Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

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In some incidences, children as young as 11 who reported being raped saw trials against their attackers collapse and were left to become victims of further abuse.

Suspected grooming gang and child exploitation cases from the last 15 years will be reviewed as part of the investigation, Met Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley said in letter to Mayor of London Sir Sadiq Khan on Friday evening.

A government-ordered audit into the grooming gangs scandal earlier this year found there is “mismatch” in the way the Met and London local authorities record child abuse.

Baroness Louise Casey’s report said the force logged 2.77 contact child sexual abuse cases per 1,000 children, while boroughs recorded just 1.3 child-in-need assessments for child sexual exploitation and 1.79 for child sexual abuse.

There also appears to be a significant overlap between child sexual abuse and county lines drug trafficking gangs.

Full article here https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/met-police-london-reopen-grooming-gangs-probe-b1254846.html

Firstly "we" are not responsible.
What has happened is a pattern of exploitation and abuse of vulnerable white girls by predatory men. Check out some of their language about these girls, much of it documented. That's their attitude, which is one thing. How it wasn't stopped earlier is another, and an issue which seriously is concerning.

It's all a bit Animal Farm isn't it? We're all equal, but some are more equal than others.

You may need to start reading up on the basics of this issue as the whole point seems to have whooshed straight over your head.

Get back to us when you’ve caught up.

This ⬆️

Yes I think I will have to do a bit more reading on this particular topic then. Somebody suggested I read a report by Alexis Jay into the goings on of the council in Rotherham.

Acknowledged.

In Pakistan there are still Muslims resisting new laws which have been passed in some jurisdictions against child brides ( under 18) and an age of consent of 18. They traditionally feel that their Sharia laws and customs allow marriage (therefore sex) at puberty.

The awful thing is that men living by these cultural views, and who despise western more liberal culture, are not even going to see sex with someone as young as these girls are as paedophilia as we do, but just as sex with ‘others’ who don’t count, and prey.

https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/articles/a-turning-point-in-pakistans-fight-to-end-child-marriage-the-child-marriage-restraint-act-2025-for-islamabad-capital-territory/

Meanwhile there have been two abhorrent ‘racially motivated’ rapes in the West Midlands over the last months and we’ve immediately been given full descriptions of the (white) males responsible which is in start contrast of all the other locally reported rapes which have just been perpetrated by ‘a male’.

It really is starting to become clear that, in the eyes of the law, racially motivated offences can only be perpetrated by white people.

But isn’t it likely that those crimes were also committed by white British cisgender males too? On balance of probability that would generally be the case no?

You were doing so well, your edit gives you away.

Don’t be so paranoid, I understand that the transgender community are another demographic unfairly stigmatised with regards to violence against women and wanted to make it abundantly clear I wasn’t implicating them in anything untoward.

Sorry also missed this part in the first read:

I don’t understand though, if they are so afraid of us, then why would they seek out and target white girls for exploitation?

Who told you ‘they’ are so afraid of ‘us’? Or do you just automatically assume this? Why?

These gangs have been operating with impunity for over 50 years.
Thats longer than I’ve been alive.

I really hope you do engage in further reading, because your initial view I first commented on was absolutely rage inducing, and was very dogmatic whilst being completely devoid of fact

Exactly. I don’t understand why these are not also classed as hate crimes.

Well, I do understand….

It’s all bullshit

I don't think anyone is "unfairly stigmatised" with regards to violenc against women and girls. Arrest and conviction of any men involved would be a win for most of us.

You have made it abundantly clear that you consider transwomen to be males. Amazing.

And ofc you have attempted a derail you naughty thing.

It’s so depressing how this has gone on so long and at such a scale. I managed to read about one of the abused girls but couldn’t read more it’s so harrowing.

Also, a PP said the UK had it particularly bad, but you’ve no idea what goes on in other countries and lots of this abuse goes unreported or hidden as it did here for decades. It’s like saying western countries are worse for women because there are more reported rapes here than in some other regions, but of course you’re not factoring in the differences and that there’s even less incentive to report rape in some other countries. Maybe if the man was married you’d be arrested for adultery as has happened in places like UAE.

Am I missing something? The article refers to a long overdue investigation that is going to be carried out into grooming gangs in London. But then women here immediately assume that said grooming gangs are Pakistani and are getting your pitchforks ready. Nowhere in the article does mention anyone's ethnicity

"getting your pitchforks ready", @Morningsleepin ?
So, women who want justice for girls and women who have been exploited and abused are now "pitchfork" wielders?
Of course. We're the unreasonable ones. It doesn't change, does it.?

Yes, @Morningsleepin you ARE missing something. Quite a lot in fact. You could always actually read the thread? And using the word "pitchforks" helps nobody, including yourself.

Read Ereshkigalangcleg's post from yesterday at 07:20 if you really don't understand why Pakistani grooming gangs were referenced in this context:

"The mostly Pakistani rape “grooming” gangs are not an invention of the “gutter press”, they are a discrete phenomenon over decades and in multiple towns and cities. Read the 2015 Casey report into Rotherham Council."

You need to read the thread before weighing in with your "pitchfork" allegations. The discussion has (as expected on a discussion forum) developed from the initial OP with all sorts of political issues being discussed. 🙄

And before this article, the official line from Sadiq Khan was that there was no problem in London at all, and nothing needed to be investigated.
In fact, he seemed confused by the very notion of what a ‘grooming gang’ even was.

I’m sure there’ll be more information still come.

In the meantime it’s worth remembering that before the Pakistani rape gangs in general were widely reported on, there was also nothing to see there apart from pitchforks apparently 🙄

People have been lied to for years.

Why is it ‘pitchfork’ territory for people to assume they’re being lied to again, by the very same institutions and for the very same reasons?

Sounds like yes, you are missing something.

Peoples pattern recognition abilities.

If you don’t understand the grooming gang phenomenon, that’s a you problem.

It's nothing to do with anyone's 'gender identity'. It's the fact that males commit 99% of all sexual abuse/crime/assaults.

Transgender identity is irrelevant, other than some men use it as a way to access women.

'There is no grooming gang problem in London'
'Okay, there is a problem, but it's to do with county lines'
'Okay, there is a problem, but it's generally child abuse, and it's everywhere'
'Generally, lots of people do horrible things, but let's not look too closely at the subject'.
'Anyone who keeps banging on about looking closely at the subject is a racist'.

"Oh, you're questioning it? Put your pitchforks down!"