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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness

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happydappy2 · 05/07/2025 16:50

Montgomery Toms has been arrested for wearing a sign showing the pink & blue stripes of trans=mental illness.

Arrested. What has happened to free speech in this country?

https://x.com/ESpeaksFreely/status/1941518454466748461

https://x.com/ESpeaksFreely/status/1941518454466748461

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Greyskybluesky · 06/07/2025 12:24

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2025 12:19

Oh no… not its own Wikipedia entry!

😂

Waitwhat23 · 06/07/2025 12:25

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2025 12:19

Oh no… not its own Wikipedia entry!

Jim Carrey Omg GIF

The horror! The horror!

(Goes to lie down with a cold cloot on forehead)

RufustheFactualReindeer · 06/07/2025 12:25

Doesnt everything have its own wikipedia entry? 😳

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2025 12:26

Yes, isn’t that kind of the point of the site?

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 12:36

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 00:30

Research will go on into why people are trans, in the same way we discovered more about and therefore accepted gay people. It will happen. Give it a few years. People have been trans through history, it's not going away so might as well get used to it. It may not have always been called trans but if you just do even a Wikipedia search on trans people equivalents through history you will find many many examples

We have research on why misogynists exist. It doesn't change the fact that females are human and deserve human rights.

And wikipedia is never used as a source by anything in schools or universities for a reason. It's head moderator is a trans activist also, and there are so many entries that are full of lies and misinformation.

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 12:39

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 00:33

Other researches don't agree with his theory. At all. You can't take just one mans view, you need to look at several

Trans activists don't agree with it. But actual scientists and psychiatrists do. It's a fact that AGP is real and exists. Denying it is real is like denying gravity is real.

CassOle · 06/07/2025 12:39

RE Montgomery Toms and his arrest in the OP. I found this update on Nitter.

nitter.poast.org/MontgomeryToms/status/1941815378558021882#m

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 06/07/2025 12:39

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2025 12:19

Oh no… not its own Wikipedia entry!

Grin anything but that!

kudos if you understood what the fuck bee was on about - i sure as heck don't

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 12:47

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 00:51

Right but because some agree and some disagree doesn't mean either is right. Give it more time and it will be more understood that certain people are just a certain way and should be free to be so just like gay and lesbian people. It's all an expression of personality

Right but because some agree and some disagree doesn't mean either is right.

But that is not what you originally said, is it? You stated it was 'debunked'. Now you say it "doesn't mean either is right". You can't even stick to your argument. So which is it? It's been debunked? Or that some agree and some disagree doesn't mean either is right?

Give it more time and it will be more understood that certain people are just a certain way and should be free to be so just like gay and lesbian people. It's all an expression of personality

That's wishful thinking. I and others believe, and can make the case based on the facts of the trajectory that the trans mens rights movement is losing the war, that the more time passes people understand how hateful, how dangerous and how toxic and misogynistic the trans ideology is. There is a reason they are losing this war and more and more psychiatrists, doctors and specialists are speaking out against it.

In 20 years time trans ideology will have lost power and will basically cease to exist. You can take that to the back. That is the trajectory of it.

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 13:02

Datun · 06/07/2025 10:35

Tell that to the five or six thousand posts on this very site from women who are married to the exact men described by Ray Blanchard.

AGP has not been debunked.

And Julia Serrano certainly isn't credible as a debunker of the notion that men get off on fetishising women's oppression.

While I never really believed the cliche about women being good for only one thing, I found that that sentiment kept creeping into my fantasies. I would imagine myself being sold into sex slavery and having strange men take advantage of me.

It's called forced feminisation and it's not really about sex. It is about turning the humiliation you feel into pleasure, transforming the loss of male privilege into the best fuck ever.

(As an aside the logic vacuum continues, with his best fuck ever, not really being about sex 🙄)

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Yes. @MoodyAndBlue : "I found that that sentiment kept creeping into my fantasies. I would imagine myself being sold into sex slavery and having strange men take advantage of me.
It's called forced feminisation and it's not really about sex. It is about turning the humiliation you feel into pleasure"

is the very definition of AGP. You used an AGP to debunk AGP. How does that work out?

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 13:10

BeeSouriante · 06/07/2025 11:52

No doubt arrested and de-arrested for breach of the peace, this would be the norm for this far right narcissist.

It's so weird that you people larp as women's rights activists whilst sitting with the far / religious right and using misogynistic hate sites.

It's almost like...

No what is weird is that you larp as women yet you sit with the violent rape-threatening misogynist bigots who hate women.

It's almost like...

JamieCannister · 06/07/2025 13:11

TheCatsTongue · 05/07/2025 17:22

Police, a rare sight in London, have finally made an arrest, not for knife crime, sexual assault, physical homophobic assault, demanding Jews be killed, but for someone saying gender dysphoria is a mental health issue.

That isn't true. he was arrested for saying that all trans - including transmaxxers, dishonest predators, autogynephiles and transvestic fetishists - not just those with gender dysphoria (is this even real?) - are mentally ill.

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 13:14

BeeSouriante · 06/07/2025 11:53

(KF, if anyone pretending to be confused, the one you moaned about when it was taken for over 2000 posts..and is so bad has it's own wikipedia entry).

WiKiPeDiA... That site so full of shit that schools and universities refuse to allow it to be used as a source for anything. And that has a misogynistic woman-hating trans activist as it's main moderator. Good on ya! (facepalm)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2025 13:15

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 13:02

Yes. @MoodyAndBlue : "I found that that sentiment kept creeping into my fantasies. I would imagine myself being sold into sex slavery and having strange men take advantage of me.
It's called forced feminisation and it's not really about sex. It is about turning the humiliation you feel into pleasure"

is the very definition of AGP. You used an AGP to debunk AGP. How does that work out?

I’ve known a “trans woman” personally who said pretty much the exact same thing, fantasised about living in the Middle East and being forced to submit and wear a burka etc. It’s a thing, some of these males claim it means they are women as women like 50 shades etc.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2025 13:16

JamieCannister · 06/07/2025 13:11

That isn't true. he was arrested for saying that all trans - including transmaxxers, dishonest predators, autogynephiles and transvestic fetishists - not just those with gender dysphoria (is this even real?) - are mentally ill.

Yes, tbf it’s an inaccurate statement.

happydappy2 · 06/07/2025 13:23

CassOle · 06/07/2025 12:39

RE Montgomery Toms and his arrest in the OP. I found this update on Nitter.

nitter.poast.org/MontgomeryToms/status/1941815378558021882#m

Thank you, it is extraordinary his bail condition is not to enter Westminster….this is quite some police over reach.

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Waitwhat23 · 06/07/2025 13:30

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 12:08

https://x.com/joss_prior/status/1532511819583062025?t=ZEtUZpG7fQBGsIm3BgP5bA&s=09
Your dear Helen Joyce has a lovely view of trans people I must say and how she would like to 'reduce' the number of trans people.
Anyway I'm off to get some brain bleach, this board is sickening, I feel sorry for you all really, it must be awful inside your heads. Off to find more pleasant pastures.

Oh, I know, I know. This board probably is 'sickening' to TRA's who don't like things like evidence, links to research and articles (not Wikipedia - seriously?), and the receipts from the many, many incidences of violence against women (both verbal and physical) by men who really, really hate women.

It must be quite a bit of cognitive dissonance to deal with when you've come over from the heavily curated pastures of Reddit to be faced with reality...and not like it.

Better to scold the women pointing it out rather than the people actually doing said violence. Or those ignoring the law in order to access single sex spaces they are not entitled to access.

Etc etc.

Farewell though and we wish you well in those happy pastures of ignorance.

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 13:37

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 12:08

https://x.com/joss_prior/status/1532511819583062025?t=ZEtUZpG7fQBGsIm3BgP5bA&s=09
Your dear Helen Joyce has a lovely view of trans people I must say and how she would like to 'reduce' the number of trans people.
Anyway I'm off to get some brain bleach, this board is sickening, I feel sorry for you all really, it must be awful inside your heads. Off to find more pleasant pastures.

This "Joss Prior", @MoodyAndBlue ?

You really do use strange sources. That ironically, prove our points. Not yours. And wanting to reduce the "condition" of trans is not the same as wanting to reduce people existing, any more than wanting to reduce the incidence of schizophrenia means we don't want people who have schizophrenia to no longer 'exist'. So, nice try, but you like the AGP Joss didn't use critical thinking.

What is truly sickening is your hateful misogyny and your need to cowardly flee when all your lies are called out. As usual, you all run when your arguments are debunked.

arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness
youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/07/2025 15:20

EasternStandard · 05/07/2025 18:57

It’s U.K. law not to support a terrorist group

Which is why they've been declared as such, to put a dent in the huge public support for the Palestinians

PriOn1 · 06/07/2025 16:16

TeenToTwenties · 05/07/2025 17:28

I think that is encouraging trouble at a pride event. Unnecessarily provocative.

Do you think the same about all the transactivists that attend women’s events, shout over them and carry slogans wishing death and other unpleasantries upon them? Why do you think none of those people are ever arrested, while a man with a billboard talking to people is?

TeenToTwenties · 06/07/2025 16:53

PriOn1 · 06/07/2025 16:16

Do you think the same about all the transactivists that attend women’s events, shout over them and carry slogans wishing death and other unpleasantries upon them? Why do you think none of those people are ever arrested, while a man with a billboard talking to people is?

No I think they should be arrested and charged with inciting hatred.

PriOn1 · 06/07/2025 16:55

MintIceCream2 · 06/07/2025 13:37

This "Joss Prior", @MoodyAndBlue ?

You really do use strange sources. That ironically, prove our points. Not yours. And wanting to reduce the "condition" of trans is not the same as wanting to reduce people existing, any more than wanting to reduce the incidence of schizophrenia means we don't want people who have schizophrenia to no longer 'exist'. So, nice try, but you like the AGP Joss didn't use critical thinking.

What is truly sickening is your hateful misogyny and your need to cowardly flee when all your lies are called out. As usual, you all run when your arguments are debunked.

Another not noticing there’s a long thread before quoting an early post moment from me there!

But quoting Serrano as debunking AGP and then quoting the fragrant Joss Prior for something really takes the biscuit! 🤣

Helleofabore · 06/07/2025 17:04

FeistyCat · 06/07/2025 09:38

In all my years on this, I have never, NEVER seen anyone tell trans they "shouldn't 'eXiSt' " Not once. That's a load of bullshit. They 'exist'. They exist as human beings. They exist as male or female. The pushback is by feminists because males identifying as transwomen eroded our boundaries, entered our safe female only spaces, and cheated us out of medals. Feminists started getting justifiably angry and pushed back. It is transwomen that won't let us females live our lives away from males however they identify.

You want to talk about vile, @MoodyAndBlue ? Come back to us when women and girls give males death threats and RAPE THREATS like these. The vile comments are all from the transwomen who are showing Male Pattern Aggression.

Those pics are just terrible.

However, remember that some posters who turn a blind eye to the violence, aggression and intimidation of these male people have been known to not recognise their own victim blaming behaviour. There is absolutely no symmetry between the actions of women’s rights campaigners and extreme trans activists.

However, it does make some people very pleased with themselves to try the ‘both sides’ tactic. Anyone who has watched the developments over the past years though understand that this tactic only works when people haven’t taken time to understand. Or that the people being convinced or supporting ‘both sides’ have a vest interest in their position.