Tommy's charity - utterly captured

[Callmejudith]

Received an email from Tommy's today promoting their new pregnancy advice for transgender and non binary parents - absolute drivel https://www.tommys.org/pregnancy-information/being-pregnant/pregnancy-trans-and-non-binary-parents?utmcampaign=Pregnancy%20for%20trans%20and%20non-binary%20parents%20-%20Not%20clicked&utmmcontent=transnonnbinarypregginfotexttlink&utmterm=&utmmmedium=email&utmsource=adestra

I suspect they've been captured for a while but I am so upset, I've raised thousands of pounds for them over the years

i was reading it with this face but ultimately the important thing is that women engage with their antenatal care. Whatever gets them through the door and talking to the midwife, tbh. I do find it fairly incredible that any woman can read this and really think it’s healthy and positive though.

I will never understand how a woman can so determinedly reject the fact of her being female, and then nevertheless decide to do the one most basic exclusively defining female thing that she could ever possibly do.

It really gives the unmistakable lie to the oft-proclaimed assertion of 'living as a man' (or 'living without a binary sex') - and shows beyond all shadow of doubt that even she doesn't believe what she claims to be.

I don’t know about ‘utterly captured’ . It’s hardly front and centre on their site, it’s pretty hard to find in fact from their
home page. The fact is that trans men do
exist and some of them will want to get pregnant. I don’t see how recognising that fact and providing relevant advice makes tommys ‘utterly captured’. A quick browse of the site shows that they mostly refer to
’women’ trying to get pregnant, it’s not all ‘pregnant people or people with a uterus’.

Trans men don't deny our biological sex, I have birth I know I was able to do that because I am a biological female therefore like most have a uterus. My gender identification and presentation are both as a man.

You can all go about clutching your pearls now I'm off to bed with my husband

For goodness sake OP, you're disappointed with Tommy's?! For giving advice to trans and non binary people who might become pregnant and therefore deserve good care for themselves and baby? Some of the posts on here really shock me. I suppose you'll stop raising any money for them now. Every person's circumstances and needs are different and are taken into account but you're objecting to what I m sure isn't a large number of trans and NB having any help with their particular circumstances. Disgusting

I think posters on here must spend their days searching for literally anything they can dig up and start having the vapours about cos trans!!

This!

I agree with you OP sunlight and all that.

Lesbians having babies is not new, guess we just have to put up with the fact that some same sex attracted women think they are men.

i worry for these children whose mothers deny their own sex and sexuality. What kind of shit are they going to have to deal with from these self obsessed nit wits.

In what way are trans men self obsessed nit wits? Seems a very sweeping statement to make. People are individuals.

Ridiculous. I just feel sorry for the babies of these deluded individuals.

” trans men” are just women.they are not men in any way shape or form. They are women. As giving birth to a child is a testament too.

there is nothing other than biology, any idea that you are not the sex you were born with is a nonsense.

Receiving this email motivated me to join MN (first time poster; long time lurker). Unsubscribed and cancelled DD. Is nothing sacred?

Anyway “i am off to bed, with my husband” who BTW has a penis which he was born with.

O trust me I am very aware.

@Ymiryboo So you are married to a biological male who has a penis which you seem to imply you enjoy. You have procreated with him. And claim that you are a man.

yes right pull the other one mate.

Blimey, your life sounds confusing.

Imagine how the kids must find it 🤦‍♀️

It looks like the trans movement has abandoned the TWAW/TMAM claim which used to be front and centre.
Any suggestion that transwomen were in any way not 100% women, just like the rest of us women, was unforgivably, even criminally, transphobic.

That didn't fly very well, and now we see statements like 'I am a transman, I don't deny that I am a biological woman but I present as a man'.

Surely this is a complete reversal of the definition of transwoman/transman?
Transpeople are no longer claiming to be the opposite of the sex which they were born into. After years of basing their whole raison d'être on changing sex, literally.

The prefix 'trans' now seems to mean 'not, but presenting as', as in 'not a woman therefore a man but presenting as a woman' or 'not a man therefore a woman but presenting as a man'.

It actually undermines the whole basis of the trans movement. It's a pretty extraordinary turnaround, and needs to be highlighted.

Regarding providing specific material on pregnancy for transmen and binary parents - it seems superfluous, since transmen remain [as we've always known] biologically female, and they don't even seem to make an issue of being female any more, so what's the need for any special information?

Are you saying the kids of gay men are confused because that's all we look like to him two men because we're normal and don't flash our genitals at our children*, have you not read jack has two daddies?

Probably boycotting the local library though to be fair too open minded since they started stocking books other than the bible, Mien Kapf and the Elders of Zion.

• Do you ? If so you really should stop

You’re literally just a “spicy straight” woman. How does one “present as a man”? I have short hair and never wear dresses or skirts, does that also make me a trans man?

So your children have no mother?

So do you still see yourself as female but just like to appear like a stereotypical man physically, or do you see yourself as a man who incorrectly has a female body?
I thought trans was generally a repulsion/rejection of biological sex (happy to be corrected if that's wrong)