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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mumsnet Obsession With Penises

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Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 18:33

My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.

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nutmeg7 · 29/06/2025 20:26

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:12

I'm sorry a trans woman raped you and I believe you. I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

Oh let’s have those stats please.

Trans sex workers in the US or South America don’t count in this context which is the uk.

NecessaryScene · 29/06/2025 20:26

I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

I think you misread a statistic - you'll find that the average "trans woman" is over 1000 times more likely to rape than any average woman.

That's the justification.

Helleofabore · 29/06/2025 20:27

Fuck! Where did this thread come from! Another one moved to the naughty corner.

HermioneWeasley · 29/06/2025 20:27

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:12

I'm sorry a trans woman raped you and I believe you. I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

I mean, that’s an obviously made up statistic.

even if it were true (it isn’t), women aren’t human shields. It would be an argument for additional third spaces for trans people.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 20:28

NecessaryScene · 29/06/2025 20:26

I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

I think you misread a statistic - you'll find that the average "trans woman" is over 1000 times more likely to rape than any average woman.

That's the justification.

Women can't commit rape, so it's not mathematically possible to work out how many more times likely a trans woman is to commit rape than a woman is. You can't have a multiple of zero.

nutmeg7 · 29/06/2025 20:30

This thread is a pointless waste of time.

GailBlancheViola · 29/06/2025 20:31

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:12

I'm sorry a trans woman raped you and I believe you. I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

Your evidence for this is?

You will be pleased to know that many transwomen already use the men's toilets and can report nothing untoward happening.

How do you justify the risk to women by allowing all transwomen rapist and non rapist alike entry into women's toilets? What's your base number for women and girls being sexually assaulted or raped before you will reconsider this position?

There is a damn good reason why all males are excluded from female spaces and services, and all males includes transwomen as they are indeed biological males.

Nameychangington · 29/06/2025 20:32

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:12

I'm sorry a trans woman raped you and I believe you. I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

  1. 70% of the transwomen in UK prisons are sex offenders. How many is the number you think women are justified in being concerned about?

  2. we 'force' all the other non rapist men to use the mens loos too, why do you think that is?

  3. there are no recorded instances of a transwoman being harmed in a men's single sex space ever in the UK.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 29/06/2025 20:32

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises

i do not!

you take that back!

MaggieBsBoat · 29/06/2025 20:36

So for clarity average woman = woman with XX chromosomes or a vulva for instance?

Non-average woman=everyone else?

My husband will be pleased. He’s been very keen to be considered a little bit extra.
Maybe this explains why Imane Khelif and Lia Thomas are such winners.

DialSquare · 29/06/2025 20:39
pigeon GIF

Actual footage of our recent visitors.

Waitwhat23 · 29/06/2025 20:47

I see the footstamping over the SC judgement continues.

Males aren't allowed in female single sex spaces. Sorry pal.

Mumsnet Obsession With Penises
EmpressaurusKitty · 29/06/2025 20:47

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lady69 · 29/06/2025 20:48

F me, these ridiculous OP’s are getting dull. Is school out or something?

Waitwhat23 · 29/06/2025 20:48

RufustheFactualReindeer · 29/06/2025 20:32

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises

i do not!

you take that back!

I laughed an inordinate amount at that!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 29/06/2025 20:49

GwenogJones · 29/06/2025 18:47

My controversial opinion is that most of the mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes would pick more important and interesting topics if men stopped trying to invade women's spaces, redefine words and transition children.

In fact, I expect they'd love to be discussing "more important and interesting topics". But the men won't stop and so neither will the mums.

How inconvenient for the men.

I couldn’t agree more, @GwenogJones!

Helleofabore · 29/06/2025 20:50

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:12

I'm sorry a trans woman raped you and I believe you. I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

Please don’t spread misinformation like this on a feminist board. This is really fucked up unless you support it with evidence.

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/06/2025 20:51

There was quite a lot of talk about drake penises on MN at one point - I think it was just one of those phases. They do sound pretty nasty though.

But not as bad as cat penises, which extend spikes into the female cat’s vagina in order to trigger ovulation. Just one more reason why it’s far kinder to get cats neutered.

RareGoalsVerge · 29/06/2025 20:51

lady69 · 29/06/2025 20:48

F me, these ridiculous OP’s are getting dull. Is school out or something?

GCSEs finished about a week ago. The 15yos have nothing to do but play fortnite and post every random idea in their brain onto the internet.

Waitwhat23 · 29/06/2025 20:53

Scottish schools have finished for the summer and it's hotter than usual so it'll be making all the tiny misogynists twitchy.

RareGoalsVerge · 29/06/2025 20:54

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/06/2025 20:51

There was quite a lot of talk about drake penises on MN at one point - I think it was just one of those phases. They do sound pretty nasty though.

But not as bad as cat penises, which extend spikes into the female cat’s vagina in order to trigger ovulation. Just one more reason why it’s far kinder to get cats neutered.

Better than fox penises, which swell up so that the male physically cannot disengage after ejaculation so that the female cannot go off and potentially be inseminated by other males whose swimmers could be a little faster

Helleofabore · 29/06/2025 20:54

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:01

How do you tell a gay man from a paedophile. You don't - but that does not mean gay men are paedophiles.

Look! There is a squirrel! Over there.

IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums · 29/06/2025 20:56

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:40

I grew up in the 80's; had my bum fondled on a staircase aged 7; was flashed at, cat called and had 'whore' shouted at me as a frightened teen...by men. I was terrified walking home from the bus stop - I used to take my shoes off and run. I once had a lesbian try to pick me up on the tube (so women can be invasive abusive dicks too but that's another point). You're all directing your vitriol at trans women when since the beginning of time it is men hurting women, not trans women hurting women.

Yeah I know you'll all scream "but trans women are MEN" but even if that's the case, why centre your fury around them and not, er, actual man-identifying MEN. Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy. At heart, this is all rage and hatred against people who are not "normal" and don't look or identify how you'd prefer them to look and identify. Did you know that in 19th century South Africa black people were termed "non human?". Substitute "trans" for "black" and "not women" for "not human" and then see how your hatred is working for you.

This is such unhinged nonsense, it's hard to know where to start. OP, if you genuinely want to help trans women, I recommend actually engaging on these boards in good faith.
The trans movement has serious misogyny and homophobia problems which it needs to address. You can call the women who call out that misogyny penis obsessed if you like but you just look like you have no idea what you're talking about and it doesn't help anyone, trans or otherwise.

DeanElderberry · 29/06/2025 20:58

It's very easy to understand. Transwomen are men.

As deserving of respect and safety as any other male human being. But male, and men. Whether or not they have penises.

DragonRunor · 29/06/2025 20:58

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:09

Yes and being gay presumably.

How fucking dare you?

Any sensible, informed parent would be concerned if their child wanted to ‘transition’. The ‘treatment’ is damaging, brutal and (reference Cass) not even an actual treatment. I’m glad my kids haven’t chosen a pathway of sterilisation, lack of sexual pleasure and possibly constant pain and other medical problems.

Gay? Crack on!

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