Ocasio-Cortez vs Riley Gaines

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Wow. Just…wow. It’s so depressing how many female misogynists there are, and how many are in powerful positions.

thehill.com/homenews/media/5576319-ocasio-cortez-mocks-riley-gaines/

If Riley Gaines was so powerless, why the fuck is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez personally attacking her for Riley making a generic political comment about political parties at the moment?

Because she's a woman standing up for women's rights, something which the Communist Party of Great Britain, hardly a hotbed of fascism, also supports.

Bigot - someone intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others. Look in the mirror, Polly, and you'll see a bigot looking back at you.

Same. And incredibly dim.

The Dems have their own billionnaires & do as their billionnaires tell them. Trouble is, being born into, marrying, or making scads of cash doesn't mean that you have good political radar or even any common sense, but AOC has a sweet gig now, of course she doesn't want to upset her backers & go back to a life of relying on tips.
Also, AOC needs the DSA whose own version of good ol' boys & their obedient women are welded to the trans guff, & many of them are still miffed at her re another aspect of the omnicause so she throws women under the bus harder to prove her worth to them.

I will never understand these stupid women who say they are feminists but then deny the physical differences between women and men.

How do they think men manage to rape, beat and murder so many of us and have done throughout history?

Do they think we could just fight back and that we're just lazy twats who are too busy channeling our anger or fear or survival instincts into irrelevant stuff? Or that we've never thought of self defence and fighting back?

When women like AOC tell sportswomen that all they need to do to beat men is train harder, it sounds to me like they are telling victims of rape, sexual abuse and murder they should have fought back harder and that if they couldn't it's because they're lazy bitches who just couldn't be bothered to learn the skills that would enable them to withstand male violence against them. What other explanation could there be if you genuinely believe that women can compete against men on a physical level?

It's fucking nauseating.

Remember that Semenya told Lyndsey Sharp should have spent more time training harder too instead of complaining that Semenya and two other male athletes won the 800 m in Rio.

Riley was not wrong. Telling Riley to train harder was a misogynist thing to say.

AOC trash talking RG is delibrate playing to the base stuff. They love this. Gavin Newson is adopting a similar strategy, on twitter they are emulating Trump's 'I don't give afuck about the old rules I'm a fighter who plays outside the rules' approach.

Trump's base love this about him, will the democrat base love it?

It's certainly helping her raise her profile which is what she wanst if she's going to run for president, which she is probably is. And she may well get the nomination from the party. They seem to be going full on socialist/trans the kids/ release the criminals with the support and presumed election of Mondami in NYC.

The base may love this but the centre of the country won't and an AOC vs JD contest would be interesting.

That is it as far as I know recently. Obviously RG responded to Cortez's job reference by saying she was a mum.

However they have crossed swords before over years and RG has generally come out on top.

2023 RG testifies before congress - AOC talks nonsense in response

https://www.outkick.com/culture/riley-gaines-blasts-aoc-for-fear-mongering-to-scare-people-into-letting-trans-identifying-biological-men-compete-in-womens-sports

2024 AOC drops pronouns !!!! RG's comments on this went viral AOC stays silent.

Riley Gaines repeatedly tears into AOC for taking pronouns out of X bio after advocating for trans athletes

https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/us-news/riley-gaines-repeatedly-tears-into-aoc-for-taking-pronouns-out-of-x-bio-after-advocating-for-trans-athletes/#!

Jan/Feb 2025 RG undermines AOC again after congress speech/bill.

Riley Gaines urges AOC to change position on trans athletes in women's sports amid Rep's recent silence on it
Ocasio-Cortez's most recent comments on the issue sparked backlash from some Democrats

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/riley-gaines-urges-aoc-change-position-trans-athletes-womens-sports-amid-reps-recent-silence

I think AOC outburst shows her insecurity on this issue and how RG has come in first in the competition between them and how she has had a growing resentment over it. The pronouns thing may have hit deeper than one thinks. AOC subconsciously thinks RG is right, that's why she dropped pronouns, but can't admit it to the world or herself. AOC is a digital native like Gaines and she knows going viral for this stuff rather than deeper issues is a losing proposition. She keeps digging deeper though.

Doyle is on it:

TitaniaMcGrath 6:04 PM · Oct 28, 2025

"AOC nailing it again!

Trans women tend to be better athletes because they have to work harder to combat oppression.

Cis women are just too lazy to beat them."

https://x.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1983233499634212984

Thanks for the history, fromorbit.

I cannot see in those links that RG has personally attacked Cortez in the same manner that Cortez has resorted to attacking RG personally. Attacking the points that Cortez supports and says, yes, but not making it personal in the way this has turned this week.

Pity. She'd do better than AOC (who I understand is a USian politician on the Democrat side - and they think they'll win another election with this guff!).

Have the Democrats learned anything from November 2024?
Anything at all?

@PollyNomial , both you and AOC have seen fit to address this with personal attacks rather than making an actual argument. So, you have the opportunity….

Women’s sports were instigated because the biological differences between male and female bodies mean that it is pretty much always unfair to expect males and females to compete on level terms. Male advantage does not disappear upon transition, skeleton geometry and bone length can never be changed, just as transition doesn’t give men the better colour vision that most women have. The vast majority of sports favour characteristics where males have an advantage. Can you explain why you think it is fair to allow someone with these inherent advantages into the female category?

Edited to add, I’m not really expecting a response - surprise me?

I am still really unsure what it is that Cortez thought she would achieve with these interactions.

She attacked not only Riley for not winning or beating a man competing in a female swimming event but also then telling Riley, a brand new mother, to 'get a job' as if Riley was not 'working' with either her activism or motherhood.

I could accept that Cortez may have misspoke for the first, but she then doubled down. If you wouldn't say these things in general, why the fuck does she think making such accusations is going to win her respect and ultimately votes from women?

Exactly, she's going to challenge Chuck Schumer, so she undermines him by appealing to the young energetic far left base.
But appealing to the far left in the US is not a national election winner. The Democrats have really low numbers...

She might even get the Senate nomination, because Schumer isn't getting any younger.

I suspect she might struggle in the general election, because of this thing called "New York State".

Trump's base love this about him, will the democrat base love it?

Having been following US politics closely for the past few years, it's clear the name of the game these days is authenticity. That's how you build your base of people who are faithful to you. I think the Democrats have decided they need to manufacture authenticity for their own but not many can pull that trick off.

As an example of this, a number of younger Democrats have suddenly developed potty mouths to show they're down with the base but this often looks rather off-note.

When it comes to authenticity... well, Trump has this weird reality-warping power where sometimes he can be totally sincere and yet you know he's in on the joke.

I keep thinking of that campaign stunt where he worked at McDonalds. He openly acknowledged it was a stunt, but at the same time he loves McDonalds, he eats their stuff all the time (much to his doctor's distress I'm sure), he knows every item on the menu. So when you saw that footage of him putting on the apron, chatting to the staff, learning how to work the fryer, serving at the drive-through window, there was a kind of childlike joy on his face that you couldn't fake.

Imagine Gavin Newsom flipping burgers and the absurdity is too much to bear.

A bunch of Republican candidates tried to ape the Trump style while keeping the old corporate GOP policies and it didn't work. Vance got it the right way round by having the populist agenda but a more polite style that's authentic to Vance.

One of my favourite US senators, for pure entertainment purposes, is Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma. He's the only Native American senator. I think he's the only senator without a college degree, and one of very few who isn't a lawyer. He's a construction industry guy, and looks it. He's brash and rude and often gets into shouting matches with Bernie Sanders. He's kind of an insult comedian moonlighting as a senator.

Mullin is a useful yardstick for saying, well this guy can get away with it but I'm not this guy. A slick coastal Democrat trying to be as rude and abrasive as Mullin, without Mullin's great comic delivery, would just look stupid.

A lot of Trump supporters feel that they know what they're getting with Trump. Now, they might be deluded in that but if they feel he's what they believe him to be then they'll continue to support him.

AOC knows what she;s doing. RG isn't just womens rights campaigner in the democrats view she's a Christian, right wing, Trump support aka a Nazi. So people like her should be hated as they are evil.

Have you seen Jenifer Welsch (some reality Tv star) call RG an insufferable twat and a dumb bitch yesterday on twitter? the democrats have lost theor minds and think some people on the other side are just scum.

So AOC attacking her is exactly what her base wants to see. Destroy the scum.
This will work for her within the party which is all she cares about just now. She's not trying to win over moderate centrist voters, she;s showing how much hate she has for the evil people.

The democrats need to find their own charismatic candidate who is as authentic as Trump seems to his base. They had it with Bernie, but AOC and Newson just seem to be play acting at the moment.

Trump is funny. Funny goes a long way.

Also I don't think it's a coincidence that women have gone after Riley now she's a new mum and posting a lot about being a mother.

This will be more evidence of her right wing evilness drawing attention to the difference between men and women and the sacredness of babies.
Neither of which the left want talked about.

I don't put a huge amount of importance on having a woman president in the US just for the sake of having a woman, but it is unfortunate that the Dems have been running these female candidates who are very unlikely to win. AOC is really popular in the Dem base - unlike Harris - but I am not sure she is popular enough with swing voters to win.

The reason it is unfortunate, imo, is people will keep blaming their losses on misogynist voters, rather than the Dems being clueless and running unwinnable candidates. And maybe people will start to really believe that and shy away even from good female candidates.

I think a good woman candidate could absolutely win in the US. I almost think a Republican woman would fare better.

Have you seen Jenifer Welsch (some reality Tv star) call RG an insufferable twat and a dumb bitch yesterday on twitter? the democrats have lost theor minds and think some people on the other side are just scum.

Theres nothing funnier than listening to americans trying to say twat.

I'm convinced the first woman president will be a Republican. Someone will go all out to talk tough and out men the men, and voters will go for it. The Democrats are in trouble. The 'Kamala is for they/them, Trump is for you' line really struck a chord but they can't back away from it.

Remember there is a stream of feminists who believe that if female athletes train harder or differently, they will be fully competitive to male athletes.

I don't believe any female athlete really believes that, as she has the evidence of her own body.

And I have no idea why so many male-obeying women call themselves feminists - why???? It's not a fashionable stance, it won't win them any applause. If you don't centre women, why call yourself a feminist? I don't call myself a rugby player or a supermodel, because I'm not one and I don't aim to be. I just don't see the point.

Oh, actually I can see why someone would join a group they secretly oppose, in order to sabotage it from inside. Maybe that's it. Maybe I should call myself a transliberationist and bang on at people about being born in the wrong body ....