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Man who transitioned to female sues expert for discrimination after being told breastfeeding was delusional

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IwantToRetire · 11/11/2025 18:58

A transgender mother who underwent medical treatment to breastfeed her newborn son is suing a breastfeeding expert who publicly dismissed her experience as a 'delusional queer theory take'.

Former Australian Breastfeeding Association volunteer counsellor Jasmine Sussex will face a Queensland tribunal next year over claims she discriminated against Brisbane transgender woman Jennifer Adrian Buckley.

The tribunal will decide if Ms Buckley was discriminated against under the Queensland Anti-Discrimination Act over a series of social media posts by Ms Sussex.

Article continues at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15274697/Jennifer-Buckley-Jasmine-Sussex-transgender-breastfeeding.html

NB Use of propouns at those in the article. So any complaints should go straight to the DM!

Mum in legal battle after expert's online comments about breastfeeding

'Mothers and babies deserve better than this', the breastfeeding expert said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15274697/Jennifer-Buckley-Jasmine-Sussex-transgender-breastfeeding.html

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Helleofabore · 11/11/2025 22:26

Teathecolourofcreosote · 11/11/2025 22:24

You are not confused. You are sane.

The usual approach is that nothing is safe for pregnant or breastfeeding women because it cannot be adequately tested.

You can't use bonjella for a mouth ulcer or drink a glass of wine but this is fine.

You can't make it make sense because it doesn't.

Edited

It really doesn’t show any symmetry at all with how mothers are advised about interactions and what to avoid.

Helleofabore · 11/11/2025 22:32

This may need a content warning, so be warned this link show males talking about the amazing electric charge they get from infants feeding from their nipples amongst other things.

https://www.them.us/story/trans-women-breastfeed

This is an illuminating read and shows insight into the motivations for these male people who seek to do this.

What is very clear, is that this is NEVER about the child. This is never child centred. This is all about the male person's demands being met.

Yes, Trans Women Can Breastfeed — Here's How

Three trans women share their personal experiences with inducing lactation and breastfeeding.

https://www.them.us/story/trans-women-breastfeed

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 11/11/2025 22:40

BundleBoogie · 11/11/2025 20:38

This is where I almost wish for a group of moderate trans people to get together and challenge these self indulgent individualists, and say not in my name.

Do we believe that they exist though? They’ve had plenty of years and opportunities to put their case forward.

I do think they exist, but their existence is already complicated enough so it’s sort of understandable that they don’t want to invite the delulu mob wrath, really.

Personally I don’t think trans women were ever an issue until this recent turn that somehow decided to dictate trans women=bio women, which is just… not true.

littlbrowndog · 11/11/2025 22:42

Just depravity that’s all it is

and as for midwives doctors and hospitals who allow this are all complicit in this depravity
🤮🤮🤮

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2025 22:44

Helleofabore · 11/11/2025 21:45

Sadly the UK services wouldn’t either.

Remember this?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5010993-trans-women-feeding-chemical-ridden-milk-to-babies-approved-by-nhs?page=1

And I believe that when reporting this, the BBC got a gender studies professor to come on as an ‘expert’ and affirm that the milk was just like the mother’s milk. That was the BBC’s idea of expertise and a balanced article.

She actually said it was better, completely unchallenged by the BBC presenter.

Helleofabore · 11/11/2025 22:46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2025 22:44

She actually said it was better, completely unchallenged by the BBC presenter.

😔

Dollymylove · 11/11/2025 22:49

Why is this child not being safeguarded against being force fed a cocktail of drugs?
Imagine if a heroine addicted woman was breastfeeding her baby? Social services would be on it like a dog with a bone

Tiredofwhataboutery · 11/11/2025 22:56

Dollymylove · 11/11/2025 22:49

Why is this child not being safeguarded against being force fed a cocktail of drugs?
Imagine if a heroine addicted woman was breastfeeding her baby? Social services would be on it like a dog with a bone

I think where trans are involved the presumption is 👍 unless there is evidence of harm. It’s strange as normally the other way round thst stuff is best avoided unless benefits outweigh risks for baby but special feelings Trump everything.

BellissimoGecko · 11/11/2025 22:57

Christ. So the man was able to produce 40ml of ‘milk’ a day?? When a baby needs about 800ml? Pointless.

And it’s all vile. Men can’t breastfeed with their medication-induced secretions. Australia needs to cop on to that.

BundleBoogie · 11/11/2025 22:58

Tiredofwhataboutery · 11/11/2025 22:56

I think where trans are involved the presumption is 👍 unless there is evidence of harm. It’s strange as normally the other way round thst stuff is best avoided unless benefits outweigh risks for baby but special feelings Trump everything.

Sadly, in many cases, evidence of harm isn’t enough to stop the behaviour.

BundleBoogie · 11/11/2025 23:00

littlbrowndog · 11/11/2025 22:42

Just depravity that’s all it is

and as for midwives doctors and hospitals who allow this are all complicit in this depravity
🤮🤮🤮

Until recently it has not been permitted to use this word, appropriate though it is.

176509user · 11/11/2025 23:02

Assume this man also gave birth to the baby ???

Because if he was really a woman he’d have been able to !!

But, no, he’s a bloke who wants to breast feed non the less !! 🤣🤣
Laughable isn’t it !

LeeshaPaper · 11/11/2025 23:03

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 11/11/2025 19:55

And yet women are blasted for daring to have a glass of wine or a cup of coffee while breastfeeding. Fucking hell.

I was told not to use EYE DROPS (for hay fever relief) while pregnant.
Meanwhile this guy is feeding the baby a disgusting cocktail of medication induced liquid. It makes me feel ill.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 11/11/2025 23:04

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 11/11/2025 22:40

I do think they exist, but their existence is already complicated enough so it’s sort of understandable that they don’t want to invite the delulu mob wrath, really.

Personally I don’t think trans women were ever an issue until this recent turn that somehow decided to dictate trans women=bio women, which is just… not true.

I think the more moderate are labelled trutrans / truscum and vilified within their own community. I suspect there’s a degree of keeping head down and getting on with life. It sort of reminds me of an abusive relationship where you can’t disagree with anything or they will turn on you. Then even when it gets increasingly outlandish you just go along with it.

176509user · 11/11/2025 23:08

Makes you wonder what this discharge from his nipple actually is !
Poor baby being offered that for a feed !🥲

SL2924 · 11/11/2025 23:09

I don’t know why this is not considered child abuse. Absolutely awful.

GallantKumquat · 11/11/2025 23:18

BundleBoogie · 11/11/2025 23:00

Until recently it has not been permitted to use this word, appropriate though it is.

I would add that in my previous post, I didn't use it without consideration. I don't consider GI inherently depraved. I don't even consider transwomen who transition as a result of agp to be depraved if their public presentation is within the bounds of decency - those individuals have a right to their own internal life and personal expression, even if I find it incomprehensible or unsettling.

The act of TIMs simulating breast feeding for their own obviously erotic tinged gratification utilizing new born infants IMO reaches the threshold of depravity. It's something that society must not tolerate. I understand if my post is deleted, but I would hope that it is because it's determined that the word must not be used in any circumstances here and not because it was used incorrectly.

Waitingfordoggo · 11/11/2025 23:18

Re moderate/sensible transwomen- I’m pretty sure someone like Blaire White would publicly call out the depravity of this. Blaire has quite a big following and often calls out the worst of the AGP behaviour. Blaire is pretty right wing I think, but certainly sees the problem with the AGPs. I think Blaire is attracted to men, ie homosexual, so objects to straight men LARPing at womanhood for kicks.

BluntPlumHam · 11/11/2025 23:19

I am new to this area, i genuinely didn’t realise that this was an actual thing … I am utterly lost for words. Women, our bodies are so heavily regulated when it comes to giving birth. Gosh try getting an elective c section or beg for some breastfeeding advice if you’re lucky. Here, someone has been provided with a cocktail of drugs and all the support in the world to satisfy their own urges at the expense of an innocent child? It’s gone too far.

user2848502016 · 11/11/2025 23:20

Helleofabore · 11/11/2025 19:20

http://archive.today/ekhDf

The archive link to one of the original articles about Buckley.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10859287/Transgender-paramedic-breastfed-newborn-baby-know-like-mum.html

A transgender mother who was born male has described how 'breastfeeding' her baby an hour after her wife gave birth to the boy helped affirm her as a woman and she feels proud.
'Being a trans woman I can't carry, it's one of the limitations of it all,' Ms Buckley told Daily Mail Australia.

'To know I could breastfeed my own child and have that experience, I wanted to be a part of that. I wanted to know what it was like to be a mum and breastfeed.'

The controversial practice has been criticised by specialists as experimental and unethical but Ms Buckley believed she had the right to breastfeed her infant.
The 41-year-old would never be able to carry her own baby but began medically transitioning into a woman in 2017 after years of feeling she was female.

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'I will never know what's it like to menstruate or carry a baby or give birth,' Ms Buckley said.
'But to be told I could have the opportunity to breastfeed, it was something that was nice to be able to experience as a trans woman.'

Ms Buckley said her endocrinologist had suggested she try to produce breast milk a couple of months before her wife gave birth.

Then

'The first time it came out I just started leaking,' Ms Buckley said. 'Then I pumped and it was a weird feeling having a suction cap suck out milk, but it was exciting.

'I thought, "Oh my God, I am actually producing human milk".'

All me me me as usual! None of it is in the newborn baby’s interest.

Taking a newborn from its mother and feeding it male nipple secretions is abuse. Those first few hours are essential for establishing the mother’s breastmilk production, getting colostrum into the baby and making sure they’re hydrated so even if the “milk” he produced was safe he is still harming his baby by doing this.

CraftandGlamour · 11/11/2025 23:33

"The act of TIMs simulating breast feeding for their own obviously erotic tinged gratification utilizing new born infants IMO reaches the threshold of depravity."

A thousand times this. Utterly sickening. It is state sanctioned child abuse.

Fantomfartflinger · 11/11/2025 23:39

This is child abuse. The child may well sue when older, for health being compromised or just the abuse itself.

I sometimes look at these headlines and wonder if they are a joke. I often need to read and re read the story to understand what on earth is going on.

IwantToRetire · 12/11/2025 01:22

Another thing, in terms of medical needs is this really high on the list of patients.

Is this private health care?

Suspect that it is and as has been raised on other threads, there is evidence that private medicinet is (I was going to saying milking) exploiting self absorbed people to dole out money on non health saving measures.

Or possibly health insurance companies promising all sorts of "benefits".

Is there a trans competition web site or something where these real extremists compete against each other to not only achieve something hard to justify, and for an added bonus get the media to report it.

I wonder what it is like to be growing up as a young person, reading about things like this. Must give you a strange understanding of what the world is about.

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unwashedanddazed · 12/11/2025 02:07

Domperidone is banned in the USA because of dangerous side effects on the heart. It's also not available for children under 12 elsewhere for the same reason. It's an anti-nausea drug, which affects lactation as a side effect.

And he fed it to an hour old baby for the lady feels.

Pryceosh1987 · 12/11/2025 02:07

Its possible to do anything these days.

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