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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today

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ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 15:42

They've shared a new selection of chants:

I can't link, as it's FB, but will attach a screen shot.

Trans Aid Cymru

'Our chants for tomorrow! 📢

Alt text:

Slide 1:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

Butches femmes, bottoms tops, everybody hates the cops

No justice, no peace! No racist police!

Oink oink piggy piggies! You’re not welcome in our city!

Kier Starmer - blood on your hands!
Wes Streeting - blood on your hands!
UK Labour - blood on your hands!
NHS - blood on your hands!
Hillary Cass - blood on your hands!

History will recall, Wes Streeting did nothing at all!

Wes Streeting/Kier Starmer’s a wasteman!

Slide 2:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

No borders, No nations- trans liberation!

Say it louder say it clear! Transphobia ain’t welcome here!

The queers united will never be defeated!

UK Government you’re all cowards! We the queers have the power!

We are the revolution! fuck transphobic institutions!

Give us hormones, give us love, rainbow logos are not enough!

not the courts, not the state, we decide our own fate!

HRT, HRT, over the counter and for free!

How many more have to die, before you stand up and fight?

Slide 3:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

1 - We are the queers
2 - We won’t be silent
3 - Trans liberation now now now!

We will not be quiet! Stonewall was a riot!

Fck your system, fck your hate, we are not here for debate!

We’re here, we’re queer, shove transphobia up your rear!

When trans women are under attack, what do we do?
Stand up fight back.

When trans kids are under attack, what do we do? Stand up fight back.

Slide 4:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

We will honour all our martyrs
All the children, sons and daughters
We will honour all our martyrs
All the parents, mothers fathers

The women of Gaza are revolutionary!

One struggle, one fight - Palestine, trans rights!'

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
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GCAcademic · 22/04/2025 11:18

Livpool · 22/04/2025 11:15

What are they wanting to be liberated from?!

Reality. Boundaries. Being told "no".

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2025 11:33

Chersfrozenface · Today 08:32

Goldie Lookin Chain have a number, released as a single in 2004, called "Your Mother's Got a Penis" - which was criticised for being "offensive to transsexuals".

The first time I heard that, I was behind two old ladies, in Iceland. One of them was mumbling cheerfully along with the song, then belted out, "Your mother's got a penis!"

Namechangechanged · 22/04/2025 11:51

GCAcademic · 22/04/2025 11:18

Reality. Boundaries. Being told "no".

Agree

They hate being told NO

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2025 12:01

Brefugee · Today 10:59

In German? Was it Sham 69 who did an English version of Hier Kommt Alex?

No, that was The Adicts, (single d) I thought they were the original, but after a chat with (almost certainly) Igneococcus, I learned that the Toten Hosen are much older than I'd realised.

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2025 12:07

Livpool · Today 11:15

What are they wanting to be liberated from?!

The tattered remains of their senses, I believe.

I saw the Maria Machlachan assault on another forum, before I was here. I was quite shocked that some posters minimised it, or claimed that she was the aggressor. They just lie shamelessly, they have nothing else.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/04/2025 12:30

I saw it in person. Several of the regular posters here did. It was awful. Then TRAs stood outside where we had the meeting and literally chanted “burn it down” outside.

Datun · 22/04/2025 12:32

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/04/2025 12:30

I saw it in person. Several of the regular posters here did. It was awful. Then TRAs stood outside where we had the meeting and literally chanted “burn it down” outside.

And it was already a substitute venue, because they had made the first venue pull out.

First time I ever saw or heard of Janice Turner. She was standing back, leaning against the wall, and watched the whole thing

Brefugee · 22/04/2025 12:34

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2025 12:01

Brefugee · Today 10:59

In German? Was it Sham 69 who did an English version of Hier Kommt Alex?

No, that was The Adicts, (single d) I thought they were the original, but after a chat with (almost certainly) Igneococcus, I learned that the Toten Hosen are much older than I'd realised.

i'll have to look, I'm sure a band i've heard of had done Alex in English. Campino is a bit older than me i think (deffo over 60)

GreenFriedTomato · 22/04/2025 12:40

fromorbit · 22/04/2025 06:07

The Palestine stuff is hilarious.
The London demo was 80 90% white.

Muslims are not going to help the TAs. Wait and see.

That's pretty evident by their notable absence on trans rights demos. They're just piggybacking another cause as usual

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2025 12:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 12:30

Then TRAs stood outside where we had the meeting and literally chanted “burn it down” outside.

That's just so awful and as so often, the Police stood by and did nothing. Unlike last year's riots.

JellySaurus · 22/04/2025 13:33

Piggybacking? You are excessively generous. It's another incidence of forced teaming.

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 22/04/2025 15:14

Those chants make them sound unhinged 🙄

Livpool · 22/04/2025 15:40

GCAcademic · 22/04/2025 11:18

Reality. Boundaries. Being told "no".

Does seem like that!

GenericMNwoman · 22/04/2025 15:41

ArtificialFlower · 21/04/2025 16:43

Is that because you have to go private or because you’re not in England? I’m in England, can get mine on NHS prescription (not sure why I lucked out there) and buy a HRT prepayment certificate which covers the lot and costs me £20/year. Just in case that information helps anyone.

Sorry for the derail

Probably really late to this, but here’s where you can see about prepayment certificates for HRT www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/help-nhs-prescription-costs/nhs-hormone-replacement-therapy-prescription-prepayment-certificate-hrt-ppc

Livpool · 22/04/2025 15:42

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2025 12:07

Livpool · Today 11:15

What are they wanting to be liberated from?!

The tattered remains of their senses, I believe.

I saw the Maria Machlachan assault on another forum, before I was here. I was quite shocked that some posters minimised it, or claimed that she was the aggressor. They just lie shamelessly, they have nothing else.

I agree.

It is disappointing when it is women minimising

cariadlet · 22/04/2025 15:45

NotTerfNorCis · 22/04/2025 11:15

It's very much part of TRA mythology that they are the primary victims of everything. If there's violence between a male and a female, if the male 'identifies as a woman', then he must be the victim. This victimhood mentality comes out strongly in the 'Trans Day of Remembrance', and in attempts to centre trans people in the Holocaust. Sophie Labelle, for instance, recently produced a cartoon with the text 'when the Nazis seized power in 1933, one of the first things they did was to burn down Hirschfield's Institute for Sexual Science, a research and healthcare center for trans, intersex and queer people. More than a million homosexual men, which designated gay men and trans-feminine people alike, were persecuted, castrated, instutionalised, killed or forced into concentration camps... Denying these facts is Holocaust denial.' People have been quick to point out that only three or four trans people were known to have been killed in the Holocaust, of whom two were Jewish. Also the number of gay men persecuted was substantially lower.

Didn't some photos emerge over the last few years of lots of cross dressing nazis?

I didn't see them on a GC website or SM. I think it was somewhere more mainstream like the bbc or a history website.

That undermined the idea of nazis persecuting trans people.

Lark1ane · 22/04/2025 19:30

It was mostly gay men who were persecuted as homosexuality was a criminal offence, but cross dressing was not. So the "trans" people were mostly gay transvestites.

cariadlet · 22/04/2025 19:44

@Lark1ane
Yes, that's it. I read an article somewhere about that book.

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