Greens internal drama warms up

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New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts.

How the Green Party forgot the environment and was torn apart by trans rows
It was a party united by a single mission – to save the planet. But now the gender identity debate has left it divided and in chaos

https://archive.is/TOlNx

The article is already out of date as Zack Polanski of hypnotic breasts fame has just launched a leadership bid against Deyner and Ramsey.

Emma Bateman
It's no secret that big boobs Polanski wants the top job. He is a student politics slogan churner, a self server who distains women and wants misgendering misdemeanours to be grounds for expulsion from the Greens.
He is "LGB with the T"
Still NO DEBATE!

Pro-women Greens article on his background:;
https://concernedgreens.uk/watchlist/zack-polanski/

The existence of biology is likely to be a significant part of the leadership contest for sure so interesting to watch .

Ali Shahrar has launched another legal challenge against the Greens. Gardening needed.

May 27th is the date for Emma Bateman's legal hearing against the Greens.

On May 27th I am in court against Green Party in a case which will expose the contorted lengths the Greens go to in order to shut women up.

It isn't going to go well for the Greens given the Supreme Court ruling. This could be key moment in seeing the ruling's effect on politics and directly impact the leadership contest. It will also be probably be infuriating and hilarious in equal measure.

More like Hay on Why.

😅Is that a deliberate pun?

Hay on XY?

Hay on Wah.

Unfortunately, the Hay identifies as Straw and it is very upset having been mis-baled.

That is a Straw Non-Man, and I demand my £5 back.

Hay on Woo.

May I introduce the band that will be opening the show - the Four Straw Non-Men. They do a great cover of 'What's Up?'

I realised quickly when I knew I should
That the world was made up of this brotherhood of non-man
For whatever that means

... and so the earworm begins.

"And I say, hey yeah yeah-eh-eh, hey yeah yeah
I said HAY, what's going on?"

And I try
Oh my God, do I try
I'm nonbinary all the time
Is this cis confusion?

Good article by Shahrar Ali in the Telegraph
https://archive.ph/aPR27

yes

In some areas of the country the local greens have this policy for a few of the local roles.

it has, I’ve been told, been quite amusing to hear how they’ve tried to make sense of the SR and still stick to party policy. Obvs NBs can enter both categories…..

So what is the maximum number of male leaders and deputies? 4, 3 or 2?

https://archive.ph/mIFjw

Haven't seen this discussed either, Green candidate suspended over 'sexual misconduct' claim...

Horrible man.

Remember that Scottish Greens are a completely different party from The Green Party of England and Wales.
Scottish Greens disafiliated a few years ago because GPEW was so transphobic. 🙄

I’m a working-class Green Party member, not posh in the slightest.

Seems Thomas Daw is all of 21 years old with limited political experience. Why do I think the greens would still pick him over a more experienced woman?

Having seen the anti women's rights crap the Greens post on X all the time I'm amazed anyone sane would consider voting for them. They were a party I would have considered voting for in the past but they are now just captured nutjobs.

It would be one non man and one non binary under local party rules

So, plausibly two men.

I would love to vote for the Greens nationally. Locally, their councillors do sterling work with an environment focus, fabulous grass roots members who tend to ignore the leadership.

Sadly, nationally finished for me with the complete mess they made with the Challenor's and the complete lack of safe-guarding or good old-fashioned common sense. How they could ever have seriously considered Aimee/Ashton as a potential politician and Deputy Leader is beyond belief. Nothing that has happened in the years since then can convince me that any lessons were learnt.

I haven't got the link but Green Women's Declaration posted a good tweet about the nonsensical gender rules for the leadership election.

which would be sunlight

Not sure what I'm meant to do with that, @PaintedPebbles . I'm just reporting my experience. The Greens I knew were all university graduates with posh voices and stupid hair. I gently raised the university thing once (that it was strange they were all in this rarified bubble and what did it mean about who was "in" their community they were always banging on about) and they were amazed, just AMAZED that I didn't go to university. 😂

But most people didn't go to university. It's really really normal. It's so normal. Like 70% of adults. It's only on telly that everyone goes. It's not real life. But they were so posh it was like they thought telly was real - it was made by/for people like them.

I do connect this a bit to the gender stuff actually. If you look at the BBC or ITV etc, it's a narrative being told by a particular type of posh person - it's their story of this country. And if that story is actually quite close to your experience, maybe it's persuasive that it's THE story, that it's some kind of collective social truth. And then you can really believe that everyone thinks these mental things. Media, like the algorithm, is a hall of mirrors.

This is much less believable if you're just not in that story in the first place. It's much easier to see the artifice - the wonky sets and the shallow perspective. This is a welcome intellectual freedom, I think, for all of us not addressed! I'm not looking for "representation". I'm pretty glad to not have been subject to this collective self-hypnosis - a lucky, accidental escape.

Lots of people, such as Owen Jones, who identify themselves as being on the Left will......they are the people who have always dismissed the issue anyway...seeing it purely through a 'trans only' filter. People who want more readicalism and challenging of the establishment.