Far right women

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Katie Lam and Pochin from Reform spouting stuff that makes me feel sick. Looking at all the glossy goons like Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi surrounding Trump. I am predicting that Erica Kirk will be the first woman President or perhaps more likely Vance’s Vice President. I’m not talking about women who would like to pay less tax, or Theresa May, but those who rise in extreme right wing circles.

I’m working my way extremely slowly through Andrea Dworkin’s ‘Right Wing Women’. Has anyone else read it? I don’t have any conclusions about this yet…

Define “extreme right wing”

If the prospect of Erica Kirk or JD Vance being elected after 2028 is such a terrible prospect for the US, perhaps the Democrats could take responsibility for this and offer the electorate someone who would be more appealing. That wouldn't be Kamala Harris.

Generally means you think anyone born with a penis is a man and shouldn't be in women's spaces therefore you are extremely Right Wing and can safely be ignored.

If the conservatives and labour are worried about reform winning, they need to address what it is that appeals to potential reform voters.

I take it that this is about a comment about ethnic representation in adverts? Rather than take it in the worst possible way, they need to understand what voters understand about the comment.

Claiming everyone is far right and racist isnt working.

“It drives me mad when I see adverts full of black people” Pochin
Bondi turning the judiciary into an enforcement department for the executive branch
Noem posing in a vest in front of a detention cage

These are women of the extreme right. Argue that if you like, I don’t agree. My question is, what attracts women to this end of politics?

This, exactly.

I agree its a bad take.

Whats actually happened is that advertisers want to represent everyone, and that has lead to black people being over represented in adverts.

Most people arent bothered by that in itself. There was a lots of jokes going around about the average couple must be mix race if the advert were to be believed, thats all.

But for some it show how inclusion and represention is prioritised over everything else.

Claim these people racist, but that isnt going to make them vote differently.

True there’s been so many accusations due to women pushing back on this.

Are you somehow expecting women to be more morally correct (or more so in your opinion anyway) than men?

I’m struggling to see where you’re coming from tbh

I don’t see how the far right represent any womens interests. Having seen farage speak to a journalist this week in the most condescending manner I’m shocked that any woman would want to align themselves to a party with him in it.

”listen love, you’re trying ever so hard”.

I’d expect an mp to at least demonstrate an element of professionalism when speaking to people and that just would not fly in any professional environment.

And you think Sadiq Khan prioritises women’s interests?

if you think the left give any more of a shit about women than the right you’re delusional

I always feel the thing that women who are pro women’s rights and know that sex is real should bear in mind is the enemy of my enemy is not my friend
These ring wing Americans may be on the same page when it comes to trans women aren’t actually women, but the only thing they hate more than TW are actual women and their bodily autonomy

The difference between left-wing and right-wing when it comes to women is only about where exactly on our necks their boots should be placed. To right-wing men, we are private property. To left-wing men, we are public property.

Andrea Dworkin in Right Wing Women.

Men of all political shades shit on women. Women become stronger when we recognise this.

Yadnbu but as you can see from the responses, some Very Online women have embraced the far right because they know what a woman is (the ones they deny rights to, easy peasy).

Meanwhile radical feminists and those who work mainly IRL keep concentrating on women's material conditions and rights.

I whole heartedly disagree. Farages comment shows a blatant open disrespect for women which will be adopted by his supporters. Whataboutism is a weak argument where you can’t actually justify what farage said.

I wasn’t talking about the left I was talking about the right and they are clearly, deeply mysoginistic

Who are you blaming here? Not sure who you’re being derisory to

Advetising is the ultimate expression of commercial reality. If there are more people of colour in adverts - I’d certainly say there are compared to my youth in the 70s and 80s - it’s because it sells. For the ‘normal’ right, that should really be the end of it. The (soft) left might be pleased at the increased diversity. It would be interesting to know how the commercial benefit works, I can think of a lot of elements tangled up there.

Saying that it ‘drives you mad’ to see more black people on screen or that companies think there is a benefit to doing that is extreme right. Clearly Pochin thinks that message will sell to the audience she wants.

@EasternStandardwell that's helped illustrate my point about online influences, thanks I suppose.

No idea what you’re talking about. Can you specify?

Here is Dennis Jones, Peterborough Council’s Labour leader, a man who has views you may otherwise approve of describing children who have been raped as poor white trash from Rotherham.

you thinking he cares about women? Seems ever so nice, doesn’t he?

God knows I’m no fan of Farage, but this knee jerk assumption that the way to deal with right wing misogynists is to vote for left wing misogynists is self delusion of the highest order

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7d93kyndxo

She's talking to us, not you. What effect do you think it's meant to have? It's for us to know what she's on about. (us: women who aren't far right)

I think if we don’t agree to swallow any misgivings we have about left wing misogyny for the good of all women everywhere our poor lady brains have been corrupted by shadowy forces

or something

The right think women should be private property.
The left think women should be public property.