Rylan

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TV and radio presenter Rylan Clark has called for there to be more stories about transgender people amid a “mass wave of hate”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rylan-clark-russell-tovey-lgbt-pride-trans-b2810522.html

Hmm they’re probably gay too. Autogynephilia is defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female. I don’t think they’re straight men.. either way let’s not get bogged down - any person with a penis, can either go in the men’s.

I completely agree with this ^

I think that is a bit unfair.
He did a programme with Rob Rinder, The Grand Tour, and totally got the art, far more than Rob.
He is incredibly clever, hence the school scholarship he earned.
I am not saying I agree with what he is saying here at all but to say he’s not a deep thinker seems a bit erroneous

He’s got his fan base to think about I suppose. I think he’s self-serving.

Excellent, witty presenter though, incredible charisma.

It’s a shame.

Oh I didn’t know this 😔

Yeah... But they don't matter . It's not cool or controversial to be blind or Buddhist. We are only meant to care about the rainbow people because it looks good for a virtue signal . Sometimes I do think to myself , with these shouty virtue signallers, what would happen if they were in a room when an argument broke out between a devout Muslim man and a non binary lesbian woman ?

My god - they wouldn't know who to do 'shouty shouty, jumpy jumpy, pointy pointy ' to. They'd be chewing their knuckles sweating deciding where they stand for the most pats on the backs. Then they'd have to think what would look best on their 'feed' : either #savedamuslimslife #youreallragingislamaphobicsexceptme. Or #rainbowohmygodstoodupforhomophobiatoday #hero #allyoulotareabhorrent

lol, if the stories were there they’d be being published daily by the BBC and Guardian, unfortunately the ‘community’ is a group of navel gazing, feckless, misfits who are far too interested in themselves to do anything newsworthy like raise funds for a worthy cause or discover a cure for cancer.

I think there should be more storylines on tv about gender non-conforming people not living life according to stereotypes. But not thinking they have changed sex.
It would help young people feeling left out of a very gender rigid society to see people living a diverse life and expanding ideas of masculinity and femininity without having to actually go trans and medicalise themselves and make us all enter a fairytale world of make believe.

I think it's perfectly possible to be able to pass exams without having the necessary critical skills to think beyond your own narrow view of the world - especially when you're viewing it through a male lens.

@SirChenjins his take on The Grand Tour was the complete opposite of someone who is not a deep thinker.
As I mentioned I am not agreeing with what he said, but I find it totally wrong for someone to criticise someone for being something they are not just because it suits the narrative of the thread

Spot on ! I think people used to though didn't they ? 😵‍💫 We had short haired footballers that were girls at school and grungey girls and pink haired choker wearing boys.

Ok, let's not lie, there were whispers: usually along the lines of "I think she's a lesbian" or "I bet he's gay " ... But ya know - such is life. You'll always get that. I think the boys and girls of those days knew how to shrug it off and were probably all the stronger for it.

But, nobody ever thought butch , man u kit wearing, football mad Kayleigh was a boy.

"I think there is space to show real stories, real trans people."

He should watch Marycate Delvey's series Listen To Trans People. Those real stories are quite something.

Someone should point him in the direction of Marycate Delvey’s X account. Plenty of Trans representation there.

Awww, shame. Despite his ridiculousness I’ve always quite liked Rylan. This is very disappointing.

There's no scholarships at the school he went to

“And now you hear about so many safe spaces disappearing for so many queer people, and the importance of that, of somewhere where you can relax and be amongst the people who understand you.
“The disappearances of those is dangerous.”

In isolation, that could be a gender critical quote, commenting on transbians pestering women in lesbian bars and dating apps, and transmen going to gay saunas and clubs with their mastectomy scars and vulvas or phalloplasties and then being all sad when the gay men don’t want to shag them.

But sadly that’s obviously not what was meant! Ironic really how two arguments from opposing sides can sound exactly the same!

GCSEs?

Is that the definition of a deep thinker now?

I really like Rylan’s presenting and disagreeing with him on something doesn’t change my view of him. A bit tired of metaphorically putting anyone who makes any statement that FWR doesn’t like in the stocks. The whole point of campaigning on structural things like the legal definition of women/ female categories should be to allow room for different views within the law, including views that the law itself may need changing.

That’s like saying we should accept misogyny. It’s not that FWR don’t like it. It’s that it’s misogyny. Its fundamental. It’s unacceptable. It’s thinking it’s ok to remove women’s rights in favour of men’s rights. And we don’t want that from anyone, do we? It’s disappointing when a person we thought got it, either doesn’t get it (doubtful), or is too afraid to tell the truth because of the hideous TRAs etc.

This sums up everything I think too.

He’s as thick as two short planks. I love radio 2 but I put my own music on when he’s doing his programme.

He’s not well, all that preening in the mirror and the glare from his teeth reflected back into his eyes have burnt substantial holes in his brain.

Rylan was lovely to Lucy Spraggan and kept this quiet for years until she wanted it out in the open. I cannot imagine he would want harm to come to any woman.
https://news.sky.com/story/rylan-clark-opens-up-about-horrendous-period-after-rape-of-fellow-x-factor-star-lucy-spraggan-13065339