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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mumsnet Obsession With Penises

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Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 18:33

My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.

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EdithStourton · 30/06/2025 11:57

DeanElderberry · 30/06/2025 09:32

There must have been so many returnees with recipe books and eating habits shaped in Indian kitchens from 1947 on - though curries had been popular for centuries. Remember the bit in E F Benson's Queen Lucia (1920) with the guru/curry cook?

It's as though the OP knows nothing about culinary history or British and Irish domestic habits.

That is the impression given, yes. Bods were coming back from Asia in the C19th, bringing curry recipes with them.

I'm getting the urge to go and see what the options are... I know we've got coconut milk in stock...

Datun · 30/06/2025 11:58

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 30/06/2025 11:54

If I die in mysterious circumstances, someone please delete my browser history.

😁😁😁

sometimes advertising suggestions make me do a double take!!

Boiledbeetle · 30/06/2025 12:00

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 30/06/2025 11:52

I just had a Google to see if I could buy some bull penis for a beef curry, and found out that you can actually buy a bull penis walking stick mobility aid.

I know that it's a common thought to think who was the first person to see some cows udders and think I'm going to drink from that, but more importantly who looked at a bulls penis and thought that would make a nice walking stick that would.

I had to turn my safe search off for that and it still insisted on blurring images.

For some reason I read it as bull penis wanking stick. Luckily I did not search that as I fear for what I may have seen!

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 30/06/2025 12:02

BettyBooper · 30/06/2025 09:08

Meatball curry?! Is this a thing?

Yes agreed. There's lots of incoherent nonsense flying in.

I made a really delicious meatball curry once. I think it was a gousto recipe. I'll have to go and check the recipe folder.

EdithStourton · 30/06/2025 12:05

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 02:33

Reminds me of the exchanges between Tom Swarbrick and Rachel who called in to LBC:

https://x.com/LBC/status/1504855407373787143

I've just watched that.
His face!

And his patience... the caller came over as a clueless, well-intentioned midwit with the critical thinking skills of a whelk.

RedToothBrush · 30/06/2025 12:05

PrettyDamnCosmic · 30/06/2025 10:39

Alternatively it's an 11 year old in a different time zone. 02:30 BST is 21:30 in New York & 18:30 in San Francisco.

Exactly...

...it's fascinating really.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 30/06/2025 12:13

Clearly this is a forum for mothers who've never loved and cared for a trans person.

I suppose technically mine is trans. Thankfully no one is suggesting any medication or surgery to attempt turn them into a t-rex though.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 12:14

WithSilverBells · 30/06/2025 11:17

Mumsnet's habit of shunting threads that started elsewhere into FWR is not helping things. Particularly when neither the OP nor FWR regulars realise what has happened.

Yes, I imagine the transfer is as much of a shock, if not more, to the OP than it is to us.
OP should be ashamed that their standard of debate was so poor that PPs judged them to be an 11 year old.

I have posted in Site Stuff suggesting that MNHQ add an Announcement when they shunt threads from other Boards in to FWR.

OP should be ashamed that their standard of debate was so poor that PPs judged them to be an 11 year old.

If the OP really is a middle-aged Canadian, as per the only previous post that I could find, then given the parlous state of mainstream journalism and media in Canada perhaps they can be excused their level of indoctrination and ignorance? 🤷‍♀️

SternJoyousBee · 30/06/2025 12:19

BettyBooper · 30/06/2025 10:56

The really sad thing for me is, that conversation was nearly identical to one I had with my best friend on this issue 😥.

I just couldn't believe it. Still can't. 😥

Did you get any sense of the genesis of her opinions? Trans friends? Or just wanting to #bekind?

YesButNoButMayybee · 30/06/2025 12:25

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 12:14

I have posted in Site Stuff suggesting that MNHQ add an Announcement when they shunt threads from other Boards in to FWR.

OP should be ashamed that their standard of debate was so poor that PPs judged them to be an 11 year old.

If the OP really is a middle-aged Canadian, as per the only previous post that I could find, then given the parlous state of mainstream journalism and media in Canada perhaps they can be excused their level of indoctrination and ignorance? 🤷‍♀️

No. I really don't think any middle aged person can be excused this level of ignorance, stupidity and wilful denial of truth and fact.

Helleofabore · 30/06/2025 12:28

Datun · 30/06/2025 11:34

I grew up in the 80's; had my bum fondled on a staircase aged 7; was flashed at, cat called and had 'whore' shouted at me as a frightened teen...by men. I was terrified walking home from the bus stop - I used to take my shoes off and run.

i'll never understand how people like the OP don't realise that now this man, and every other predator in the land, can follow them straight into the toilet, changing room - and rape refuge.

@Manfreglory imagine if we invented a rule that said adult men could be alone with children and teens, because they belonged to a special sub group of men who said they genuinely meant them no harm.

What do you think would happen?

And you really think that now everybody believes that ALL priests are predators??

Stop just blindly thinking that a sub group of men are the most vulnerable people in the world, and listen to what is actually happening because they are demanding a loophole that erases safeguarding altogether.

Why would they do that? And why would you support it?

They simply have allocated a false categorisation of 'true trans' and then further falsely assumed that no male person who holds the philosophical belief that they are no longer male will ever be harming a female person of any age.

It defies all logic but they need to maintain that falsehood to be able to remain supportive of allowing male people into the female single sex provisions.

It is actually quite a ridiculous premise to start with when you consider historical events.

TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2025 12:34

YesButNoButMayybee · 30/06/2025 12:25

No. I really don't think any middle aged person can be excused this level of ignorance, stupidity and wilful denial of truth and fact.

I don't know. There are middle aged, liberal Canadians in the most hermetically sealed echo chambers you'll ever see in your life. So it could be that this person has simply never come across a questioning view on this, ever.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 30/06/2025 12:41

Manfreglory · 30/06/2025 02:30

The origin of this post is that Mumsnet users were asked to share a controversial opinion.

This opinion has been reinforced beyond my wildest dreams.

Clearly this is a forum for mothers who've never loved and cared for a trans person. Or are able, even, to comprehend what that entails.

Too bigoted to understand that no, we don't all look and feel the same; yes, throughout history people's childhoods have been blighted by gender dysphoria and that: yes, it's a real, actual, come-by-it-honestly thing.

"Its absurd! It's made up! It's ideology! We cannot imagine it and we've never seen it so it must be a plot!"

Go back to your Daily Mail: I'm done.

Er "WE don't all look the same"?
I thought you definitely weren't Trans.

Make your mind up.

ArabellaScott · 30/06/2025 12:47

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy.

This is a version of the 'you've all got gender neutral loos in your house'.

Its the same fallacy. And it's exactly the same argument that used to be used against rape victims.

A woman who has consenting sex with a man does not therefore sign away the need for her consent to interactions with other men/penises.

Women are allowed to choose which penises they are exposed to or interact with, and to suggest otherwise is gross rape culture.

YesButNoButMayybee · 30/06/2025 12:52

TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2025 12:34

I don't know. There are middle aged, liberal Canadians in the most hermetically sealed echo chambers you'll ever see in your life. So it could be that this person has simply never come across a questioning view on this, ever.

I still don't think that's an excuse. Everyone knows full well the facts of the situation. Otherwise the argument really wouldn't exist.

TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2025 12:54

YesButNoButMayybee · 30/06/2025 12:52

I still don't think that's an excuse. Everyone knows full well the facts of the situation. Otherwise the argument really wouldn't exist.

Agreed. I was just questioning the idea that this has to be a younger person.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 30/06/2025 12:56

BettyBooper · 30/06/2025 09:06

Ah thank you for this too!

Yes it was something about how in the 50s everyone was completely bamboozled by curry and now we uncultured types are similarly bamboozled by trans. And some other equally nonsense points.

I will now share my most recent food discovery...

Tum Yum noodles in a packet. Packet of stir fried veg. Put together and you have a very tasty and cheap dinner.

Really? OP appears to be misinformed about more than just trans issues then since curry has been a popular/common dish in the UK since at least Victorian times. I doubt it was viewed as particularly odd in the '50s.

Keeptoiletssafe · 30/06/2025 12:59

The children that have been raped in public toilets are from more vulnerable backgrounds. Although I do not know the demographics of schools, what I think is true of any background, is that many go unreported.

When you start to research you start to see patterns and it’s horrifying.

For example, in the EHRC consultation due in before 11.59pm today
At example 13.3.15 there’s this: The cubicles have floor to ceiling lockable doors and there have been no complaints about inappropriate conduct in the changing rooms.
This is really, really not a justification for mixed sex spaces that they think it is.

As far as ‘lockable’ and ‘secure’ toilet cubicles go, none are truly secure as in building regs you need to be able to open the door from the outside outwards as it is so well known that bodies impede access otherwise.

RoyalCorgi · 30/06/2025 13:44

We all remember that book by a Mumsnetter, "A heartbreaking work of staggering penis", don't we?

Or the time a Mumsnetter played the piano on Channel 4 with her penis.

Or the time a Mumsnetter graffit'd the words "Suck my dick" outside a FiLiA conference.

Oh hang on. No. They were all trans activists. Silly me.

Drfosters · 30/06/2025 14:25

RoyalCorgi · 30/06/2025 13:44

We all remember that book by a Mumsnetter, "A heartbreaking work of staggering penis", don't we?

Or the time a Mumsnetter played the piano on Channel 4 with her penis.

Or the time a Mumsnetter graffit'd the words "Suck my dick" outside a FiLiA conference.

Oh hang on. No. They were all trans activists. Silly me.

I don’t think I’ll ever get over the piano thing…. If ever there was a words fail me moment- that was it!

Nameychangington · 30/06/2025 15:04

Two different posts advocating putting sliced banana in curry.

There's such a thing as going too far y'know.

ArabellaScott · 30/06/2025 15:05

Nameychangington · 30/06/2025 15:04

Two different posts advocating putting sliced banana in curry.

There's such a thing as going too far y'know.

Not in the curry. You have sliced banana rolled in desiccated coconut as a side dish. It's nice!

Grammarnut · 30/06/2025 15:10

There is no such thing as a trans child and no such thing as trans either. That being the case women on here (and elsewhere) would still be interested in supporting and fighting for our sex-segregated spaces against men who 'think' they are women.

BettyBooper · 30/06/2025 15:12

EdithStourton · 30/06/2025 11:36

Meatball curry is 100% a thing. It's a household classic in some Malaysian communities.

This is really interesting, thanks. I think I need to research more about curry!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 30/06/2025 15:15

ArabellaScott · 30/06/2025 15:05

Not in the curry. You have sliced banana rolled in desiccated coconut as a side dish. It's nice!

Growing up my mum used to roll a whole banana in desiccated coconut and then wrap it in tinfoil and freeze it. Cheep-o icy treat! Even better if you dip part of it in melted chocolate after you take it out (though that one I learned as an adult).

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