Man who transitioned to female sues expert for discrimination after being told breastfeeding was delusional

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A transgender mother who underwent medical treatment to breastfeed her newborn son is suing a breastfeeding expert who publicly dismissed her experience as a 'delusional queer theory take'.

Former Australian Breastfeeding Association volunteer counsellor Jasmine Sussex will face a Queensland tribunal next year over claims she discriminated against Brisbane transgender woman Jennifer Adrian Buckley.

The tribunal will decide if Ms Buckley was discriminated against under the Queensland Anti-Discrimination Act over a series of social media posts by Ms Sussex.

Article continues at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15274697/Jennifer-Buckley-Jasmine-Sussex-transgender-breastfeeding.html

NB Use of propouns at those in the article. So any complaints should go straight to the DM!

Link that to the appalling article (sorry, I'm not one of the amazing women here who remember and have every link, but I am positive one will know) where it was attempted to argue that getting women with trans identities to stop hormones etc during pregnancy because it would harm the baby was 'ableist' and that harmed babies with lifetime disabilities should be warmly welcomed. Or something.

The lack of morals, the lack of ability to think of and prioritise another, the issues with boundaries because they mean not being able to use another human in a wanted way for a personal experience, and the belief that if it is desired then it should be provided without shame or reproach - always stuffed under the idea of 'yay diversity' but only ever the kind of diversity that benefits gender ideology - is always a part of this.

Yeah, I was warned off suncream as it hadn't been tested on pregnant women!

Most pregnant women are fully onboard with protecting their unborn child from harm. Men with a fetish, not so much.
It's criminal that these men have been centred by so many in society - especially in the dysfunctional NHS.

This one?

https://eprints.gla.ac.uk/300608/2/300608.pdf

Sally Hines was involved.

Non-gestational mothers often induce lactation, including after adoption or surrogacy and also lesbian parents.

In the UK, the NHS does not offer the induced lactation protocol, but staff are familiar with it and able to give support to women who are receiving the protocol privately.

We planned that I would go through the protocol as a back up but would pump rather than feed, so our baby would have the benefit of her gestational mother’s superior milk, but with my milk available once my wife went back to work which she had to do at 5 months.

In the event, my wife was unable to breastfeed and after two weeks working unsuccessfully with multiple lactation consultants her milk dried up completely, so I had to take over much earlier than planned.

I’m glad we did it and on balance, after reading all the research, I think our daughter benefited from having induced breast milk from me rather than formula only.

However, I found that the breast feeding world generally was much too casual about the process. There is some evidence about the quality of milk from induced lactation (in women) and the risks to babies from the medication, but it was hard to make a scientific judgement about the overall benefit of induced, medicated milk over formula. Some HCPs also understated the risks of a protocol which is demanding and sometimes dangerous to the woman using it.

Overall I found both the NHS and private professionals I spoke to (doctors, midwives, psychologists) placed a very high value on the bonding with me of breast feeding and quite low value on the relative nutritional benefits and risks to baby of induced milk. They mostly thought it odd that I didn’t plan to breast feed until my wife had stopped, and assumed our baby would benefit roughly the same from either mother’s milk, at least after the end of my wife’s colostrum.

For me, the current level of knowledge suggests that induced lactation should only be considered as a back up when natural lactation is not possible. I would like proper research to be done comparing induced to non-induced milk at every stage for at least the first year, both quality and quantity, so that women who are considering induced lactation have all the information to make good decisions.

Proponents of male breast-feeding seem to me to start from a misunderstanding about what we know about induced lactation in women. I suspect many HCPs want to be supportive of non-gestational mothers and so overstate the evidence out of love, but at root is an institutional carelessness towards babies’ and women’s health which women should not accept even when it is dressed up as inclusion of adoptive and lesbian mothers.

The father is abusing his own child, sadly not an uncommon offence.

I am more shocked by the authorities who are supporting this. Sane adults who have a responsibility to protect children, especially those with parents who won’t protect them. Instead they are pandering to an abuser. Shameful.

Why is it that a bloke trying to force a baby to suck his (non-milk-producing) nipples for his own personal gratification (not providing nutrition for the baby) not instantly recognised as child abuse? Any substance that can be medically induced to leak from male nipples (which does happen, usually when the man has certain unfortunate illnesses) is not going to be milk and is going to be full of potentially harmful chemical residues from the drugs and no responsible parent would want to feed such a substance to their precious child. There are no milk ducts there. The child should be removed and placed with a fister carer or adoptive family who are capable of prioritising the child's wellbeing over their own self-gratification.

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Police should be checking his hard drive and smart devices.

I went to komedia at christmas
Several times while i was in there men walked into the womens as they arent labelled mens and womens but something like 8 urinals and 3 cubicals on one door and 6 cubicals on another door. One woman was upset coming out to a bloke at the sink - he said he didnt realise it was the womens (this wasnt a transwoman - just a regular bloke not understanding which loo was for men and which for women as it no longer actually says any more)

And to top it off at the end of the night two people were loudly shagging in the stall next to me which was lovely to hear in the ladies loo

Yes. it's shocking.

Agree.

If this is all okay, nothing to see here, why do we not encourage non trans identifying fathers to induce lactation in order to support the mother and support bonding between father and baby?

Good question. If it all cool, bonding, healthy, why isn't there an NHS National campaign being rolled out to get dads to step up.

Yep, what better use of paternity leave than to actually help with essential child rearing tasks. Much better than the example from a recent thread where the dad seems to be spending his paternity leave gaming and not even prepared to hold his baby to allow the mum to have a shower.

And for that matter, why aren't we inducing lactation in male cows for us all to drink? If the milk is exactly the same, the added drugs no biggie, then why not pour some of that male cow juice on our cereal? I'm sure the Dairy industry would be on board with doubling their profits... Barf.

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