A little piece of insight

[Tandora]

Into a topic so woefully misunderstood.

False equivalence. To me, being same-sex attracted is similar to being left-handed or having red hair. It's something that applies to a minority of the population and causes no problem for anyone else

This is exactly the same for being trans. I entirely disagree with you that accepting trans people will have any adverse impact on your life.
People used to believe the same about lefthandedness and having red hair, and being gay btw. It was all just prejudice. As it is here.

What does accepting trans people mean in practical terms?

What do you mean by “accepting trans people”?

I read the title of this thread - "A little piece of insight" - and I bet myself that it was started by a trans woman. It's a very masculine, patronising tone, to me at least.

Still, on the bright side, I won my bet, so I've got some chocolate buttons to eat.

The medical condition is "gender dysphoria". Gender dysphoria is the distress that can result from being trans, particularly where trans people are forced to deny/ repress their experience. Gender dysphoria can be alleviated by affirming trans experience.

The nub of the issue

I am not a trans woman.

@Tandora It’s heartbreaking to think of children going through this. I don’t claim to understand completely (as I’m not trans). But I try to understand as much as possible x

Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I want an answer to this too.

Gender dysphoria can be alleviated by affirming trans experience.

What does this mean in practical terms?

Me too.

The only thing I care about in this whole debacle is the right, in law, for women to determine that only other women can enter their single sex spaces. And only women can compete in women-only sports.

Men are not welcome. That obviously includes men who identify as women, because they're still men.
That's all I care about.
I wasn't put on this earth to sort out men's problems for them.

It means respecting that their experience is real, legitimate, valid, and allowing them to participate in society in a manner which is compatible with their dignity , privacy and wellbeing.

Believe me, Ophelia, we are all trying to understand as much as possible and have been for many long, hard years🙄

What about the dignity, well-being and privacy of the women whose spaces these men want to enter?

It is a lie to tell a child that he or she can be medically and surgically altered to become the sex that he or she is not.

In the same way, it would be a lie to tell a child that he or she can be medically and surgically altered so that he or she is able to fly.

I do not disbelieve that some unfortunate people hold delusional opinions. I do however decline to hold those delusional opinions myself.

Does this extend to allowing biological men into women's single sex spaces?

@Tandora

Did you mean to skip this question that was asked 3 times?

so what toilet do you think a transwoman should use? And what toilet do you think a transman should use?

what ward should they be admitted to for surgery in a hospital?

If there is single sex group counselling, which of the groups should they attend?

thank you.

I would be so good to get a straight answer to that.

Gender dysphoria can be alleviated by affirming trans experience

Eh?
Sorry but I do know what this means
Could you explain what "affirming trans experience" actually means, because it sounds a bit word-salady to me.

I want to know.

what loo.

what hospital ward.

what counselling group.

what sports team.

So you’re saying being trans is a medical condition. Got it. So when people say transpeople are ill, you’re agreeing with them?

I will be more interested in 'respecting' and listening to men's 'real and legitimate experience' when they have a fuck to give about women's.