arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness

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Montgomery Toms has been arrested for wearing a sign showing the pink & blue stripes of trans=mental illness.

Arrested. What has happened to free speech in this country?

https://x.com/ESpeaksFreely/status/1941518454466748461

Was it “just an opinion” when Stonewall, formerly the UK’s leading LGB organisation, latterly the UK’s leading trans organisation, redefined homosexuality (“A term to describe someone who is attracted to someone of the same sex or gender. The term ‘gay’ is now more generally used”), and when their CEO said that same-sex attraction was a refuse akin to racism?

Sorry not a popular opinion but I am gender critical and I can see how that sign would have been upsetting to people caught up in this ideology, and I don't think it was kind or respectful. And yes I know TRA are often not kind or respectful but doesn't mean others should stoop to the same level.

But agree disproportionate to arrest him.

He's my son and full of courage and still stuck in Charing x police station

Yes. Opinions are still not facts. Just because something is positioned as a fact, does not necessarily make it so.

they’ll only delete it if it’s reported

I'm sure it will be.

Oooh you’re hard.

And yes I know TRA are often not kind or respectful but doesn't mean others should stoop to the same level.

Less 'often not kind or respectful' and more sort of death threaty, really.

And you don't see women's rights campaigners toting about similar signs, because you know, we're not the death threaty sort.

narrow minded, provocative Terf.

Think I've found my next username!

I think trans identities are usually tied into mental illness.

I think displaying a sign saying that at a Pride event is unnecessarily offensive and entirely ineffective (possibly counterproductive) in solving anything.

It's like holding up a sign saying GOD DOESN'T EXIST at a Christian funeral. There's a time and a place for such sentiments and this isn't it.

There does seem to be a bit of a double standard here with the kinds of placards the trans lot get away with, but I'm not confident that the arrest was out of place.

On the other topic, let's not be thick (/propagandistic) and pretend everybody who is opposed to what Israel are doing is a perfect little saint who couldn't possibly do anything bad.

How do we protect potentially same sex attracted young people, possibly ASD, unless we call out how harmful this ideology is? Pride is about gay & lesbian people. Transexuals have hitched a ride an it’s not sustainable

please keep us posted about what’s happening. he’s a brave man

I'm not getting the deliberately provocative equals arrestable offence argument.
Surely statements like 'suck my girl cock' are deliberately provocative to both GC people and 'trad' lesbians?
Do they just have to grin and bare it?

The kind of 'unnecessarily offensive' behaviour such as the Cabaret Against Hate shouting abuse at women attending the largest annual grassroots feminist conference in Europe?

That sort of double standard?

Wouldn't it be like turning up to a women's march with a 'suck my girl cock' t-shirt?

You can see why people might think someone wearing a provocative t-shirt at pride might be looking for a row or to create a bit of unrest. I'm not sure if the arrest was justifiable personally but the context of policing a tense public arrest I can see why they would want to remove him from the event.

Exactly. They must be so proud of themselves. I'll rest easy tonight knowing the country is safer following his arrest.

They do that too. I can link you to pictures.

And the difference is that they aren’t arrested for it.

Oh yeah publicly deriding minorities at their own celebrations is the definition of courage 🙄

He was trying to cause trouble. He's in the right place.

Here's a wee picture of some lovely TRA's at a Let Women Speak event in Glasgow. Pretty mild language by TRA standards really but always with the shite signs.

You'd think they'd club together for a pack of new pens at least. Doesn't have to be Sharpies - Tesco does a nice range.

Edited to add - fairly certain these fuds weren't arrested. By 11 officers.

But lots of trans people are gay so why shouldnt they be at Pride?

If hateful people didn't keep attacking trans people such as is seen on this board then there wouldn't need to be a retaliation. Just let them get on with their lives and enjoy Pride which includes the T