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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Survey on culture in the UK - 'trans rights' questions

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ArabellaSaurus · 08/11/2025 21:12

New survey

19% of people say 'trans rights have not gone far enough' in the UK.
39% say 'trans rights have gone too far'.

That's a really big change in the past five years.

'The proportion who say transgender rights have gone too far in the UK has more than doubled since 2020, from 17% to 39%, though overall there is still no public consensus on the issue, with 19% now saying transgender rights have not gone far enough, 27% saying they’ve gone as far as they should, and a further 15% not giving an opinion.
The proportion of people who say transgender rights have gone too far has doubled among all age groups – even 16-24s, where one in five (19%) now feel this way, compared with around one in 10 (9%) in 2020. However, young people are still more likely to say transgender rights have not gone far enough (36%).'

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/uks-sense-division-reaches-new-high-culture-war-tensions-grow-study-finds

Article:

https://unherd.com/newsroom/growing-number-of-britons-think-trans-rights-have-gone-too-far/

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DeadBee · 09/11/2025 09:54

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 09:51

Because, statistically, cis men are far more likely to commit violent or sexual assault than trans women.
I know a few trans people and they are all very nice and non abusive, whereas I know plenty men who should not be allowed to leave the house unsupervised.

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Nope. Transwomen are as likely to offend as any other man.

HermioneWeasley · 09/11/2025 09:55

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 09:37

For the last 40 years I have been listening to the converation regarding trans issues. Would you feel ok if someone were allowed to show anti gay or anti non-white sentiment?
The trans community want to fit into society, but are being held back by the same people who are derisive or "pulling faces" at trans issues.

Women stating that sex is real or we shouldn’t be cutting healthy body parts of children and sterilising them is in no way equivalent to homophobia or racism, so that’s a false equivalence.

Many trans identified men are not just looking to fit in, they are looking to take over women’s things and we’ve had enough. They managed to get everything before we started to turn the tide - rapists in women’s prisons, men running rape crisis centres, men doing smear tests when the patient had requested a female nurse, participating in and winning women’s sports including gold for Olympic boxing, women’s hospital wards, women’s changing rooms. As I said before the list is endless and every single horror scenario feminists predicted when this “movement” started has come to pass.

now you want us to be kind to and feel sorry for the men who stole our stuff and aggressively pushed for the medical transition of children? Now that people are waking up to the horror show of what they’ve been doing? Absolutely not.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/11/2025 09:56

Does anyone have reliable stats on offending rates? (May be hard because of offences being reported by ‘gender’ rather than sex unfortunately).

Petitchat · 09/11/2025 09:56

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 09:45

Nobody is forcing rape victims call their abusers "she", and using this example to attack the trans community is disingenuous.
A trans woman is a woman and compairing them to rapists is why there needs to be more laws; to stop your abusive rhetoric.

There are documented legal cases where the Male rapist has been called "she"
Stating this fact is not an attack on the trans community.

Furthermore, a transwoman is a male person with a mental disorder which needs treatment.
The kindest thing is to tell them the truth.
They cannot change sex, they cannot be women. They can only pretend.

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 09:58

DeadBee · 09/11/2025 09:52

Stop equating homosexuality to trans. It’s not the same thing at all.

They are only the same when you consider they are groups who have been ostracized by society.
The difference being homosexuallity is now more accepted while trans is the new human rights issue.

ArabellaSaurus · 09/11/2025 09:59

ArabellaSaurus · 09/11/2025 09:40

What makes a transwoman a woman.

Would love an answer, Gnasher.

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Bluemin · 09/11/2025 10:00

ErrolTheDragon · 09/11/2025 09:56

Does anyone have reliable stats on offending rates? (May be hard because of offences being reported by ‘gender’ rather than sex unfortunately).

These are the figures showing the % of transwomen in prison for sexual offences compared to men and women. Not sure if there are any more up to date. I dont think so as the prison service has been recording gender identity rather than sex.

Survey on culture in the UK - 'trans rights' questions
ErrolTheDragon · 09/11/2025 10:02

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 09:58

They are only the same when you consider they are groups who have been ostracized by society.
The difference being homosexuallity is now more accepted while trans is the new human rights issue.

but it’s women who have been ‘cancelled’ and hounded out of their jobs. There have now been many court cases.

ArabellaSaurus · 09/11/2025 10:02

ErrolTheDragon · 09/11/2025 09:56

Does anyone have reliable stats on offending rates? (May be hard because of offences being reported by ‘gender’ rather than sex unfortunately).

https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2021/04/21/long-term-follow-up-of-transsexual-persons-undergoing-sex-reassignment-surgery-cohort-study-in-sweden-a-review-of-dhejne-et-als-findings-on-criminal-convictions/

An article on the Swedish study that showed that men with a trans identity retain male pattern offending rates.

‘Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden’: A review of Dhejne et al’s findings on criminal convictions - Murray Blackburn Mackenzie

Background In 2011 Dhejne et al. published a peer-reviewed academic paper setting out findings from a cohort study aimed at estimating the ‘mortality, morbidity, and criminal rate after surgical sex reassignment of transsexual persons’ (2011: 1). Using...

https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2021/04/21/long-term-follow-up-of-transsexual-persons-undergoing-sex-reassignment-surgery-cohort-study-in-sweden-a-review-of-dhejne-et-als-findings-on-criminal-convictions/

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Sammidge · 09/11/2025 10:03

You and your facts.

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:04

HermioneWeasley · 09/11/2025 09:55

Women stating that sex is real or we shouldn’t be cutting healthy body parts of children and sterilising them is in no way equivalent to homophobia or racism, so that’s a false equivalence.

Many trans identified men are not just looking to fit in, they are looking to take over women’s things and we’ve had enough. They managed to get everything before we started to turn the tide - rapists in women’s prisons, men running rape crisis centres, men doing smear tests when the patient had requested a female nurse, participating in and winning women’s sports including gold for Olympic boxing, women’s hospital wards, women’s changing rooms. As I said before the list is endless and every single horror scenario feminists predicted when this “movement” started has come to pass.

now you want us to be kind to and feel sorry for the men who stole our stuff and aggressively pushed for the medical transition of children? Now that people are waking up to the horror show of what they’ve been doing? Absolutely not.

I agree with most of what you just posted.
I do agree that in medicine we should recognise male and female biology.

Children should not be operated on for this issue, although they should be allowed to choose their own identity (although i don't think 'choose' is the right word here).
It has been shown the woman who won Olympic boxing is in fact a cis female.
A trans woman should he allowed to use a lady's changing room or toilet..
They have not 'stolen' anything from cis women, they are fighting for their right to exist.

heathspeedwell · 09/11/2025 10:04

The sad fact is that if you could share a changing room with a normal man, or a man who identifies as a woman, the transwoman is five times more likely to be a sex offender.

Over 60% of transwomen in prison have committed sex crimes. Fewer than 3% of women in prison have committed sex crimes.

We have many years of evidence to prove that men who identify as women exhibit male pattern violence as a class.

heathspeedwell · 09/11/2025 10:06

The sex offending rates of men who identify as women seem to be getting worse every year. In February 24 the government figures showed that over 70% of the transwomen in prison had convictions for rape, sexual assault and other violent crime. By December 24 the percentage of transwomen rapists in prison had gone up by a further 10%.

Petitchat · 09/11/2025 10:06

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 09:47

It is not an illness. Just like with homosexuallity, you can't 'treat' it or pray it away, like backwards people thought we could in the past.

Look up body dysmorphia please

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:07

ArabellaSaurus · 09/11/2025 09:59

Would love an answer, Gnasher.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-020-0666-3
This article discusses how men and women's brains are different, as how a trans person's brain is wired the same as there 'identity ' gender.
I'd say a woman is someone who identifies as a woman..

heathspeedwell · 09/11/2025 10:07

From the telegraph in Feb 24:
"More than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners in British jails are serving sentences for sex offences and violent crimes, government figures have revealed.
At least 181 of the 244 transgender inmates, more than 74 per cent, are in jail for crimes including rape, forcing under-age children into having sex, grievous bodily harm and robbery."

ErrolTheDragon · 09/11/2025 10:12

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:07

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-020-0666-3
This article discusses how men and women's brains are different, as how a trans person's brain is wired the same as there 'identity ' gender.
I'd say a woman is someone who identifies as a woman..

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your definition is completely meaningless.

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:12

heathspeedwell · 09/11/2025 10:07

From the telegraph in Feb 24:
"More than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners in British jails are serving sentences for sex offences and violent crimes, government figures have revealed.
At least 181 of the 244 transgender inmates, more than 74 per cent, are in jail for crimes including rape, forcing under-age children into having sex, grievous bodily harm and robbery."

When you compare those numbers to those of cis men in prison you'll see that is a very small number.
Nobody said all trans people are innocent, we are saying 'stop tarring them with the same brush as sexual preditors'.

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:14

ErrolTheDragon · 09/11/2025 10:12

your definition is completely meaningless.

So you get shown actual evidence that may disagree with you and deside it's meaningless.
This is why trans people are having to work so hard to find a place in society.

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:14

Petitchat · 09/11/2025 10:06

Look up body dysmorphia please

Look up trans articles please.

OnAShooglyPeg · 09/11/2025 10:15

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:07

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-020-0666-3
This article discusses how men and women's brains are different, as how a trans person's brain is wired the same as there 'identity ' gender.
I'd say a woman is someone who identifies as a woman..

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What does "identify as a woman" mean?

I am a woman in that I am as adult human female, who is currently being brutally reminded of her body. However, I have short hair, tend to wear baggy clothes, have never worn make up, and have interests that tend to attract more adult males. I don't identify as anything, I simply am.

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:15

heathspeedwell · 09/11/2025 10:04

The sad fact is that if you could share a changing room with a normal man, or a man who identifies as a woman, the transwoman is five times more likely to be a sex offender.

Over 60% of transwomen in prison have committed sex crimes. Fewer than 3% of women in prison have committed sex crimes.

We have many years of evidence to prove that men who identify as women exhibit male pattern violence as a class.

That is a total fabrication. Don't make up lies to justify your stance.

Bluemin · 09/11/2025 10:17

Gnasher1981 · 09/11/2025 10:07

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-020-0666-3
This article discusses how men and women's brains are different, as how a trans person's brain is wired the same as there 'identity ' gender.
I'd say a woman is someone who identifies as a woman..

Edited

If a woman is someone who identifies as a woman is a snail someone who identifies as a snail?

If I identify as a snail then I must be a snail. That means snails are middle aged women with dark hair and a propensity for eating too much chocolate.

This is your logic.

heathspeedwell · 09/11/2025 10:18

The figures have been posted on here Gnasher. You can see them for yourself. My statement is factually correct based on the government's own records.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/11/2025 10:20

Re the boxer, no one has ever said Khelif is trans. Afaik the question re male DSD hasn’t been clarified/made public yet. Obviously it’s an issue of concern to those interested in fairness in womens sports but it has nothing to do with trans rights.