2025 12:57

I think this is the video of Helen and her ra-ra skirts.

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1990822306650730628

I need a long walk in the freezing rain after watching that to cool my temper. She's so messianic - "not to wound you, but to spare others the blade of your entitlement" -

on second thoughts I am going to look in the mirror and practice saying "you talking to me?" like Robert De Niro in taxi driver. I haven't got a ra-ra skirt myself but it's what's inside that counts, so I shall celebrate my marvellous single ovary and my expired womb with vicious pride as I prepare to enter a door that other people aren't allowed through.

KnottyAuty · 28/11/2025 14:01

Greyskybluesky · 27/11/2025 16:38

Ha ha, she really is the Gerald Ratner of GI!

(I think someone already made that joke, apologies for not crediting them)

"The Gerald Ratner of GI"

That deserves to be said again! Spot on!

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 28/11/2025 14:07

EmpressaurusKitty · 28/11/2025 13:47

I’m surprised that comment’s still up. The only response to it so far is objecting to using transwoman instead of trans woman. Apparently it’s the equivalent of ‘blondewoman’ which is a new one.

They've finally realised that comparing it to "blackwoman" really isn't helping their cause.

Mapletree1985 · 28/11/2025 14:19

junipery · 27/11/2025 17:25

Genuine question - who do they think on their side comes across well in the media? They seem to think that if they just had a good communicator it would make all the difference, ok HW comes across as a bit mad but she basically espouses a lot of TRA points, so what would another person say that would make an impact?

I was wondering the same thing. It's not the communicator who sounds insane, it's the message they're communicating. Changing the communicator won't change the insanity of the message.

Datun · 28/11/2025 14:29

JKRismyPatronus · 28/11/2025 12:57

I think this is the video of Helen and her ra-ra skirts.

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1990822306650730628

Oh dear God. That's the first time I've seen that video.

She's off her bloody rocker.

Why the fuck does she hate women so bloody much??

More than anything else, that's really freaked me out. Folding laundry, all very carefully choreographed to coincide with what she's saying. Right down to black lacy pants?? Apart from anything else, you wouldn't put your black delicates in that wash.

I think she genuinely believes that's a mic drop moment. It's a fucking padded cell moment luv.

God Almighty. No wonder trans Reddit is losing their shit.

Datun · 28/11/2025 14:32

I've just had another quick look. And the shock is turning into snorting.

What the fuck is the soft black triangle that no one zooms in on?

And why are my hips privileged??

EmpressaurusKitty · 28/11/2025 14:38

Datun · 28/11/2025 14:32

I've just had another quick look. And the shock is turning into snorting.

What the fuck is the soft black triangle that no one zooms in on?

And why are my hips privileged??

Your hips in particular?

Mistyglade · 28/11/2025 14:40

I’m not one to for schadenfreude as a rule but fuck me this is funny and well deserved for the daft cunt.

Datun · 28/11/2025 14:43

EmpressaurusKitty · 28/11/2025 14:38

Your hips in particular?

Well apparently my waist, ovaries, womb, birth canal and lips as well.

She fairly spits it out. Venomous about it all.

And I don't know why but my hips were the ones that got to me 😁

No wonder she doesn't tend to speak to anyone. Bloody Nora. That was... I have no words (which is almost unheard of).