Cardiff March for trans liberation, today

[ArabellaScott]

They've shared a new selection of chants:

I can't link, as it's FB, but will attach a screen shot.

Trans Aid Cymru

'Our chants for tomorrow! 📢

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Slide 1:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

Butches femmes, bottoms tops, everybody hates the cops

No justice, no peace! No racist police!

Oink oink piggy piggies! You’re not welcome in our city!

Kier Starmer - blood on your hands!
Wes Streeting - blood on your hands!
UK Labour - blood on your hands!
NHS - blood on your hands!
Hillary Cass - blood on your hands!

History will recall, Wes Streeting did nothing at all!

Wes Streeting/Kier Starmer’s a wasteman!

Slide 2:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

No borders, No nations- trans liberation!

Say it louder say it clear! Transphobia ain’t welcome here!

The queers united will never be defeated!

UK Government you’re all cowards! We the queers have the power!

We are the revolution! fuck transphobic institutions!

Give us hormones, give us love, rainbow logos are not enough!

not the courts, not the state, we decide our own fate!

HRT, HRT, over the counter and for free!

How many more have to die, before you stand up and fight?

Slide 3:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

1 - We are the queers
2 - We won’t be silent
3 - Trans liberation now now now!

We will not be quiet! Stonewall was a riot!

Fck your system, fck your hate, we are not here for debate!

We’re here, we’re queer, shove transphobia up your rear!

When trans women are under attack, what do we do?
Stand up fight back.

When trans kids are under attack, what do we do? Stand up fight back.

Slide 4:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

We will honour all our martyrs
All the children, sons and daughters
We will honour all our martyrs
All the parents, mothers fathers

The women of Gaza are revolutionary!

One struggle, one fight - Palestine, trans rights!'

I remember the Toten Hosen version of this as well.

Blunt, succinct, bang on the point.

Good article which spells it out.

Ooo, first obscure composer reference of the day! Ding ding, prize for @Igneococcus!

Our cats get named after obscure composers, obscure composers could be my Mastermind specialist subject.

Now I need to know what your cats’ names are!

Their testicles?

"No borders, No nations- trans liberation!"

This has to be my favourite. Sounds like a slogan for a transports company.

The martyrs stuff is appalling: they are obtusely stupid people, don't have a clue what they are saying.

Exactly.

Who is going to pay for the free hormones if we've dismantled the state?

Tossers.

That 'HRT, HRT...' chant sounds like Goldie Lookin Chain, they have a song called HRT. They're Welsh too, so perfect for Cardiff 😆

I don't think I've ever been to a protest where they've basically given a handout of every chant they've got. Maybe that's normal but I've never experienced it. I hope they'll have a teacher at the front of the class in case they forget the words.

We get hurt for free in Wales… if it is available that is.

They can get free tampons or pads at any library in Wales.

They normally have some bellowing men leading the chanting.

Goldie Lookin Chain have a number, released as a single in 2004, called "Your Mother's Got a Penis" - which was criticised for being "offensive to transsexuals".

Some people have no sense of humour.

@Igneococcus, I take that back - if they’re super obscure, that could be outing. I shall just imagine all the possible obscure composers you could have named them after…

In Welsh perhaps? Would anyone notice?
Caniatáu i ddynion stripio chwilio menywod'
'Rhowch dreiswyr mewn carchardai benywaidd'
'Gadewch i ddynion gystadlu mewn chwaraeon menywod'
'Ni ddylai meddygon gwrywaidd fod angen gofyn am ganiatâd cyn archwilio menywod yn agos'
'Gwrthod gofal o'r un rhyw i fenywod anabl'

I'll send you a PM

I can imagine. Way back when Maria McLachlan was assaulted in Hyde Park, I watched the video footage several times (the unedited one, there was one circulated which had been carefully edited to make it look as if this small, slight 60-yo with osteoporosis had gone up to the 6'+ trans-identified 20something male and attacked him when in fact two or more young men clearly attacked her and took her camera, which she tried to get back, so one of them punched her).

There was a telling bit where another hulking male got really angry with one of the young women present (on their side). I've no idea what he was saying but the body language and facial expression was unmistakeable. I'd guess that the young woman had committed the unforgivable sin of expressing reservations about the wisdom of stealing, perhaps even shown some signs of concern and compassion for Maria. Well, that would have had to be dealt with. The cowed look on the young woman's face has stayed with me. The way she looked down at the ground while this brute harangued her. I'd like to think it was a wake up call for her and/or some of the other young women present.

Friend of Mumsnet Joss Prior circulated the version that all the TRAs used to claim Maria was the aggressor.

The Socialist Workers must have quite a sizable cottage industry which involves making signs and banners and transporting them to demos. I Used to live on a peace camp in the early 1980s...and SWP and WRP members would always turn up in their shemags. Shemag wearing has always been a thing in radical left circles, even when people have had no real clue about the nature and history of 'the conflict'. It's just part of the uniform.

I'm not sure how it fits into the business model since they sold the print shop, but that's always been the style. Turn up with hundreds of signs, hand them out to any punter who walks by, and you look much bigger than you are.

At least the Trot branded signs stick with something vague and high level like "trans rights are human rights" or "resist the Supreme Court". It's the handwritten TRA signs that get spicy.

As someone who grew up in one of the Emirates, the idea that this cause is related to the Palestinian cause is comical. It never gets old. The Arab world is about as "binary" as it is possible to be - they aren't interested in this ideology. Countries like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Qatar, and Jordan will bar entry to holders of passports lacking a traditional "M" or "F" and I wasn't in the least bit surprised not to find any coverage of the UK Supreme Court ruling in the UAE press because the ruling was about as much of a "landmark" as a court ruling that water was wet.

In German? Was it Sham 69 who did an English version of Hier Kommt Alex?

Interesting observation by pp that rights suddenly are now like pie.

No not in German, but the Sham singer was involved. I don't think it was Sham 69 that did Alex.

It's very much part of TRA mythology that they are the primary victims of everything. If there's violence between a male and a female, if the male 'identifies as a woman', then he must be the victim. This victimhood mentality comes out strongly in the 'Trans Day of Remembrance', and in attempts to centre trans people in the Holocaust. Sophie Labelle, for instance, recently produced a cartoon with the text 'when the Nazis seized power in 1933, one of the first things they did was to burn down Hirschfield's Institute for Sexual Science, a research and healthcare center for trans, intersex and queer people. More than a million homosexual men, which designated gay men and trans-feminine people alike, were persecuted, castrated, instutionalised, killed or forced into concentration camps... Denying these facts is Holocaust denial.' People have been quick to point out that only three or four trans people were known to have been killed in the Holocaust, of whom two were Jewish. Also the number of gay men persecuted was substantially lower.

What are they wanting to be liberated from?!