Women's 'Private Spaces'

[Howseitgoin]

Clearly private spaces for women are considered a necessity by many due to a propensity for male sexual violence. Given this threat is much greater by orders of magnitude in the work place as opposed to public bathrooms, isn't it inconsistent not to demand private spaces there as well?
Thoughts?

"No, I don't, I categorize women on which type of gamete their body developed to make (with the usual caveat to DSDs) everything else doesn't matter. You keep banging on about feminine temperament and shopping and stuff."

In practice not theory was the point….And yoy know that. Now be a big boy/girl & answer the question honestly.

It is difficult to think of anything that could be more relevant to the issue of whether allowing men like Katie Dolatowski to use women's toilets puts women and girls at risk.

Is Katie Dolatowski the trans paedophile a woman or not?

'I’m interested in the idea that you think swathes of women are reading your words and realising that men can indeed be women.'

It is compelling stuff, isn't it? I mean, reading these posts takes me right back to conversations in Australia. Not about this topic, but the thinking is all the same.

And yes.. apparently, swathes of women are reading this choral service. OP is doing an outstanding job and all 'single handedly' supporting those posts.

Have I missed what the references to Australia are about, @Helleofabore ? I’ve skipped chunks of thread due to have a life outside my iPad 🫣

So, @Howseitgoin Would you like to give your number ?

How many additional women and girls being attacked or harmed in anyway in female single sex spaces are acceptable to you before we can expect to exclude ALL male people above the age of 8 years old?

I can make it bigger, you seem to be missing several poster's very pertinent questions.

@Howseitgoin just because you've cultivated a sexist view of women, doesn't make it universal. Why speak as if it is?

The 'Bro' poster tells us they are from Australia. They have been very pleased with that fact while telling us all what is what about UK law.

Humans can identify sex in other humans on sight, regardless of how they present themselves.

However you talked about behavioural associations. What do you mean?

To be fair, penguins can’t say they are penguins. However we don’t need them to. They may have no behavioural associations with penguins, having been brought up by Geese, but they will still be penguins.

Their physiology would be penguin but not their personality. See where this is going?

"I’m interested in the idea that you think swathes of women are reading your words and realising that men can indeed be women. I find it unlikely, personally."

Not all women are closed thinkers. That you assume everyone is like you is very telling.

Of course there are those that will never be convinced regardless of cold hard facts but you can still penetrate their consciousness over time. Undermining indoctrination isn't an impossibility.

And again you have deflected from the point.

My point stands. The judge accepted the statistics were accurate.

You can keep deflecting all you want.

haha! “bro and you don’t got nothin’ made me laugh!

You didn’t ignore KD nor did you misspeak. You correctly sexed KD, congrats on that btw - most useful contribution you’ve “broadcast”

I am afraid that you commenting on a case contradicts your claim to have ignored the case.

And stop with the DARVO.

Or like consent, safeguarding, legitimate discrimination and so on, do you not understand DARVO.

No. I think you should do further research on the very numbers you have been relying on over two threads.
If you are relying on it, you should have confidence in your evidence. I posted a long post about those statistics, yet you keep dismissing other people's evidence as being unreliable. I don't even think that you read more than top lines or read the information that suits your obvious biased view. Perhaps it is time that you did your own work, rather than relying on others like Allsop.

I have researched the numbers & there's nothing that renders Allsop analysis flawed.

Their physiology would be penguin but not their personality. See where this is going?

No idea. The penguin would still be a penguin.

Why not just explain the behaviours you think are common to women?

Mate, I’ve been on here terfing it up since 2014. We’ve seen it all. All your shite arguments and data. Go back and read older threads. We don’t need JKR to “radicalise” us, we are the OG group. It’s likely JK, awesome though she is, informed herself about this issue at least in part by reading MN threads. Maybe she even has an account here, being a woman, and a mum.

What are these 'cold hard facts' that tell us that men can be women? Do tell us more.

And what is a 'penguin personality'?

Goodness, this is only one post of yours, but I have so many questions ...

Oh and has @Howseitgoin amswered this yet? Here it is again, nice and big.

He’s quite clearly a men’s rights activist. These type of men correctly see the rise of gender identity ideology as a massive fuck you to women, and boy do they want a piece of it.

I really recommend you go back and read the thread again and find the post I am referring to. In this instance, I was not referring an Allsop analysis.

I mean, I understand that you need to detach sentences from the contextual post as part of your argument defence tactics, but you really shouldn't. Because you are now getting yourself confused again although you will no doubt deflect, DARVO or whatever to try to cover that confusion.

I really recommend that you use the features that MN provide for keeping track of the discussion. It is your discussion thread after all.

Some men believe women are so stupid that any half arsed argument they make is infinitely superior to what women will say.

I think 2015 was when Stonewall started campaigning for self ID?

To be fair the OP does seem to oppose that, so according to the standards of e.g Nicola Sturgeon, is also a TERF.

I’m still not clear what the OP is arguing for, and after all these pages I suspect they don’t know either.

This is hilarious-
“Of course there are those that will never be convinced regardless of cold hard facts but you can still penetrate their consciousness over time. Undermining indoctrination isn't an impossibility.”

Let that penetrate! <waves to India>

oh yes. Howsa has admitted that Howsa made an error.

While trying to deflect by saying they ignored the case, which was an obvious falsehood because they chose to comment on the case multiple time and leverage it to try to convince female people that they should not expect single sex spaces, and then Howsa resorted to DARVO.

I know, right?

I mean, this thread just keeps on giving and giving. But apparently we cannot spot a misogynist.

Lots of projection from Howse. Lots.