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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Etsy Die Mad Terf Mugs - part of their trans inclusive line of products

323 replies

IwantToRetire · 04/11/2025 20:10

See https://www.etsy.com/listing/1858479662/die-mad-terfs-trans-inclusive-mug

I thought this must be a wind up in a Daily Express article but turns out to be true.

Other items include lawn signs reading “In this house we don’t mourn dead transphobes”

Mims Davies MP, the Shadow Women’s Minister, said: “My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

“This is appalling and, once the item is quickly removed from sale, serious questions need to be asked.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2128252/etsy-die-mad-terfs-mug-outrage

Fury as Etsy sells ‘Die Mad Terfs’ mug branded death threat

Etsy faces backlash over a £16 mug with the slogan ‘Die Mad Terfs', branded a "death threat to women" by MP demanding its removal.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2128252/etsy-die-mad-terfs-mug-outrage

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DustyWindowsills · 04/11/2025 22:43

Is Prosecco the title of an opera by Puccini? Or perhaps a mathematical variable?

I seem to recall that our nocturnal visitor once confused italics and caps, so I doubt he has thought it through.

Waitwhat23 · 04/11/2025 22:57

DustyWindowsills · 04/11/2025 22:43

Is Prosecco the title of an opera by Puccini? Or perhaps a mathematical variable?

I seem to recall that our nocturnal visitor once confused italics and caps, so I doubt he has thought it through.

Edited

Just imagining the final few bars of Nessun Dorma as Prosecco, rather than Vincero

'Prosecco!, Prosecco!
Prosecco!'

(Orchestra swells behind the singer, big bow, roses thrown etc etc)

LeftieRightsHoarder · 04/11/2025 23:06

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

Or as Margaret Atwood famously said: "Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them."

With good reason.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 04/11/2025 23:11

And this is quite weird from Etsy, which must have a largely female customer base.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 04/11/2025 23:43

Waitwhat23 · 04/11/2025 21:18

And are you still on about the prosecco? Soooo 2018. Moved onto Cremant and then small batch gins quite a while ago.

The TRA who updates the 'big book of insults against women' is really behind on his work. Tut tut.

I've never drunk prosecco in my life and I'm as TERFY as they come.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 04/11/2025 23:46

IwantToRetire · 04/11/2025 21:20

Could we please have one thread where the derailers dont get us all to cooperate with them.

Its getting pointless starting threads if so many fall everytime for the usual suspects.

Agreed. I'm totally sick of these losers ruining what could be interesting threads. Can't we just ignore them? We know the drill by now surely?

Howseitgoin · 05/11/2025 00:19

MistyGreenAndBlue · 04/11/2025 23:46

Agreed. I'm totally sick of these losers ruining what could be interesting threads. Can't we just ignore them? We know the drill by now surely?

Yup, enough with biddy blabbering about Baileys!

Jammington · 05/11/2025 00:39

That mug has a horrible big handle & the rim looks really thick.
It would be awful to hold and drink from.

The punishment for buying the vile design is having to have your brew in it.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 05/11/2025 00:43

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:54

"What rights are transpeople being denied?"

Denial of usage of basic utilities..like bathrooms.
Denial of freedom of movement from an imposed moral panic
Denial of identity
Denial of self determination
Denial of health care
Denial of basic civilities

I could go on…

Those trans people who come into my house (and yes, there are some) are perfectly at liberty to use the bathroom. They can also use the toilet.

If they limit their movement because of the moral panic transactivists spread, that's on them.

What is identity?

What is self determination, and do any of us have it?

Denial of cross-sex hormones and cosmetic surgery is not denial of care, it is limitation of self harm.

What basic civilities? Do you mean lying politely?

Namelessnelly · 05/11/2025 06:02

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:54

"What rights are transpeople being denied?"

Denial of usage of basic utilities..like bathrooms.
Denial of freedom of movement from an imposed moral panic
Denial of identity
Denial of self determination
Denial of health care
Denial of basic civilities

I could go on…

Ummm no. No ome is denying anyone use of a bathroom. There are no public bathrooms in the uk. We have them in our houses. Do you mean toilets? Again. No one is denying anyone use if a toilet. They can happily use any mixed gender toilet relevant to their sex. Who is locking transpeople up in places? They are free to go wherever they like as long as it’s not a space designated for the opposite sex. As far as I know, basic civilities isn’t a right. You seem very confused. Maybe time for a nice cup of tea and a biscuit.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/11/2025 06:45

Howseitgoin · 05/11/2025 00:19

Yup, enough with biddy blabbering about Baileys!

Edited

Biddy is both ageist and sexist. Well done.

Howseitgoin · 05/11/2025 07:21

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/11/2025 06:45

Biddy is both ageist and sexist. Well done.

And what's Ed Gein?
A little self reflection seems to be in order…

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/11/2025 07:26

I believe in the laws of the market so I won’t be complaining to Etsy about this stuff

frankly if people who enjoy role playing as members of the opposite sex want to spend their money on this stuff and also tell the world that mugs with threats to kill and stab people are a-ok with them I’m all good with that

the more contact the wider world has with ‘trans’ people the better

potpourree · 05/11/2025 07:27

The worst edition Baileys so far was probably the mint one.

Haagen-Dazs used to do Bailey's ice cream. I would've thought that'd be v popular so I wonder what happened?

Namelessnelly · 05/11/2025 07:30

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/11/2025 06:45

Biddy is both ageist and sexist. Well done.

At least he hasn’t unleashed his casual homophobia and misogyny yet. I presume that’s being saved for later.

Howseitgoin · 05/11/2025 07:38

Namelessnelly · 05/11/2025 07:30

At least he hasn’t unleashed his casual homophobia and misogyny yet. I presume that’s being saved for later.

"misogyny "

Like calling a cis woman who doesn't agree with you a 'man'?

Namelessnelly · 05/11/2025 07:39

potpourree · 05/11/2025 07:27

The worst edition Baileys so far was probably the mint one.

Haagen-Dazs used to do Bailey's ice cream. I would've thought that'd be v popular so I wonder what happened?

I do like the Aldi Baileys fake. I actually prefer it, especially in hot chocolate. Real Baileys is a bit too strong for me. I’m a lightweight.

Namelessnelly · 05/11/2025 07:41

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/11/2025 07:26

I believe in the laws of the market so I won’t be complaining to Etsy about this stuff

frankly if people who enjoy role playing as members of the opposite sex want to spend their money on this stuff and also tell the world that mugs with threats to kill and stab people are a-ok with them I’m all good with that

the more contact the wider world has with ‘trans’ people the better

Exactly. People are free to sell and buy them, but then they have to accept they will be judged for it. If I’m round a friend’s house and see that, I won’t be associating with that person again, however lovely they may have seemed. No one who supports killing another person for their beliefs is worth bothering with

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:03

Greyskybluesky · 04/11/2025 21:17

German:
Die made Terf (feminine singular)
Die maden Terfs (plural)

End of grammar lesson 😄

your licence to write any German is revoked.

Mad in German is also Mad in common parlance. See also verrückt. It is spelled without an e, and is never "pluralised" like that.
You can add an S to foreign "words" to make a plural if you like. Plural of TERF is TERFs.

So you can have:
Die mad TERF (singular)
or
Die mad TERFs (plural)

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:04

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 21:24

Could we please keep dominating threads with our echo chamber!!!!

no. Your echo chamber is tedious.

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:09

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/11/2025 21:59

i've done home made egg nog in previous years. very enjoyable

did you do it in a Thermomix? I move in cheffy circles and a lot of them use a Thermomix at work for lots of things.
But everyone i know (i am not in the UK) use it to make Eierlikör (Egg nog) and not much else...

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:12

Howseitgoin · 05/11/2025 00:16

You realise MA believes TWAW right? Oh wait…
https://x.com/MargaretAtwood/status/1280262917506641922

and yet we can still agree that what she said was accurate.

You see that is the difference between TRAs who have to have 100% compliance and purity, and regular women who can recognise that people can be right about some things, and wrong (so very very wrong) about others.

Too difficult for the TRAs among us to recognise that?

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:14

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Howseitgoin · 05/11/2025 08:17

Brefugee · 05/11/2025 08:12

and yet we can still agree that what she said was accurate.

You see that is the difference between TRAs who have to have 100% compliance and purity, and regular women who can recognise that people can be right about some things, and wrong (so very very wrong) about others.

Too difficult for the TRAs among us to recognise that?

Your'e missing the point. MA perceives trans women as women effectively including them in that famous quote about fear.

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