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Greens internal drama warms up

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fromorbit · 05/05/2025 15:43

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts.

How the Green Party forgot the environment and was torn apart by trans rows
It was a party united by a single mission – to save the planet. But now the gender identity debate has left it divided and in chaos

https://archive.is/TOlNx

The article is already out of date as Zack Polanski of hypnotic breasts fame has just launched a leadership bid against Deyner and Ramsey.

Emma Bateman
It's no secret that big boobs Polanski wants the top job. He is a student politics slogan churner, a self server who distains women and wants misgendering misdemeanours to be grounds for expulsion from the Greens.
He is "LGB with the T"
Still NO DEBATE!

Pro-women Greens article on his background:;
https://concernedgreens.uk/watchlist/zack-polanski/

The existence of biology is likely to be a significant part of the leadership contest for sure so interesting to watch .

Ali Shahrar has launched another legal challenge against the Greens. Gardening needed.

May 27th is the date for Emma Bateman's legal hearing against the Greens.

On May 27th I am in court against Green Party in a case which will expose the contorted lengths the Greens go to in order to shut women up.

It isn't going to go well for the Greens given the Supreme Court ruling. This could be key moment in seeing the ruling's effect on politics and directly impact the leadership contest. It will also be probably be infuriating and hilarious in equal measure.

Zack Polanski – Concerned Greens

https://concernedgreens.uk/watchlist/zack-polanski

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ArabellaScott · 03/12/2025 09:20

fromorbit · 03/12/2025 09:16

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/tIklD/www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/j/ja-je/james-baxter-derrington/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">James Baxter-Derrington
Zack Polanski is an economically-illiterate populist – just like Farage
Green Party leader’s non-existent grasp of the economy has just been brutally exposed

https://archive.is/tIklD

Trans liberation event in Leeds. Mothin Ali doesn't attend so they get a Green from Manchester instead.

https://nitter.net/sirwg202110/status/1995995235462132036

Edited

Was Mothin pinkwashing his hair?

Lalgarh · 03/12/2025 10:31

He did comment on another green councillor (and magistrate) in Bristol who is under investigation for tweets relating to 7 October attacks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9wwyyxzlo

Green Party deputy leader Mothin Ali has released a video saying the party is "fully backing" Mr Malik.
In the video Mr Ali said that "any punitive measures that authorities take against him are discriminatory".
"They're targeting him for his activism," Mr Ali added.

Abdul Malik wearing a black jumper and suit jacket, photographed outside against a background of street art.

Hamas post leads to mosque chair facing three-year suspension

Supporters of Green party councillor Abdul Malik say his treatment is "disproportionate".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9wwyyxzlo

Lalgarh · 04/12/2025 09:28

I would have thought Bluesky users were far more signed up to Polanski and his economic policies than appears to be the case here

https://bsky.app/profile/jamesomalley.co.uk/post/3m6zbdcph7s2c

Grace Blakeley and Gary Stevenson aren't actually economists per se. The latter made a fortune out of the 2008 crash but has turned gamekeeper as it were, to describe how bad he felt making a shit ton more than his dad would in a year in an afternoon. The former is part of the Novara clique espousing Fully Automated Luxury Communism.

James O'Malley (@jamesomalley.co.uk)

Pinched this video from @cjsnowdon.bsky.social on Twitter because Bluesky has to see it. Nothing can prepare you for the punchline here.

https://bsky.app/profile/jamesomalley.co.uk/post/3m6zbdcph7s2c

ArabellaScott · 05/12/2025 21:37

Zack thinks care work is beneath him. What a contemptuous prick.

'I dont know about you, but I dont want to wipe someone's bum'

Manages to be offensive about migrants while also sneering at the many millions of (mostly women) who do 'wipe bums'.

Greens internal drama warms up
NasturtiumsAreUnderrated · 05/12/2025 22:14

@ArabellaScott Agree grade and comments.

WhatterySquash · 05/12/2025 22:24

That is horrible and shows clearly how he doesn't see anyone in a bum-wiping job (immigrant or not) as the same kind of person as him or on his superior level at all.

It's a job I've done (working for a woman with CP) and I realised how important it is, because these basic bodily things that most of us can do for ourselves mean we have the privilege of privacy and safety in relation to them. Someone who is doing that for someone else has a lot of responsibility and has to genuinely care and be respectful.

He's showing he knows nothing about respect and care and other people's dignity and the importance of so many lower-paid, lower-status jobs done by an army of real, human people he prefers to dismiss. I think this kind of gaping crack in his actual capacity to care about stuff, rather than just be an egotistical mouthpiece, is going to be his downfall because he just can't help revealing himself as the entitled, misogynist snob he really is.

I didn't like him before but I'm raging now!

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 05/12/2025 22:27

Hes also being disrespectful about people who need care. People arent just arses that need to be wiped.

HildegardP · 05/12/2025 23:32

ArabellaScott · 05/12/2025 21:37

Zack thinks care work is beneath him. What a contemptuous prick.

'I dont know about you, but I dont want to wipe someone's bum'

Manages to be offensive about migrants while also sneering at the many millions of (mostly women) who do 'wipe bums'.

How's that kind of contempt for the sick & disabled any part of the Greens' vaunted "diversity & inclusion"? What a loathsome liitle snob Hypnoboobs really is.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 00:28

He’s vile.

fromorbit · 06/12/2025 02:42

The Greens sexism in Bristol council is getting them sued. Great publicity in the run up to the May elections so could have an impact if the news spreads.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued

Wonder when or if ZP will be questioned about this. His response could be classic.

An issue for Greens is like Reform they can be clueless when they get power and end up screwing things up. See Brighton.

Bristol council is about to be sued | Mumsnet

The women of wessex are planning to sue Bristol council over their behaviour including walking out of chambers when asked questions and banning questi...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued

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Lalgarh · 06/12/2025 04:23

ArabellaScott · 05/12/2025 21:37

Zack thinks care work is beneath him. What a contemptuous prick.

'I dont know about you, but I dont want to wipe someone's bum'

Manages to be offensive about migrants while also sneering at the many millions of (mostly women) who do 'wipe bums'.

Says he's been misrepresented and he's very grateful for care workers

https://nitter.net/ZackPolanski/status/1997010360448999572#m

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 04:28

Yes, they exist so people like Zack don’t have to wipe bums.

Chersfrozenface · 06/12/2025 04:29

Amazing how often "I've been misrepresented" means "Oh shit, I've said the quiet bit out loud!" in politician speak.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 04:37

I’m sure the Zackolytes won’t care but hope everyone else reminds him of this comment when he’s doing one of his smug interviews.

ArabellaScott · 06/12/2025 07:45

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 05/12/2025 22:27

Hes also being disrespectful about people who need care. People arent just arses that need to be wiped.

Indeed.

That one throwaway comment reveals an awful lot about him.

ArabellaScott · 06/12/2025 07:48

Care work requires respect, tenacity, pragmatism, compassion, and toughness.

Zack might have benefited from a year or two of working in care. Although I don't know if patients would have.

fromorbit · 06/12/2025 08:13

On Zack Polanski’s Magic Money Tree, economic gravity simply doesn’t exist
https://www.standard.co.uk/business/zack-polanski-modern-monetary-theory-economics-b1261280.html

Local conservative and Greens clash over witch pardons [which local government has no power over] and spending hug sums to eco fit an old council building.

Green Party council leader of Maidstone council who called for pardon for witches survives no-confidence vote
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/council-leader-who-called-for-pardon-for-witches-survives-no-333458/

Council leader who called for pardon for witches survives no-confidence vote

A Green Party leader accused of steering a council away from its “core mission” has defeated a Conservative bid to topple him.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/council-leader-who-called-for-pardon-for-witches-survives-no-333458/

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Lalgarh · 06/12/2025 09:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 04:37

I’m sure the Zackolytes won’t care but hope everyone else reminds him of this comment when he’s doing one of his smug interviews.

Yeah the comments below are calling out the truly despicable person in this, um Wes Streeting who seized on it.

It does seem pretty telling that it outlines a Dubai style attitude towards cheap labour from abroad who'll do the work he can't deign to do. When we had carers coming in for my parents quite a few were actually ex "professional jobs" ppl who had taken to this. Care work always has vacancies. Always. It's not just the icky stuff but the shit pay and the emotional trauma. One carer I chatted to told me she'd had to stop visiting one client as she spent her entire day's alone and crying. You don't get that managing a bar.

I'll post this riposte from an actual migrant working as a carer
https://nitter.net/Th_Angelopoulos/status/1997041340811812924#m

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 10:43

Well done Wes for landing that one, whatever else I think about him.

Lalgarh · 06/12/2025 11:40

Good phrase Zackolyte.

There is already "zackxplaining" in the comments saying what he actually meant was that he's hugely grateful and they are appreciated. Someone else also Zackxplained that his (ZP) partner is a care worker. So maybe he should have led with that and said how utterly grueling and thankless and underpaid the work is? Weirdly it was bloody Reform who got in with some semblance of a plan to train UK workers

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 06/12/2025 11:52

His partner is a physiotherapist? Not a minimum wage care worker.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/12/2025 13:03

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 06/12/2025 11:52

His partner is a physiotherapist? Not a minimum wage care worker.

Yes he's a physio in a hospice which is light years from a minimum wage care worker

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 18:54

That’s almost more twatty than ZP’s original comment. What an idiotic gotcha.

ArabellaScott · 06/12/2025 18:59

'Some of my best friends wipe people's arses'.

Lalgarh · 07/12/2025 10:04

He'd actually generally come across as quite moderate on QT and the general Zackolyte vibe was quite strong on social media. Though I did notice he looked visibly pissed off at not getting to rebut some stuff from others esp Reform.

He'd also claimed that while we need to protect green space, every inch, we must build on brownfield about 1 million homes. He wasn't picked up on the apparent dissonance of saying refugees should be welcomed , but that they shouldn't be anywhere near that Sussex barracks Rachel Millward is campaigning about, not where they should be housed. Which would be one thing if the greens didn't also oppose building on brownfield too.

New statesman clip of Polanski and Ramsay

https://youtube.com/shorts/JyUhVor1Dbw?si=m2xFms0FaPVxNFaA

Before you continue to YouTube

https://youtube.com/shorts/JyUhVor1Dbw?si=m2xFms0FaPVxNFaA

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