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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Etsy Die Mad Terf Mugs - part of their trans inclusive line of products

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IwantToRetire · 04/11/2025 20:10

See https://www.etsy.com/listing/1858479662/die-mad-terfs-trans-inclusive-mug

I thought this must be a wind up in a Daily Express article but turns out to be true.

Other items include lawn signs reading “In this house we don’t mourn dead transphobes”

Mims Davies MP, the Shadow Women’s Minister, said: “My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

“This is appalling and, once the item is quickly removed from sale, serious questions need to be asked.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2128252/etsy-die-mad-terfs-mug-outrage

Fury as Etsy sells ‘Die Mad Terfs’ mug branded death threat

Etsy faces backlash over a £16 mug with the slogan ‘Die Mad Terfs', branded a "death threat to women" by MP demanding its removal.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2128252/etsy-die-mad-terfs-mug-outrage

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Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:32

but she is wrong about that, since transwomen are men.

So again: we can agree with the quote because it applies to women.
We can disagree with her about transwomen because that quote applies to women not men.

potpourree · 05/11/2025 08:42

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OnAShooglyPeg · 05/11/2025 08:42

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/11/2025 07:26

I believe in the laws of the market so I won’t be complaining to Etsy about this stuff

frankly if people who enjoy role playing as members of the opposite sex want to spend their money on this stuff and also tell the world that mugs with threats to kill and stab people are a-ok with them I’m all good with that

the more contact the wider world has with ‘trans’ people the better

This. Although unlike most I don't see any death threat. Yes, it refers to dying, but there's no threat and I think it's a stretch to say any is implied. I see it more as being that terfs will die before the world has seen sense again or that Stonewall law will continue.

I'm not trying to downplay that there IS a lot of trans merch that has clear death threats, and when used/shown in the context of protests and such I wonder why these aren't then classed as incitement, but that's a separate issue.

potpourree · 05/11/2025 08:43

MA perceives trans women as women

"Women" meaning "people of either sex", of course.

Namelessnelly · 05/11/2025 09:01

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/11/2025 09:04

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:32

but she is wrong about that, since transwomen are men.

So again: we can agree with the quote because it applies to women.
We can disagree with her about transwomen because that quote applies to women not men.

She doesn’t really, anyway. She’s lying about it to avoid hassle like most people do.

DrBlackbird · 05/11/2025 09:04

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/11/2025 21:59

i've done home made egg nog in previous years. very enjoyable

I’d love a recipe if you have a good one 🙏

Hoppinggreen · 05/11/2025 09:10

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:54

"What rights are transpeople being denied?"

Denial of usage of basic utilities..like bathrooms.
Denial of freedom of movement from an imposed moral panic
Denial of identity
Denial of self determination
Denial of health care
Denial of basic civilities

I could go on…

They can use the toilet for their sex
No idea what moral panic is
Nope, don't know what that even means either
Agree, I deny anyone is a woman just because they say so
In The Uk they have the same rights of access to The NHS as everyone else
Nobody is being rude to them on here

DustyWindowsills · 05/11/2025 09:13

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Brefugee · 05/11/2025 09:19

gifts of any sparkling wine, with the exception of a good sparkling chardonnay or actual champagne, are regifted in this house.
I like the idea of using it to write names in snow, though

Bluebootsgreenboots · 05/11/2025 09:26

NRFT, just looked at the image, that's enough.
So I'm wondering about the sane TERFs - are they allowed to live then? It's just the mad ones that are the problem. Right.

lcakethereforeIam · 05/11/2025 09:31

I'm sure there's a brand that's supposed to be Bailey's but better. It's in a white bottle, if I remember correctly, and it's more expensive. Can't remember the brand.

After giving it some thought, I've decided if tras want to waste their money on this they can do it. Much like the GLP. It gives them less money on stuff that's actively harmful. Like funding some poor dupes surgery. It may be, in the fullness of time, that it will actually get them arrested, their shonky 'shops' confiscated and their janky merchandise binned.

ThePoshUns · 05/11/2025 09:31

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

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I drink champagne darling.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/11/2025 09:33

ThePoshUns · 05/11/2025 09:31

I drink champagne darling.

👏🥂

RunnyBunny · 05/11/2025 09:33

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:54

"What rights are transpeople being denied?"

Denial of usage of basic utilities..like bathrooms.
Denial of freedom of movement from an imposed moral panic
Denial of identity
Denial of self determination
Denial of health care
Denial of basic civilities

I could go on…

🤣🤣🤣

Hoppinggreen · 05/11/2025 09:36

Bluebootsgreenboots · 05/11/2025 09:26

NRFT, just looked at the image, that's enough.
So I'm wondering about the sane TERFs - are they allowed to live then? It's just the mad ones that are the problem. Right.

"You don't have to be mad to be a Terf but it helps"
Line of T shirts and mugs maybe?

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 05/11/2025 09:37

ThePoshUns · 05/11/2025 09:31

I drink champagne darling.

Oh, so do I.
Prosecco is so council house.

ThePoshUns · 05/11/2025 09:38

Yes Prosecco is a poor imitation of champagne, what an appropriate analogy for this conversation.

ThePoshUns · 05/11/2025 09:40

ThePoshUns · 05/11/2025 09:38

Yes Prosecco is a poor imitation of champagne, what an appropriate analogy for this conversation.

One is cheap and chemically enhanced, the other naturally beautiful.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 05/11/2025 09:45

Hoppinggreen · 05/11/2025 09:36

"You don't have to be mad to be a Terf but it helps"
Line of T shirts and mugs maybe?

I'd put it the other way round - you don't have to be sane to be a terf, but it helps!

Hoppinggreen · 05/11/2025 09:46

Bluebootsgreenboots · 05/11/2025 09:45

I'd put it the other way round - you don't have to be sane to be a terf, but it helps!

Quite
How about "protect the Bolls (inger)" ????

LeticiaMorales · 05/11/2025 09:46

Soontobe60 · 04/11/2025 21:02

So where can I find these Prosecco glasses on ETSY?

😂😂😂

Helleofabore · 05/11/2025 09:51

ThePoshUns · 05/11/2025 09:40

One is cheap and chemically enhanced, the other naturally beautiful.

One has its second fermentation in a pressurised tank and the other in the bottle. No added chemical enhancement as such unless you add something to them in the glass.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/11/2025 09:53

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:09

did you do it in a Thermomix? I move in cheffy circles and a lot of them use a Thermomix at work for lots of things.
But everyone i know (i am not in the UK) use it to make Eierlikör (Egg nog) and not much else...

Thermomix? Do you think I’m made of money? I mean, they look awesome, but no

basically I mixed cream, beaten egg, vanilla and a bunch of booze (can’t quite remember what) and scoffed it right down

it felt a bit like the kind of thing you’d drink for a bet, but was also very delicious

Bluebootsgreenboots · 05/11/2025 09:55

@Hoppinggreen I see a business opportunity for us here. Shall we ?😂

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