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The Bluestocking - the one where the nights start to draw in

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Boiledbeetle · 13/09/2025 20:45

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5401672-the-autumn-bluestocking-mist-mellow-fruitfulness-and-hot-chocolate

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DeanElderberry · 24/09/2025 20:40

I'm trying to remember things I was told were traybakes that were not - so far recall differences of opinion on slices of cheesecake, cream slices, cream meringues and butterfly buns. Possibly also apple tart.

NotAtMyAge · 24/09/2025 20:40

ErrolTheDragon · 24/09/2025 20:35

Thank goodness tearooms don’t rely on voice recognition software.
The pronunciation of ‘scone’ is obviously regional, but it’s sconn for me.

Me too. I don't remember meeting anyone who said scohn until I went to university down south.

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:40

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 15:11

You can't blame MNHQ for being cautious with links to knitting patterns - I mean, imagine the threat to democracy if this fell into the wrong hands!😁

Or any of these?

Apologies that the conversation has moved on…

I daredn’t add a picture: you’ll have to go to the link, or imagine it. It’s pictures of somethings knitted or crocheted that women don’t have.

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 20:41

DeanElderberry · 24/09/2025 20:40

I'm trying to remember things I was told were traybakes that were not - so far recall differences of opinion on slices of cheesecake, cream slices, cream meringues and butterfly buns. Possibly also apple tart.

A butterfly bun and an apple tart are not traybakes. The very idea!! An apple slice on the other hand …

And don’t even start me on a cream horn. Up pump street. With maeve. 🤣🤣🤣

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 20:44

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:40

Or any of these?

Apologies that the conversation has moved on…

I daredn’t add a picture: you’ll have to go to the link, or imagine it. It’s pictures of somethings knitted or crocheted that women don’t have.

You have to log in to see it. I think maybe that's just as well!
Let's see, something that women don't have.... um... an obsession with football? an inability to notice rings left by mugs on worktops? better pay?😁

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:46

NotAtMyAge · 24/09/2025 20:07

I grew up in east Lancashire in the 50s and 60s and door definitely didn't rhyme with claw. I never had a pronounced Lancashire accent, but even after half a century away from the county, door will still never rhyme with claw.

Hmmm. I moved from the west of the West Riding to West Lancashire at about the same time, and door does rhyme with claw to me, as in the well known and grammatically correct phrase, “Shut door, lass.”

Do door and dour sound the same to you, @NotAtMyAge ? I can only do that in mock-Newcastle.

DeanElderberry · 24/09/2025 20:46

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 20:41

A butterfly bun and an apple tart are not traybakes. The very idea!! An apple slice on the other hand …

And don’t even start me on a cream horn. Up pump street. With maeve. 🤣🤣🤣

An eminent Belfast architect insisted very insistently that they were!

Magpiecomplex · 24/09/2025 20:46

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 20:44

You have to log in to see it. I think maybe that's just as well!
Let's see, something that women don't have.... um... an obsession with football? an inability to notice rings left by mugs on worktops? better pay?😁

A massive sense of entitlement? Not sure how you'd represent that in yarn though.

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 20:50

Magpiecomplex · 24/09/2025 20:46

A massive sense of entitlement? Not sure how you'd represent that in yarn though.

Knitting a massive sense of entitlement is tricky task, it's true, but on the basis of recent examples, my money is on Myrtle to be able do it😁

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 20:51

This thread is doing my heart good.

Magpiecomplex · 24/09/2025 20:51

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 20:50

Knitting a massive sense of entitlement is tricky task, it's true, but on the basis of recent examples, my money is on Myrtle to be able do it😁

Yes, I agree! Over to you, @MyrtleLion.

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:52

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 20:44

You have to log in to see it. I think maybe that's just as well!
Let's see, something that women don't have.... um... an obsession with football? an inability to notice rings left by mugs on worktops? better pay?😁

Close, @MarieDeGournay but not quite, In that case I’ll have to risk a couple of photos. Which to choose from 190?

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Magpiecomplex · 24/09/2025 20:55

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:52

Close, @MarieDeGournay but not quite, In that case I’ll have to risk a couple of photos. Which to choose from 190?

Goodness me! 😱😱😱

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 20:58

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:52

Close, @MarieDeGournay but not quite, In that case I’ll have to risk a couple of photos. Which to choose from 190?

I am so making that crochet cock n balls

NotAtMyAge · 24/09/2025 21:02

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:46

Hmmm. I moved from the west of the West Riding to West Lancashire at about the same time, and door does rhyme with claw to me, as in the well known and grammatically correct phrase, “Shut door, lass.”

Do door and dour sound the same to you, @NotAtMyAge ? I can only do that in mock-Newcastle.

In my bit of heavily industrialised Lancashire, which was the heart of the cotton industry in the past, towns 10 miles apart could have recognisably different accents when I was a child. Door can never sound like claw because it has ends in r not w and doesn't have an a in it. I truly can't get my head round the idea those two words can be thought to rhyme. The phrase you use would only make sense in the old Lancashire dialect I remember my grandmother using with her cousins in the late 50s, when door would sound like dower.

As for your question, door and dour definitely don't sound the same to me. It's the difference between oh and oo, if that makes sense.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/09/2025 21:15

DeanElderberry · 24/09/2025 20:40

I'm trying to remember things I was told were traybakes that were not - so far recall differences of opinion on slices of cheesecake, cream slices, cream meringues and butterfly buns. Possibly also apple tart.

what on earth could be the rationale for thinking any of those items were traybakes?Confused

I’m not sure if there’s a hard and fast definition but surely it’s the ‘tray’ part which matters? Whether it’s a melt then cool recipe or baked, isnt the key that it’s a shallowish tinful which is then cut into rectangles or squares?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/09/2025 21:25

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 20:09

I did not know about this.

I make 15s. And Carmel squares. And Mars bar bites. And top hats. And malteaser fresh bake. And pineapple delights.sometimes The wee cornflake and syrup ones with pastry and jam

and then I wonder why I’m fat.

I knew there was a reason why I am falling in love with you, @Taztoy! Please be mine, and bring alllll the baking with you.

I make a very good cheese scone. The secret is putting in far too much cheese - so much that the scone loses all structural integrity, and becomes a cheese slump. They are not pretty, but they are utterly delicious (she said, modestly). I don’t make them these days - too many carbs for a diabetic - but I think I’ll make some at Christmas. And I’m making a proper, boozy Christmas cake with home made marzipan and icing, and my Snowman and Snowdog figures on top. I’m not going to go bonkers over Christmas, but if I blow the diet a bit, I’m not going to worry.

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 21:29

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/09/2025 21:25

I knew there was a reason why I am falling in love with you, @Taztoy! Please be mine, and bring alllll the baking with you.

I make a very good cheese scone. The secret is putting in far too much cheese - so much that the scone loses all structural integrity, and becomes a cheese slump. They are not pretty, but they are utterly delicious (she said, modestly). I don’t make them these days - too many carbs for a diabetic - but I think I’ll make some at Christmas. And I’m making a proper, boozy Christmas cake with home made marzipan and icing, and my Snowman and Snowdog figures on top. I’m not going to go bonkers over Christmas, but if I blow the diet a bit, I’m not going to worry.

I’m moving in with you @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 21:30

I have a fab recipe I must dig out for a chocolate chip oatmeal cookie. It’s kinda healthy. It nearly has porridge in it.

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 21:30

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 20:58

I am so making that crochet cock n balls

I cut off the name/description of the pattern.
It’s “Penis Stress Ball” and it’s available ‘for free’.

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 21:36

Magpiecomplex · 24/09/2025 20:46

A massive sense of entitlement? Not sure how you'd represent that in yarn though.

Any complicated pattern which someone demands you make, saying ‘I’ll pay for the wool’, especially if they want several to give to others as Christmas presents from them.

Not exclusive to men, though.

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 21:48

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 20:52

Close, @MarieDeGournay but not quite, In that case I’ll have to risk a couple of photos. Which to choose from 190?

Ehhh - thanks but no thanks, I'll take your word for it, ok?😬😁

MarieDeGournay · 24/09/2025 21:51

This is one of those wide-ranging Blackstock-y conversations, isn't it - knitting, recipes, proposals of 'marriage' or more temporary arrangements, dialects, accents, and a touch of the outrageous😄

Taztoy · 24/09/2025 21:53

AsWithGlad · 24/09/2025 21:36

Any complicated pattern which someone demands you make, saying ‘I’ll pay for the wool’, especially if they want several to give to others as Christmas presents from them.

Not exclusive to men, though.

I had that. A friend wanted a blanket for her bed. Double bed. She thought she could give me a tenner and that would cover it.

JanesLittleGirl · 24/09/2025 21:58

DeanElderberry · 24/09/2025 18:55

banjaxed and oxters are all-Ireland, but bokes is real Ulster

Actually, I think oxters are Scandi, so probably all Scotland and anywhere in the Danelaw

Boke and Oxter Old English according to Bernard Share.

Oxters is definitely Dorsetshire.

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