Page 12 | Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 4

IDareSay · 2025-09-07T20:33:52+00:00

These threads have mostly been used to follow the case that has taken place at Westminster Magistrate's Court over the 4th and 5th September, (and will continue on the 29th October), but were created to follow the fallout of Graham's arrest at Heathrow on his return to the UK for this court case last week, and what is allegedly a conspiracy of TRAs to intimidate and harass a number of people, including Graham, with the alleged support of various police services. He is currently on trial for alleged harassment of a trans identified male and criminal damage to the man's phone. The charges stem from a series of events in October 2024 at Battle of Ideas. Part 1 [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5403191-graham-linehan-arrested-on-arrival-at-heathrow?page=1 here]] Part 2 [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5403886-graham-linehan-arrested-on-arrival-at-heathrow-part-2?page=1 here]] Part 3 [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5404988-graham-linehan-arrested-on-arrival-at-heathrow-part-3?page=1 here]] Graham's account of the arrest [[https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/i-just-got-arrested-again here]] You can support his Substack [[https://substack.com/@grahamlinehan here]] Or buy him a coffee [[https://buymeacoffee.com/glinner here]] Free Speech Union are running a fundraiser to support a claim against the Met in reference to the Heathrow arrest. Just search FSU and Graham Linehan fundraiser and it should be easy to find. At the time of posting it has reached 64% of its stretch target. The FSU have managed to get the bail condition that @Glinner must not post on X removed, so he is now freely posting on there again. Most of the mainstream media have reported on the case, but none have covered it as well as Nick Wallis. Follow him on X for live posting from the court again on 29th October. You can support Nick here (posted Friday 5th September): ^"I am deeply grateful to everyone who has seen fit to bung me the cost of a coffee, a pint or even a bloody London pint since I found out I was able to come back today. If you think you can afford to make a small donation, there’s more info here:"^ [[https://t.co/KDqCAYRGEi https://store29806256.company.site]]

Tallisker · 09/09/2025 12:25

I think Sarah Phillimore (sp?) had to fight and fight to get one or more of these reports removed from her record. My memory ain’t what it used to be.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 12:36

Thingybob · 09/09/2025 12:18

I've only just read the Wings over Scotland article and outrageous doesn't cover it but what can we do?

Is it worth writing to our MPs to maybe get questions raised in PMQ?

Write to your MP??

Well Labour won't want to draw attention to it.
The Greens think its absoluetely fair game
The LDs are still avoiding talking about the subject
No one listens to the Conservatives anymore anyway (and some are still TWAW
The SNP are, the SNP
And Reform don't have many MPs.

Nope its going to have to be through the courts and the media I think unfortunately.

Susanne Moore has retweeted Helen now. I'm waiting for it to start to go viral.

Charabanc · 09/09/2025 12:36

The problem is that these fuckwits can wield these accusations without it costing them anything, because they get financial aid with the paperwork and represent themselves in hearings (ie don't pay for lawyers), they are "litigants in person".

It's not about winning the process, for them. It's about causing their victims financial and emotional stress and harm. And they do it over and over again.

The process is the punishment.

Mollyollydolly · 09/09/2025 12:38

I can't get over that Helen Joyce article. Yes this feels like a tipping point but upthread someone said he's still ranting away on BlueSky this morning. What will it take to put an end to it?

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 12:39

Charabanc · 09/09/2025 12:36

The problem is that these fuckwits can wield these accusations without it costing them anything, because they get financial aid with the paperwork and represent themselves in hearings (ie don't pay for lawyers), they are "litigants in person".

It's not about winning the process, for them. It's about causing their victims financial and emotional stress and harm. And they do it over and over again.

The process is the punishment.

You know what will happen don't you? It'll be used as an excuse to remove legal aid in future...

... thats what pisses me off.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 13:04

Mollyollydolly · 09/09/2025 12:38

I can't get over that Helen Joyce article. Yes this feels like a tipping point but upthread someone said he's still ranting away on BlueSky this morning. What will it take to put an end to it?

Well...

Freda Wallace (4hrs ago)
This isn’t going to go well for them 😂 the silly bastards.
Image of a thread from 2023 where glinner comments on some old photos of Freda (which Freda is recopying himself - including said pictures)

Then theres the below tweet (photo), which looks very much like fighting talk.

Seen Police
(ongoing thread with another poster that started yesterday)
Here, the Daily Mail absolutely boils the piss of the gender critters by correctly gendering the unstoppable Freda Wallace. Looks like we’re getting through to them: intentional deadnaming and repeated wilful misgendering can amount criminal harassment. Well done Daily Mail!

Moontheloon69 haha
No this looks bad,especially after the Linehan crap

Seen Police
What would you suggest?

Moontheloon69 haha
Leave it.

Seen Police
Why? What will happen if we do this?

Moontheloon69 haha
Not get headlines like this. The police aren't on our side.this just enrages the public even more.Most of the public doesn't see being dead named as all that important.

Seen Police (in the last few mins)
So you propose we just allow it to become normalised? We disagree.

Lynsay generally is having a full scale meltdown since Helen tweeted her piece on being targetted by him.

Seen Police Official Open Public Network (19mins ago)
(in response to a bluesky saying 'Good Grief. Watson tried to get Helen Joyce done for sexual assault')
No. Helen Joyce is an idiot when it comes to the law, as well as gender. No such offence was reported and we expect a retraction and apology.

And

Seen Police Official Open Public Network (25mins ago)
The police know we are in the right, that targeted harassment of trans people has been going on unchecked now for over 6 years. They know the crime reports are legitimate, legally competent, non-vexatious and the reported offences well-evidenced. Yet the police, and the CPS are stuck in a state of terror, on one hand, remembering their oath and wanting to offer a fair and equal police service to all victims of crime, yet too afraid to do so with respect to trans people as they are terrified of the hue & cry from the monopolised far-right aligned media.

And

Seen Police Official Open Public Network (46mins ago)
You’re not a journalist Mrs Helen Joyce and a senior court deemed you totally incompetent on gender.

This latest conduct by you 👇continues your campaign of harassing trans people by misgendering them and deadnaming them.

Targeted harassment of a person because of their protected characteristics isn’t protected as diffuse, ‘generalised political speech’ or by Article 10. We will update the crime report.

You will be stopped, madam. We will never stop, and ‘good luck’ proving vexatiousness when you won’t even obey the law of the land on case law that you win, such as FORSTATER which made it abundantly clear that repeated (and obviously intentional) misgendering may be criminal harassment.

We are free speech advocates, idiots like you have placed free speech in peril by abusing it by so blatantly, crossing the lines of the accepted thresholds of a democratic society into harassment every single day.

You bloody fool - you do the government’s job for them. The ‘gender critical’ ideology is demonstrably no longer WORIADS - Worthy Of Respect In A Democratic Society and we look forward to seeing you in a courtroom to thrash this out once and for all.

This looks a lot like Lydsay sees the goal here as overturning Forstater by 'proving' that being gender critical is harassment. I am liking the interesting take on what qualifies as free speech advocacy in this.

Meanwhile Sarah Philimore is flat out asking them to take her to court in addition to JKR's gauntlet yesterday.

So I expect we will probably see some developments fairly soon as it doesn't really look much like anyone is backing down at all.

Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 4

yourhairiswinterfire · 09/09/2025 13:04

It's outrageous. Would the police act like this for any other reports?

"We know there's absolutely zero evidence that you burgled X's house, and we haven't even bothered questioning you about it, but X, who seems to have an unhinged obsession with you, has said the burglar was you and is threatening to take us to court if we don't do what they want, so we've put that you're a burglar on your criminal record".

ErrolTheDinosaur · 09/09/2025 13:06

The thing I don’t understand is why it seems various police forces crumble under the threat of a judicial review when they’ve made a fair and rational decision not to act on these ridiculous reports of ‘crimes’. I’m sure JRs must create a lot of unwanted work but surely the police know that bullies need to be stood up to?

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 13:06

I am getting the distinct impression that they fully intend to go after Helen Joyce again and probably will take the bait from JKR from that.

They can't stop themselves. They have to double down cos they just don't have the capacity to stop it.

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 09/09/2025 13:08

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 12:02

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/42/schedule/1/part/I/chapter/5

Article 6 Right to a fair trial

1 In the determination of his civil rights and obligations or of any criminal charge against him, everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law. Judgment shall be pronounced publicly but the press and public may be excluded from all or part of the trial in the interest of morals, public order or national security in a democratic society, where the interests of juveniles or the protection of the private life of the parties so require, or to the extent strictly necessary in the opinion of the court in special circumstances where publicity would prejudice the interests of justice.

2 Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law.

3 Everyone charged with a criminal offence has the following minimum rights:

(a) to be informed promptly, in a language which he understands and in detail, of the nature and cause of the accusation against him;

(b) to have adequate time and facilities for the preparation of his defence;

(c) to defend himself in person or through legal assistance of his own choosing or, if he has not sufficient means to pay for legal assistance, to be given it free when the interests of justice so require;

(d) to examine or have examined witnesses against him and to obtain the attendance and examination of witnesses on his behalf under the same conditions as witnesses against him;

(e) to have the free assistance of an interpreter if he cannot understand or speak the language used in court.

Just y'know saying.

Thing is, clearly, there was no need to notify Helen, or offer her a fair trial.

Because she is a she.

The law clearly states "he" has those rights.

So, if she just changed her pronouns, she'd have had all the rights she needed

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/09/2025 13:09