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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Etsy Die Mad Terf Mugs - part of their trans inclusive line of products

323 replies

IwantToRetire · 04/11/2025 20:10

See https://www.etsy.com/listing/1858479662/die-mad-terfs-trans-inclusive-mug

I thought this must be a wind up in a Daily Express article but turns out to be true.

Other items include lawn signs reading “In this house we don’t mourn dead transphobes”

Mims Davies MP, the Shadow Women’s Minister, said: “My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

“This is appalling and, once the item is quickly removed from sale, serious questions need to be asked.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2128252/etsy-die-mad-terfs-mug-outrage

Fury as Etsy sells ‘Die Mad Terfs’ mug branded death threat

Etsy faces backlash over a £16 mug with the slogan ‘Die Mad Terfs', branded a "death threat to women" by MP demanding its removal.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2128252/etsy-die-mad-terfs-mug-outrage

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Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

hellowhaaat3632 · 04/11/2025 20:23

Yikes I'm not even sure that's the worst thing being sold. I just looked at the others.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 04/11/2025 20:25

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

What rights are transpeople being denied?

Also - I don't know anyone who denies that transpeople exist. What an odd post.

hellowhaaat3632 · 04/11/2025 20:25

The furby holding a knife saying "respect my pronouns"

These people think they're on the right side of history??

hellowhaaat3632 · 04/11/2025 20:29

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

Do you think mocking someone is equivalent to sending death threats?

Dragonasaurus · 04/11/2025 20:29

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

Yeah, would you like to try to provide a reference for that? We all know they don’t exist, and you might find the experience of searching for them educational. Try reading the essay?

Strange how messages about killing women are considered fine, but saying TWANW is ‘literal genocide’

Greyskybluesky · 04/11/2025 20:31

Loads of anti JKR stuff on etsy too

Hoppinggreen · 04/11/2025 20:33

Of course saying people cannot change sex is EXACTLY the same as wanting to kill someone

Greyskybluesky · 04/11/2025 20:33

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

Go and have a go at them then instead of hanging round here where women are discussing their actual rights

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 04/11/2025 20:39

The gents are over there mate.

moderate · 04/11/2025 20:45

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

Unlikely. See https://terfisaslur.com

TERF is a slur

Documenting the abuse, harassment and misogyny of transgender identity politics

https://terfisaslur.com

SageSorrelSaffron · 04/11/2025 20:52

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

Wow! Do you think is actually for mugs relaxing saying Die Mad Transpeople.
The reason there isn’t is because there isn’t a market for them.
The ones Etsy have for sale - seem to have willing customers, who are wishing death on a lot of people.
Do you think it is possible to change sex, and do you think that knowing it isn’t should be a capital offence?

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:54

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 04/11/2025 20:25

What rights are transpeople being denied?

Also - I don't know anyone who denies that transpeople exist. What an odd post.

"What rights are transpeople being denied?"

Denial of usage of basic utilities..like bathrooms.
Denial of freedom of movement from an imposed moral panic
Denial of identity
Denial of self determination
Denial of health care
Denial of basic civilities

I could go on…

lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 20:55

There's loads of misogynist shite on Etsy. I've never seen a single thing that could be considered 'anti-trans' but, as I'm not in the market for that stuff, perhaps it's there and I've never seen it. Etsy is generally a bit shit. Full of stuff that I assume has been ordered from sites like Temu, marked up a billion percent and marketed as handcrafted. I did try to report an item that was clearly fraudulent. The process to do that...I don't actually think there was a process. I rarely bother buying anything from there nowadays.

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:56

hellowhaaat3632 · 04/11/2025 20:29

Do you think mocking someone is equivalent to sending death threats?

A cup with an edgy joke is hardly a threat…

Brefugee · 04/11/2025 21:00

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:54

"What rights are transpeople being denied?"

Denial of usage of basic utilities..like bathrooms.
Denial of freedom of movement from an imposed moral panic
Denial of identity
Denial of self determination
Denial of health care
Denial of basic civilities

I could go on…

you are literally denied NONE OF THAT
you can use the accessible toilet if you are too scared to use the correct sex one

Denial of freedom of movement from an imposed moral panic
what does that drivel even mean? All the bemasked men seem to get around no problem at all when women want to speak

Denial of identity
Bollocks, mate. How. How is your identity being denied?

i want you to give good, properly sourced proof of each of those.
I will not hold my breath because you can't provide what doesn't exist

lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 21:01

I wish it had some punctuation. Is it supposed to be 'Die, mad Terfs' or 'Die mad, Terfs'? Perhaps it's misspelled and should read 'Dye, madder, Terfs'? A hobby to pass the time now it's so unsafe to leave the house.

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 21:01

Dragonasaurus · 04/11/2025 20:29

Yeah, would you like to try to provide a reference for that? We all know they don’t exist, and you might find the experience of searching for them educational. Try reading the essay?

Strange how messages about killing women are considered fine, but saying TWANW is ‘literal genocide’

Edited

Motte bailey.
MN, X, reddit & facebook are chock full of demands for private spaces framed in dehumanising demonising rhetoric of trans women as delusional predatory fetishists & trans men as hapless victims of propaganda.

Brefugee · 04/11/2025 21:01

lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 21:01

I wish it had some punctuation. Is it supposed to be 'Die, mad Terfs' or 'Die mad, Terfs'? Perhaps it's misspelled and should read 'Dye, madder, Terfs'? A hobby to pass the time now it's so unsafe to leave the house.

nah - it's German: Die mad TERFs = the mad TERFs

Soontobe60 · 04/11/2025 21:02

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 20:19

“My actual first thought was who actually relaxes with a cup of tea with a death threat on to women?

The same sort of person who viciously mocks the existence & rights of trans people while relaxing with a nice cold glass of prosecco?

Edited

So where can I find these Prosecco glasses on ETSY?

lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 21:03

Are you sure it's the correct German 'the'? Have terfs been misgendered?

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 21:05

moderate · 04/11/2025 20:45

Unlikely. See https://terfisaslur.com

Yup, how convenient for that site to never post the preceding tweets?

There's this thing called 'cherry picking'…

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 04/11/2025 21:06

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Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 21:06

Soontobe60 · 04/11/2025 21:02

So where can I find these Prosecco glasses on ETSY?

There's this thing called 'MN' & 'X'….bottoms up!

Howseitgoin · 04/11/2025 21:08

Hoppinggreen · 04/11/2025 20:33

Of course saying people cannot change sex is EXACTLY the same as wanting to kill someone

Motte bailey.