NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #34

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It resumed on 16 July and the last day of evidence will be 28 July and then there will be 2 days of submissions from counsel meaning that the hearing will end on 30 July.

The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton gave evidence from Thursday 6 February to Wednesday 12 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely was obtainable by sending an email request to [email protected] by 5pm on Wednesday 9 July. Detailed instructions were provided here:

drive.google.com/file/d/16-9POEZ7yHWUr6EmbfquJZO18Gv78bSm/view

The hearing is being live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005 and tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.ph/WSSjg.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Links to previous threads #1 to #29 can be found in the header of thread #30.

Thread 30: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5375337-nhs-fife-tries-to-sil
ence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-30
Thread 31: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5375819-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-31
Thread 32: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5376072-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-32
Thread 33: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5376608-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-33

Lurker here who is grateful for the education I am getting on these threads. 59.

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yes, a skelf is a splinter

I love celery. I go through a bunch every 2 days.
Cucumber on the other hand.... Yuk

Same

Late checking in but it seems not late for the start of public proceedings.

I was going to say sneck too.

As for Upton saying he was told he could use the women's Changing Room, no, his own testimony says that he was going to as was his right. What would have happened if someone had tried to stop him at that point? Well an ET with Upton taking Fife to court perhaps?

Snib - the wee metal thing on the back of a lock which has a button that you can push down to fix the sliding bit of the lock in place and keep it there so that people can get in without a key

'Just come straight in when you get here, the door's on the snib'.

I've got some Hoggs of Fife boots and, even at size 5, they are seriously big, tough boots. Big Sond's boots must be the size, and weight, of concrete building blocks.

My celery gets whizzed with onions and carrots, dolloped into the big holes in silicone muffin tray and bunged in the freezer. If I remember I pop out the frozen lumps and store them in a freezer bag.

Hey I wouldn't argue it may well be pronounced differently in different parts of Scotland.
The West / East thing baffles me, the accent seems to change between Caldercrux and Blackridge, if you know the A89 or the train line.

Oh yes, thanks for this. I use my local library all the time and am forever telling people about the digital content you can access that way, whilst completely forgetting about it myself! So very much appreciate the reminder too!

In Ireland we call spring onions scallions ( Skal yons). Only quare posh people say spring onions.

Given the qualifications required….

Yes, I'm 59... only one month away, though, from my bus pass and my teaching pension.

I am another one late to these threads. I really appreciate all the work done by others who have awakened the rest of us to the threats posed by gender ideology and how captured organisations are.

@Shedmistress asked "Who is in charge exactly"?
Depends.. . . .
Are you buying or selling?

It was ‘leave it on the snick’ according to my Lancashire-born DM.
Snig is allegedly either a small eel or ‘to drag a log along the ground with a chain’ Down Under. Its also a bugger to type in without autocorrect making it sing.

That was my assumption! (Fellow smoggy)

Do you have 'skelp' for a slap? It's from the Gaelic so you might have it over there.
We [in Ireland] have snip/snib for 'the door is on the snip'.
We call spring onions 'scallions' as they do in the USA.

56 & reporting from Dublin

Ireland got rid of the the fawning over men in dresses to replace it with fawning over men in dresses. We also have the horror of self id.

All snuck in by stealth at the same time marriage equality.

I work for an organisation of 15k people. We have a new policy of use the changing rooms you feel most comfortable in.

I’m off today but have a hospital appointment later so you’ll keep me company while I’m waiting.

Yes @MarieDeGournay skelp for a slap in my part of Scotland

I had no idea snib was purely Scottish. I do like sneck and I'll try to use it!

My favourite Scottish word that I didn't know was Scottish is "outwith". I use it often, because it's very useful, and it took ten years of living in SE England before someone told me that nobody there knew what it meant. 😂

Not round here. I had to wait till I was 66 for a bus pass (& haven't bothered applying).

Skelp yes. And skud. You get skelped on the erse, or skuddit on the lug.