Trans people frightened to leave homes, says MP

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"Trans people are frightened to go out or use public toilets after the Supreme Court ruling which defined a woman in terms of biological sex, a Labour MP has said."

"Rachel Taylor, who is a member of the women and equality select committee, described the interim guidance put forward by the equality and human rights commission after the ruling as “dangerous” and “incorrect”."

www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/labour-party-conference-2025-live-keir-starmer-latest-news-v7zvhgqhg

Bossy entitlement? Holding court? By that rationale, your queen JKR is male... 🤔

'your queen JKR'

When did I say that?

Many times. Well <checks spreasheet> seven times, actually. That is to say, seven times we've conversed directly via quotes on various threads

You keep a spreadsheet of interactions with people on mumsnet? - that's pretty creepy mate

The creepiness is entirely unsurprising. I mean, it's the point.

Indeed. Imagine believing that critically examining his posts to check for a hidden meaning is a worthwhile use of our time.

Maybe self-awareness is not his forte?

She had a relatively narrow majority of around 5.4% - 2198 votes. I grew in the area. It was a Labour safe seat for years until David Cameron and only returned to Labour in 24.
I still know friends who live in the area, and Labour are not viewed favourably. Neither are the Tories.
Reform went from 0 to 23 seats in the county council elections.
It seems likely that her seat is at risk. I don’t think she is helping herself.

Quite. There seems to be a somewhat baffling expectation that we revolve our whole day around him and his entitled demands.

I say baffling... but we all know it's just plain old fashioned male arrogance and entitlement.

It is. It's representative of a fundamental belief in gender activism: that women aren't really human and obviously have no inner life or thoughts or purpose except men. They serve men, they think about men, everything they do is about men because what else is there? So when they are not doing what a man wants they must obviously be doing it solely to piss the man off because everything will always be all about him. She has no existence beyond him.

And in many activists you see it go into an even less evolved and developed horror and rage that mummy has life and thoughts beyond baby, and meeting baby's needs.

I'm done, and it's largely because of those activists here endlessly niggling and wangling.

I do not care how sad a man is. He doesn't care about the women he wants to exclude, the women who will be unable to use any space, the women who will be strip searched and assaulted by the other men he's held the door open for.

I don't care about the wangling, the guilt, the shaming, a lot of pomo waffle, the clownfishcolonialistheteronormativerightwingfasciatJKKeenewitchSection28 bullshit, I'm bored to the fucking teeth of it and burned right out. Tears and tantrums can fuck off now, women are not your bloody doormat. Find your own space, end of.

Not sure it’s relevant.

What @ArabellaSaurus said.

It really is....

I think it mostly isn't, but when it's a TRA claiming dodgy stats, it's helpful to know if these individuals were killed for reasons completely unlinked to their transness as it undermines the point they are trying to make.

But mostly irrelevant, yes. And not the group most at risk whatever the motivation.

Oh I’m sorry I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were talking about their murders as perpetrators being motivated by their “transness”. I agree it’s more relevant whether a murder is motivated specifically by hatred of a social group. And I think mostly not if you look at the cases more closely.

You might have the situation where one member of a protected group attacked another member of the same group.

Could that attack be motivated by membership of the same protected group?

I’m not sure that situation has happened in the U.K. but I think it has in the US.

ArabellaSaurus · Today 15:12

'According to these figures, there was one trans person murdered in the UK in that time, and a total of nine trans people were murdered in the UK between 2008 and 2017. That’s an average rate of one victim per year.'

We (collective) had a deep dive into this, around the time of the Briana Ghey murder trial. At least one was killed by his also TIM boyfriend, another was a part time cross dressing gay guy and another 2 or 3 were gay, but probably not trans.

We concluded that it's even less than 1 a year.

Oh yes I do remember the TIM boyfriend one now.

I would have expected that a lot of reported violence would be associated with complex personal relationships. Wasn't there a recent domestic violence case where a TIM was attacked with a sword?

Wasn't there a recent domestic violence case where a TIM was attacked with a sword?

There was a case in Brighton in 2024 where a TIM murdered his husband, who had been a TIM but had desisted. Reported by most media as a "wife" murdering "her husband". Rowland-Stuart is the surname.

Apologies, I read the BBC report and misunderstood what had happened

Brighton wife killed husband with samurai sword, court told - BBC News

This ladychap was convicted for dropping his trousers and brandishing a Samurai sword.

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/24990417.isle-wight-trans-woman-drops-trousers-swings-samurai-sword/

This highly disturbing case involved two trans identifying men raping a woman also involved a Samurai sword.

https://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/22989295.cambs-transexual-transvestite-jailed-raping-woman-attacking-friend/

Maybe read it a few times?

Your friend's fiance is a man - however he identifies. Third spaces would be a good idea but the Trans ally and ideology lot have vigorously refused them. They prefer to make women uncomfortable - it's validating.
In this sense, being Trans is a bit like being Hamas. No solution is acceptable except the one that makes women validate men...I'll leave you to think of the Hamas equivalent...