Demonstration against Let Women Speak Oxford

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A demonstration organised by the campaign group Let Women Speak (LWS) took place today at Bonn Square. Around 100 counterprotestors also assembled, including members from the Oxford Green Party, Stand Up to Racism, and Oxford for Trans Rights (O4TR).
https://www.cherwell.org/2025/10/18/oxford-trans-counterprotest-women/

Event was https://www.letwomenspeak.org/event-details/let-women-speak-oxford-2

@MouldyPeppers Obviously not.

@GreenFriedTomato I used a vernacular phrase a lot of people use. In the same way I use TRA.

I’m glad to hear that there are areas of women’s rights on which we would definitely agree.

In my opinion, I can’t agree with your derogatory and sweeping generalisations against a huge number of people with some extra accusations of racism thrown in.

You have no idea if the people you label as ‘flag shaggers’ on those marches or LWS are racist. There were black and brown people there are well - were they racist?

when all they really care about is whether the blokes attacking them are brown.

Maybe you found our interaction odd because you’re not used to being called out on this? Maybe it’s perfectly acceptable in your circles or maybe you haven’t really given it much thought, just picked up on the language of others?

Anyway, I’m off now. Have a good day.

I'm old enough to remember the football hooligans of the 70's and 80's, hijacking weekend footy matches and rioting, under the guise of patriotism. So thats why I have zero respect for anyone, no matter what colour they are, parading flags and claiming to stand for something that they don't really care about.
If you think our interaction was odd, you set the tone, I replied in the same way.

KJK and LWS really get under the skin of TRAs. So many posts and so many threads where metaphorical loudspeakers are used to try and drown them out. She must be doing something right to drum up so much ire from aggressive ideologists (including those claiming not to be).

But look! Squirrel!

So am I. The football hooliganism wasn’t faux patriotism, it was faux tribalism to “their team” papering over their desire to have a bloody good punch up with someone. Even now, I hear older footie fans of my team reminisce fondly of their younger days antics, like putting in all the windows of the opposing teams coach, or scrapping with the police. The same fans that complain that footie today is sanitised, even as we have safe, modern stadia and many more women and children coming.

“the English disease” is still going strong in Europe, we’ve managed to divert the hot headed testosterone laden aggressive men to other occupations in the UK. Although I would still avoid parts of Glasgow when there’s an Old Firm match on, but there’s a heck of a lot of sectarianism mixed in that one.

Yes KJK seems to annoy all the right people. Long may she continue

I never developed an interest in watching any sport but rugby and from what I see there, at matches the aggression is generally confined to the pitch. Though tbf I hear some people have issues with rugger buggers at other social occasions.

Surprisingly I've seen some fairly aggressive support for cricket teams in the last couple of years, as pp says, it's faux/proxy tribalism as an excuse for a punch up in lieu of some other conflict of superiority.

Why? The TRA carry lots of flags. What about pro Palestine crowd? They wave lots of flags. So both these groups are also “ flag shaggers? If not, why not?

but the approach of the person who interacted with me was odd and found less.

You were the one who called it odd. I didn’t.

Weird that you are lumping such a wide group of people in with football hooligans of the 70s/80s. It explains some of your comments though. I think you might be employing rather too many vastly sweeping generalisations in your attempt to dismiss people you have decided you don’t like for somewhat arbitrary reasons.

Football hooligans are a scurry (had to look up the collective noun for squirrels)

Yes you did. But only when refering to those holding the union flag.
You didn't answer the question. Do you also refer to those waving trans/progress/palestine flags flag shaggers too.
If not why not?. Because those are causes you agree with right?