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Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

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IwantToRetire · 25/10/2025 19:51

In some incidences, children as young as 11 who reported being raped saw trials against their attackers collapse and were left to become victims of further abuse.

Suspected grooming gang and child exploitation cases from the last 15 years will be reviewed as part of the investigation, Met Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley said in letter to Mayor of London Sir Sadiq Khan on Friday evening.

A government-ordered audit into the grooming gangs scandal earlier this year found there is “mismatch” in the way the Met and London local authorities record child abuse.

Baroness Louise Casey’s report said the force logged 2.77 contact child sexual abuse cases per 1,000 children, while boroughs recorded just 1.3 child-in-need assessments for child sexual exploitation and 1.79 for child sexual abuse.

There also appears to be a significant overlap between child sexual abuse and county lines drug trafficking gangs.

Full article here https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/met-police-london-reopen-grooming-gangs-probe-b1254846.html

Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

Suspected grooming gangs cases exposed by Standard investigation to be reexamined as part of huge Met Police review

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/met-police-london-reopen-grooming-gangs-probe-b1254846.html

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SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 16:15

These girls are seen as lesser, as we know. The wrong backgrounds. That's a huge part of why it's taken so long for them to even get a hearing. Class is never far away.

There's something about this thread that reminds me of Iain Dale, a few weeks ago, saying that when he sees a non-white face he feels glad in his heart and would like to know what has brought that person to Britain, the land of opportunity.

I mean come on Iain, tell us you live in Tunbridge Wells without telling us you live in Tunbridge Wells. If you lived in Whitechapel the novelty would wear off pretty quickly.

There's a certain type of privileged lefty who seems to have no knowledge of normie white Brits - except that they instinctively hate and fear normie white Brits, who they see as permanently on the brink of turning into a fascist mob - and also to have no knowledge of minority communities. It's all about upscale whites using minorities as a prop to differentiate themselves from downscale whites.

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 16:17

merkinmanipulator · 29/10/2025 16:12

@Swiftasthewind how many white women and girls need to be raped to offset one unit of racism?

I find it particularly distasteful that while the harms done to those girls are documented and appallingly harrowing, they are apparently less significant than some vague idea of 'racism' .

defrazzled · 29/10/2025 16:18

@SionnachRuadh I am in Whitechapel, by coincidence at the moment and it is lovely tbh, having a great time. I think Rochdale, Halifax or Burnley is where my "betters" need to spend a week or 2 before telling me what I am allowed to think or you know, what happens to me, in my actual real life 😂

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 16:23

It's all about upscale whites using minorities as a prop to differentiate themselves from downscale whites.

100%

Reminding me a bit of how many men are engaged in a status struggle with other men, and women are only seen as incidental tokens of success - or obstacles - within that framework.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4503401/

'... low-status males increase female-directed hostility to minimize the loss of status as a consequence of hierarchical reconfiguration resulting from the entrance of a woman into the competitive arena. '

Insights into Sexism: Male Status and Performance Moderates Female-Directed Hostile and Amicable Behaviour - PMC

Gender inequality and sexist behaviour is prevalent in almost all workplaces and rampant in online environments. Although there is much research dedicated to understanding sexist behaviour, we have almost no insight into what triggers this behaviour .....

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4503401/

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 16:26

defrazzled · 29/10/2025 16:18

@SionnachRuadh I am in Whitechapel, by coincidence at the moment and it is lovely tbh, having a great time. I think Rochdale, Halifax or Burnley is where my "betters" need to spend a week or 2 before telling me what I am allowed to think or you know, what happens to me, in my actual real life 😂

I don't mind Whitechapel and I go there often. I don't know why Whitechapel Fried Chicken brands itself that way when its kebabs are its real selling point... but Londoners and their fried chicken addiction is a wild thing. Our mayor is more passionate when bigging up Morley's than when he's talking politics.

Yes, I think it would open some people's eyes if they had to spend a couple of weeks in Rochdale.

GoldThumb · 29/10/2025 16:41

defrazzled · 29/10/2025 16:15

@GoldThumb I have been thinking about your comment a lot. It agree in part but it is more complex. "They" hate themselves for not controlling us. We are "the British problem" and they have allowed us to fall out of line with what we are allowed to think. So they hate themselves for allowing us, the unruly children, to be naughty and make a fuss.
Remember the pandemic when everyone had to pretend to like us "key worker heroes" who played 'contagion' on the front line. We got claps instead of pay rises then and now it's sit down, shut up, your ration and take what's coming for us lot. But we're all sick of you and being told our children being raped is for the "greater good"

That’s exactly it, they are worth sacrificing for the ‘greater good’.

Who decides on this greater good?

It’s why you get so many insults of being thick, lazy, racist etc if you don’t go along with it.

Because these elites or middle class bleeding hearts are telling you what’s the greater good, and you’d see it only you stopped being so thick and racist.

defrazzled · 29/10/2025 16:52

OMG YES! It's all about upscale whites using minorities as a prop to differentiate themselves from downscale whites.

We ought to be happy with our sweet tea and greasy chips, the tiny measured treats that propel us faster into our graves eh?

EdithStourton · 29/10/2025 19:00

radicalisation of the working class
And why, perchance, is the much-despised 'working class' so ripe for radicalisation, do we think?
Answers on a postcard...

minorities... a living hell...
As chance would have it, yesterday evening I was having a conversation with a relative by marriage who is very obviously a member of a minority. He very much likes living in England, and complained at length about people who move to the UK and make no effort to integrate...

RoamingToaster · 29/10/2025 20:17

Millions of people in this country who are making the lives of minorities a living hell every single day for the crime of not being the correct ethnicity

It’s quite an effort to make someone’s life a living hell every day I’d imagine. Do you have evidence millions of white people are actively doing this?

BundleBoogie · 29/10/2025 22:20

Swiftasthewind · 29/10/2025 15:07

I’m not advocating for or against anything like that, it’s just the way the demographic profile of the west is going and if you’re of the left then you may as well use it to your benefit.

Are you aware of what happens to the left when they help the extremists take over?

The Iranian revolution of 1978–83 was a disaster for Iranian leftists, who, having worked for the overthrow of the Shah, soon found themselves being persecuted by the hard-line followers of the Ayatollah Khomeini. This paper looks at the response of Western leftists to the unfolding of the revolution, considering, first, to what extent Marxist and class-based analyses helped explain the revolution and, second, why so many Western leftist groups and individuals defended the Khomeini faction even as it moved against secular leftists and liberals. It concludes that an uncritical identification with Khomeini's declared ‘anti-imperialism’ distorted the views of those who would ordinarily have opposed his regime on class grounds, and that such a misreading was aided by an inadequate distinction between bourgeois democracy and dictatorship.

www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0308514042000329351

Swiftasthewind · 29/10/2025 22:23

RoamingToaster · 29/10/2025 20:17

Millions of people in this country who are making the lives of minorities a living hell every single day for the crime of not being the correct ethnicity

It’s quite an effort to make someone’s life a living hell every day I’d imagine. Do you have evidence millions of white people are actively doing this?

Just ask anyone who is of visible ethnic minority status and listen to what they have to say. It will truly shock you.

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 23:25

That's the evidence on which you decide it's worth ignoring the rape and torture of thousands of girls and women? That's it?

coxesorangepippin · 30/10/2025 00:40

There's definitely a certain demographic of person on MN and they tend to be white, middle class women from the south of England.

I suggest they go and visit Bradford, Blackburn, Rotherham, Burnley and Keighley. Just see to see how it is.

I grew up in East Lancashire in the 1990s and there was grooming going on daily at the school gates. Teachers were not interested whatsoever.

There were huge gangs of Pakistani boys at school who were absolutely relentless towards white girls only: you can imagine the language and attitude.

Then occasionally there'd be a massive brawl between white lads/Pakistanis lads.

Fun times.

coxesorangepippin · 30/10/2025 00:42

Defrazzled : I raise you Stoneyholme then we'll talk

😂

justasking111 · 30/10/2025 03:59

GoldThumb · 29/10/2025 16:41

That’s exactly it, they are worth sacrificing for the ‘greater good’.

Who decides on this greater good?

It’s why you get so many insults of being thick, lazy, racist etc if you don’t go along with it.

Because these elites or middle class bleeding hearts are telling you what’s the greater good, and you’d see it only you stopped being so thick and racist.

Sons partner grew up in West Yorkshire would agree that some people need to spend time in some towns to understand that women are less than human in some eyes.

I've learnt a lot from her family. She said to me once that it's annoying that her family accent marks them down as thick when in fact all the women studied at university, are high flying career women.

These women now middle aged were routinely sexually harassed decades ago as Bradford etc evolved, the grooming was inevitable apparently. Unless you ferried your daughter's from place to place and their friends you took risks.

merkinmanipulator · 30/10/2025 06:57

@Swiftasthewind please can you answer my question as to how you expect to be taken seriously as a principled left-winger when you're on that other thread openly slavering over the idea of sex tourism?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/10/2025 07:36

merkinmanipulator · 30/10/2025 06:57

@Swiftasthewind please can you answer my question as to how you expect to be taken seriously as a principled left-winger when you're on that other thread openly slavering over the idea of sex tourism?

Would love to hear that answer too.

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 07:58

merkinmanipulator · 30/10/2025 06:57

@Swiftasthewind please can you answer my question as to how you expect to be taken seriously as a principled left-winger when you're on that other thread openly slavering over the idea of sex tourism?

I don’t understand? What is wrong with going to another country to look for romance? It’s not like I’ve had a good time of things here.

Igneococcus · 30/10/2025 08:11

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 07:58

I don’t understand? What is wrong with going to another country to look for romance? It’s not like I’ve had a good time of things here.

There were young men offering their services to female tourists on Mahe in the Seychelles when I was there (to join a ship not for the sex), maybe you could look there, just don't mistake it for "romance".

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/10/2025 08:14

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 07:58

I don’t understand? What is wrong with going to another country to look for romance? It’s not like I’ve had a good time of things here.

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Actual scenes from this posters place of work from which they post their totally genuine opinions

RoamingToaster · 30/10/2025 08:15

Swiftasthewind · 29/10/2025 22:23

Just ask anyone who is of visible ethnic minority status and listen to what they have to say. It will truly shock you.

That's a bit impractical and imposing. I can't imagine feeling great if a man started asking me about my negative experiences with men in order to educate him. Not to mention it wouldn't be a way to prove your claim.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/10/2025 08:15

Shame, cos this thread has by and large been educational and fascinating

juggleit · 30/10/2025 09:32

BundleBoogie · 27/10/2025 06:52

Quite. Why else would Alison Lowe, Deputy Mayor of West Yorkshire, say that she ‘did not want a review anywhere in West Yorkshire’ which includes Bradford, one of the worst affected areas?

The Muslim Council of Britain apparently would give qualified support to an enquiry with a huge emphasis on stopping ‘racism’ being a factor.

From their website:

Those who seek to weaponise this issue against Muslims have already got answers they didn’t want from previous inquiries. Despite persistent racist narratives, recent data from the Centre of Expertise on Child Sexual Abuse for 2022/23 show that perpetrators come from all backgrounds and that most group-based offenders are white.”

https://mcb.org.uk/mcb-we-need-truth-and-action-against-child-sexual-abuse-gangs-not-a-racist-witch-hunt/

But relative numbers are important here.
I think the best approach is to look at the ‘cultural motivation’ rather than the ethnicity. To educate those coming to the Uk about the law and cultural expectations towards women is a responsibilities of those communities.
The men coming to the UK to carry out these crimes are criminals in their own country and the Pakinstani communities know this. There have been some very vocal British born Pakistani women on this subject. Unfortunately fear plays a big factor here of being pushed away from the community if people do speak out.
Most law abiding Pakistani people are abhorrent at what has happened in their communities and would want these people removed form their societies.
This isn't about race its about ‘criminality’ But to try and cover up investigations for fear of ‘racism’ is wrong.

EdithStourton · 30/10/2025 11:07

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 07:58

I don’t understand? What is wrong with going to another country to look for romance? It’s not like I’ve had a good time of things here.

😲😲😲
Maybe consider the motivations on both sides.
Romance it ain't.

BundleBoogie · 30/10/2025 13:34

juggleit · 30/10/2025 09:32

But relative numbers are important here.
I think the best approach is to look at the ‘cultural motivation’ rather than the ethnicity. To educate those coming to the Uk about the law and cultural expectations towards women is a responsibilities of those communities.
The men coming to the UK to carry out these crimes are criminals in their own country and the Pakinstani communities know this. There have been some very vocal British born Pakistani women on this subject. Unfortunately fear plays a big factor here of being pushed away from the community if people do speak out.
Most law abiding Pakistani people are abhorrent at what has happened in their communities and would want these people removed form their societies.
This isn't about race its about ‘criminality’ But to try and cover up investigations for fear of ‘racism’ is wrong.

Yes. I think part of the problem is that people generally lump all Muslims in together (especially the energetic virtue signallers ) so the ones with bad beliefs and behaviours gain protections from people feeling compelled to be extra nice to the decent ones and sometimes overcompensating.

Many Muslims in this country are here to get away from the hellholes that extreme Islamism create. Some Muslims in this country are here to spread extreme Islamism and take over our country. We end up facilitating the bad ones and often turning a blind eye (repeated first cousin marriage for example) to harmful behaviours because we daren’t upset ‘the Muslims’.

Working through all these thought processes is the talking only with people yelling ‘racist’ at us is so important. There is clearly an issue. The left want to solve it by telling us to shut up and submit to our fate. We want to talk and find a solution.

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