Ocasio-Cortez vs Riley Gaines

[PopstarPoppy]

Wow. Just…wow. It’s so depressing how many female misogynists there are, and how many are in powerful positions.

thehill.com/homenews/media/5576319-ocasio-cortez-mocks-riley-gaines/

This

If you took every trans athlete out of sports, no one would have heard of Riley Gaines. She owes her livelihood to trans athletes.

Is quite funny.
As RG herself says that if it wasn't for the trans athletes she would have continued her studies to be a dentist.

Which I suspect is a lot more lucrative (and safer) than what she is currently doing.

No I can't. Can you?

Unfortunately although RG is (rightly) very vocal on one particular area, I wouldn't call someone who has talked about the "evils" of abortion rights a feminist exactly...

It does highlight a problem with how polarised US politics is currently. Neither side is exactly pro-women.

I would hardly call the comment under the photo a debate.

Fighting to keep biological males out of sport does not give her a pass on her views on women's bodily autonomy. Republicans are only selectively pro women #Adrianasmith

I'm not sure RG would call herself a feminist? I don't actually know but I suspect not. She's a very commited Christian.

I suspect she believes she campaigns for women's rights and cares about women but doesn't subsribe to all the supposed tenets to claim to be a feminist.

Being in favour of unrestricted abortion is not the only pro women stance. Many women think unrestricted abortion has harmed women in many ways. There are diffreing opinions on what leads to the best outcomes for women.

Anyway, yes I'm sure her abortion stnace is a key reason AOC feels it's OK to attack her like this

It wasn't unrestricted abortion to robbed Adriana Smith of her dignity in death.

Compare here, where the Conservatives have had two women PMs and one leader, and Labour zero. So yes, I agree it's more likely a woman Republican would succeed - but also unlikely given the male supremacy reigning in the USA in general. It'd take a very tough women equivalent to Thatcher.

Well no but this thread isn't about the abortion debate, so suffice to say RG's opinions on abortion is one of the reasons some women feel it's justfied to attack her as they do.

@PopstarPoppy I was also dismayed at AOC's really nasty comment. Also demonstrating her ignorance of the nature of trans ideology and how it's intruding on women's rights.

I agree if they run AOC they'll have had 3 terrible female candidates.
Not great for women.

Is not about abortion you are quite right. But holding up RG as some sort of victim is deeply offensive.

But RG and her ilk are great for women? Go and educate your self about Adriana Smith. IMOO RG stand for misogyny and the oppression in women... just not in sport or toilets.

Strangely, it’s possible that both Riley Gaines and Adriana Smith have been treated appallingly

Nope. They are beholden to the far left of their party and will therefore continue to lose.

No they have not. RG is a blonde haired white republican female in the US. It is insulting that you compare the level of treatment that they have endured.

Seems to me there's only one person here saying people should be treated differently based on their race, and that person is you.

AOC is a horrible, arrogant person. And whatever one thinks about Riley Gaines and Republicans in general, Gaines is dead right on this issue.

Tell me you know nothing about racism in the US, without telling me. Sit down and let the adults (some of them, anyway) talk.

Three female PMs, Thatcher, May and Truss, as well as Badenoch as leader.

Give the racism a rest, you don't want to be a Jew or get murdered or chased or hated just for existing.
RG absolutely can be a feminist, no one owns the term. She's pro women. She has conservative values, as do I. The left don't own feminism or even support it right now ...

Exactly.

RG is merely a useful wedge as is gender critical ideology effectively acting as a women's gateway to the far right. She either doesn't care (because of the incentives) or doesn't understand the leopards eating faces party aren't about to do women any favours particularly because they blame them & birth control for the 'browning' of America. No second prizes for guessing how they intend to make up for the birth rate decline of white babies.

“I want to dive into an issue more deeply into why targeting trans girls is particularly problematic not just for trans girls but for all of us… Trans people represent 1% of the population and we have spent so many resources and time figuring out how to more finely exclude them… and I’ve started to realize that a lot of these proposals here involve invasion of privacy of all women.” More recently, in a House hearing on a Republican bill to ban trans people from sports, Ocasio-Cortez delivered a searing rebuke: “Republicans, who have voted consistently against the Violence Against Women Act, who have taken the rights of all women to have control over their own body, who as women are bleeding out in parking lots, now want to pretend today that they care about women. And why? To open up genital inspection on little girls across this country in the name of attacking trans girls. We have two words. Not today.”

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/aoc-to-anti-trans-swimmer-riley-gaines

Unlike RG, AOC knows exactly what time it is…

She is not pro women, she is anti trans. There is a difference. Educate yourself.

I appreciate you know what it feels like, and strongly identify with this powerlessness of position; but your projection on this thread is not doing you any good at all.

It’s ok to be emotional. It’s ok to have some talking time out there in the real world.

Adriana Smith was treated appallingly.
Riley Gaines being expected to strip in front of a man, while he was waving his penis around in the women’s changing room counts, in my book as being treated appallingly.
Their race is not relevant in terms of my belief both were treated appallingly.

if you think it’s fine for RG to be treated like this because she’s a blonde white woman, that sounds like a you problem

@Howseitgoin maybe you can answer my question from earlier, Polly doesn’t seem to have an answer