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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 30/05/2025 18:15

worldboxing.org/news/

Guess we'll finally find out whether Imane Khelif is female or not. I suspect he will avoid the testing "out of principle" 🤭

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SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2025 23:24

The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.

🤞

Hoydenish · 30/05/2025 23:27

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2025 23:24

The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.

🤞

Love a bit of Longfellow.

lcakethereforeIam · 30/05/2025 23:28

Let's not forget the other cheating male at the last Olympics, Lin Yu-Ting. He's the other one who actually punched women not one of the myriad number of cheats who were happy put him and Khelif up there to do that.

murasaki · 30/05/2025 23:29

He seems to have been wisely keeping a rather lower profile.

Plasticwaste · 30/05/2025 23:29

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2025 22:52

Sudden injury, avoids this tournament. Says they will compete at next one after recovery. Never gets fit again as injury turns out to be more serious than expected. And the timing is alllll just an amazing coincidence.

Packs in boxing to become lifestyle zeleb and influencer.

murasaki · 30/05/2025 23:32

Plasticwaste · 30/05/2025 23:29

Packs in boxing to become lifestyle zeleb and influencer.

And most oppressed person ever.

lcakethereforeIam · 30/05/2025 23:35

Can he speak English? Perhaps he'll pop up on celebrity Big brother or that one where they eat spiders and kangaroos unmentionables.

AllWhitNoWhoo · 30/05/2025 23:58

kangaroos unmentionables.

Ah yes, the jill's testicles.

WallaceinAnderland · 31/05/2025 00:25

If he won't test, I wonder if the women who have not consented to be punched by a male have any redress.

This was IW's very confidant opinion before the sex test announcement.

World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2025 00:36

BiologicalRobot · 30/05/2025 22:28

Yes!!!!

I predict a traumatic training incident which means he has to retire from boxing. This will give him enough martyrdom for him to earn money and fame from cutting ribbons in his own country. Only way he and Algeria can save face imo, and that is the most important thing to cheating bodies/governments.

💯

RedToothBrush · 31/05/2025 00:55

WallaceinAnderland · 31/05/2025 00:25

If he won't test, I wonder if the women who have not consented to be punched by a male have any redress.

This was IW's very confidant opinion before the sex test announcement.

Indeed. If he tests the women could challenge previous results. If he 'gets injured' and doesn't test, he keeps the gold and no one can challenge these results.

The only alternative is to undermine or falsify any test results, saying it's a conspiracy/lie etc or bribe / falsify a test.

IcyPlumOtter · 31/05/2025 01:35

RedToothBrush · 31/05/2025 00:55

Indeed. If he tests the women could challenge previous results. If he 'gets injured' and doesn't test, he keeps the gold and no one can challenge these results.

The only alternative is to undermine or falsify any test results, saying it's a conspiracy/lie etc or bribe / falsify a test.

I agree, he will suddenly retire.

The Times article says:

"World Boxing will also reserve the right to instruct genetic sex testing on new or existing athlete samples to confirm their certification."

So hopefully falsification will be hard.

ed idiot sp

PollyValente · 31/05/2025 02:19

...the International Olympic Committee decided that womanhood could be determined by passport status rather than biology.
what à sack of utter spineless morons.

Slothtoes · 31/05/2025 04:17

TheOtherRaven · 30/05/2025 18:45

Khelif could have proved his case at any time if he knew he could come up with the result that matches what he says.

Mandatory sex testing is going to have to become an absolutely normal, every day thing in all kinds of situations, and it's men like him who have made it necessary.

This. 100%

FancyNewt · 31/05/2025 04:21

Excuse my ignorance as I've not followed this since the Olympics. I thought Khelif was raised as a female and was suspected to have DSD , is that not the case ?

TheSandgroper · 31/05/2025 04:23

@FancyNewt if you check my link unthread to The Real Science of Sport podcast, you will get a really good explanation.

FancyNewt · 31/05/2025 04:31

Thank you.

ThunderFog · 31/05/2025 06:55

TheSandgroper · 30/05/2025 22:20

That gets a "404 not found" error

SabrinaThwaite · 31/05/2025 07:00

History being rewritten already. Steve Bunce, the commentator used by the BBC who was full on ‘Khelif is a woman and anyone that says otherwise is a nasty bigot’, has been community noted on TwiX:

World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.
World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 31/05/2025 07:07

SabrinaThwaite · 31/05/2025 07:00

History being rewritten already. Steve Bunce, the commentator used by the BBC who was full on ‘Khelif is a woman and anyone that says otherwise is a nasty bigot’, has been community noted on TwiX:

These people are shameless.

WhoAreYouTalkingTo · 31/05/2025 07:17

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2025 22:50

Oliver Brown in the Telegraph:

https://archive.ph/XSiEo

I suspect that Khelif will imminently have some kind of ‘career ending event’, resulting in a retirement before testing can be undertaken.

Because otherwise that Olympic medal is going to disappear.

This is a great article. The reporter knows IK's sex

fromorbit · 31/05/2025 07:30

Victory!

Most of the news reports however are not giving credit to the real victors here. The protestors online and IRL, mostly women, who stopped this assault on women before it started.

The existing thread will tell you more on the background:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5343571-imane-khelif-to-box-women-in-the-netherlands-eindhoven-cup-june-6-9

As those following that thread saw the promotors of Eindhoven Cup were keen to get Khelif into the competition. They had him on the poster, they were pushing him on social media.

Only this time without the power of the Olympics they had a real pushback to face. A growing storm of protesters online resulted in a mass of women ready to turn up at Eindhoven, even travelling from abroad. Complaints were sent to World Boxing. Seeing the wave of negative publicity they were going to face World Boxing who had a year to sort this out suddenly moved fast.

Once again women speaking up has resulted in a massive win.

Only Oliver Brown in the Telegraph is giving real credit and in turn it seems likely it was his news article in the Telegraph supporting the protestors which caused panic in World Boxing:

World Boxing feared backlash
As late as Tuesday, officials at the Eindhoven event were still enthusiastically promoting Khelif’s involvement, releasing a poster with the caption: “Proud that Imane Khelif is there again to defend her title.”

That provoked a fierce backlash, with women’s rights groups in both the UK and the Netherlands vowing to stage protests on site. Within 48 hours of <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/XSiEo/www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2025/05/28/imane-khelif-imminent-return-boxing-fresh-gender-row/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Telegraph Sport highlighting the tensions of Khelif’s comeback, World Boxing, who feared the tournament turning into a circus, chose to issue a policy update that it had first promised in February.
https://archive.ph/XSiEo

Page 3 | Imane Khelif to box women In The Netherlands' Eindhoven Cup June 6-9 | Mumsnet

It is going to happen again at the end of next week. Details: [[https://www.outkick.com/sports/imane-khelif-netherlands-eindhoven-box-cup https://ww...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5343571-imane-khelif-to-box-women-in-the-netherlands-eindhoven-cup-june-6-9?page=3

BezMills · 31/05/2025 07:40

Imane can turn up and compete in the correct sex category. No issue with that.

nauticant · 31/05/2025 07:42

TheSandgroper · 31/05/2025 07:08

https://shows.acast.com/realscienceofsport/episodes/paris-special-episode-males-are-about-to-fight-in-womens-box

This should work. I don’t know why the other one didn’t.

In case this one doesn’t either, it’s The Real Science of Sport on Acast and others dated Thursday August 1, 2024.

It was the full stop at the end of the earlier link.