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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today

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ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 15:42

They've shared a new selection of chants:

I can't link, as it's FB, but will attach a screen shot.

Trans Aid Cymru

'Our chants for tomorrow! 📢

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Slide 1:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

Butches femmes, bottoms tops, everybody hates the cops

No justice, no peace! No racist police!

Oink oink piggy piggies! You’re not welcome in our city!

Kier Starmer - blood on your hands!
Wes Streeting - blood on your hands!
UK Labour - blood on your hands!
NHS - blood on your hands!
Hillary Cass - blood on your hands!

History will recall, Wes Streeting did nothing at all!

Wes Streeting/Kier Starmer’s a wasteman!

Slide 2:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

No borders, No nations- trans liberation!

Say it louder say it clear! Transphobia ain’t welcome here!

The queers united will never be defeated!

UK Government you’re all cowards! We the queers have the power!

We are the revolution! fuck transphobic institutions!

Give us hormones, give us love, rainbow logos are not enough!

not the courts, not the state, we decide our own fate!

HRT, HRT, over the counter and for free!

How many more have to die, before you stand up and fight?

Slide 3:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

1 - We are the queers
2 - We won’t be silent
3 - Trans liberation now now now!

We will not be quiet! Stonewall was a riot!

Fck your system, fck your hate, we are not here for debate!

We’re here, we’re queer, shove transphobia up your rear!

When trans women are under attack, what do we do?
Stand up fight back.

When trans kids are under attack, what do we do? Stand up fight back.

Slide 4:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

We will honour all our martyrs
All the children, sons and daughters
We will honour all our martyrs
All the parents, mothers fathers

The women of Gaza are revolutionary!

One struggle, one fight - Palestine, trans rights!'

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/04/2025 17:46

Calling · 21/04/2025 17:41

Are they non-Welsh speaking students from Cardiff and Bristol unis and various other useful idiots.

I remember reading some non binary people saying that Welsh should change to suit their identity because it erased them, or something.

thevassal · 21/04/2025 17:48

cariadlet · 21/04/2025 15:49

I recognise the "HRT, HRT, Over the counter and for free," chant.
There was a group of Antifa wannabes (all male) who decided to lead the chanting at the Brighton Women's March. This was one of theirs.

the irony being that, as @cardibach has pointed out, in Wales, if prescribed (and available!) they would get HRT for free.

which does tend to support the view that a large number of the same people seem to be bussed in and 'do the rounds' of all the various marches (and assimilate various causes together) rather than being an organic gathering of people who actually live there.

@ArtificialFlower all prescriptions are free on the NHS in Wales. Our waiting lists are utterly shit though, so personally I'd rather pay the comparatively small amount and not wait 5 years for surgery, but Welsh Labour keep pushing it as a win.

Silversixpenny · 21/04/2025 17:52

What we need to do now is get on with our lives with the SC clarification as the reality that it is and we live by.

Just carrying on as biological females and ignoring all the crap, and reporting it sensibly and calmly when that definition isncrossed so we have a paper trail, as FWS did, will drive them ABSOLUTELY crazy!

Ignore, boycott, challenge, maliciously comply where necessary, and live our lives, ladies :)

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 21/04/2025 17:52

Calling · 21/04/2025 17:41

Are they non-Welsh speaking students from Cardiff and Bristol unis and various other useful idiots.

The vast majority of people in Cardiff (and Swansea, where I am) can't speak Welsh. It's not just people who come in from outside Wales.

While we're taught it in school, most of us are no better at it than we are at French, we've forgotten it all by the time we're 20. You only really get high levels of Welsh spoken outside of the majority cities.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 21/04/2025 17:52

WaffleParty · 21/04/2025 16:49

So if you acknowledge that the majority on the rally do not support these messages what is your point in posting them all in full?

Trying to stir up hate?

Do you not get tired of looking for something to be offended/outraged/upset by? Are women not allowed to laugh amongst ourselves now? Maybe if they stopped making themselves ridiculous we would stop finding them funny.

Chersfrozenface · 21/04/2025 17:53

No borders, No nations- trans liberation!

And yet Plaid Cymru, a nationalist party, supports the genderborg.

Numpties as they are. Signed, a former supporter.

Silversixpenny · 21/04/2025 17:55

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 21/04/2025 17:52

Do you not get tired of looking for something to be offended/outraged/upset by? Are women not allowed to laugh amongst ourselves now? Maybe if they stopped making themselves ridiculous we would stop finding them funny.

This is just the current attenpt at men trying (and I'll emphasise TRYING!!) to control women.

Won't work, and in this media age we can document it all so the generations of girls and women to come can know what we did, whether big or small, to defend our sex and, hopefully, be emboldened to rally and defend themselves when (unfortunately) the next attempt comes.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 21/04/2025 17:56

thevassal · 21/04/2025 17:48

the irony being that, as @cardibach has pointed out, in Wales, if prescribed (and available!) they would get HRT for free.

which does tend to support the view that a large number of the same people seem to be bussed in and 'do the rounds' of all the various marches (and assimilate various causes together) rather than being an organic gathering of people who actually live there.

@ArtificialFlower all prescriptions are free on the NHS in Wales. Our waiting lists are utterly shit though, so personally I'd rather pay the comparatively small amount and not wait 5 years for surgery, but Welsh Labour keep pushing it as a win.

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which does tend to support the view that a large number of the same people seem to be bussed in and 'do the rounds' of all the various marches

Oh, we know this. As one example, a ginger bloke with a ponytail popped up in photos from the JamJar Siege in Bristol, having been filmed at the Speakers' Corner incident where Tanis Wolf punched Maria M. It's a rent-a-mob, the same ones everywhere.

Chersfrozenface · 21/04/2025 18:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/04/2025 17:46

I remember reading some non binary people saying that Welsh should change to suit their identity because it erased them, or something.

They complained about Welsh being a grammatically gendered language.

It has two genders, masculine and feminine, like French - it has no neuter like German or Old English. So a chair is feminine and a table is masculine or feminine depending on the word used.

Apparently this is s crime against their rights.

Silversixpenny · 21/04/2025 18:04

Chersfrozenface · 21/04/2025 18:00

They complained about Welsh being a grammatically gendered language.

It has two genders, masculine and feminine, like French - it has no neuter like German or Old English. So a chair is feminine and a table is masculine or feminine depending on the word used.

Apparently this is s crime against their rights.

But also, language gender isn't the same. It's to do with how you pronounce the words.

In English we don't have it, butcwe do use it:

"The pear" - Thuh pear

"The apple" Thee apple.

These entitled idiots are banking on intimidation and accusations of hate etc to reasoned logic.

Helleofabore · 21/04/2025 18:06

PaintDecisions · 21/04/2025 17:15

Found the comments on Facebook. Some are absolutely hilarious.

A personal favourite (which seems to be genuine and from a trans identifying male):
"If you have a problem with these chants then you're not a safe space for trans people. Solidarity with all oppressed people everywhere 🇵🇸🏳️‍⚧️"

See also this one from an NB:
"to everyone in this comment section talking about "reconsider the chants about gaza".... how do you not understand that this is all a fight against the same machine??? palestinian liberation is inherently linked to trans rights because we are so much stronger together. i beg you all to rethink your position of only caring about this one specific issue and arguing about whether we should be chanting about palestine when a) people are dying right now while you're quibbling about this and b) these struggles have always and will always be hand in hand "

The cognitive dissonance is real....

They are not even trying to keep the quiet bit hidden.

They want to leverage themselves into any issue they can.

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 18:11

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 21/04/2025 17:16

Highlighting how out-of-touch the organisers are with their own community?

I think what we are seeing in the comments is a bunch of people who are suddenly being exposed to the actual aggression and illogic of the movement. They thought it was all fluffy 'trans rights are human rights' (which everyone knows and agrees with) and are now seeing that it also includes some very unhinged and disturbed messages, like 'kill terfs' etc.

Must be quite unnerving.

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Freysimo · 21/04/2025 18:12

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/04/2025 17:46

I remember reading some non binary people saying that Welsh should change to suit their identity because it erased them, or something.

Don't be giving the current Welsh Labour Government any ideas, they're daft enough to do it.

Windscreenviper · 21/04/2025 18:14

Chersfrozenface · 21/04/2025 18:00

They complained about Welsh being a grammatically gendered language.

It has two genders, masculine and feminine, like French - it has no neuter like German or Old English. So a chair is feminine and a table is masculine or feminine depending on the word used.

Apparently this is s crime against their rights.

One more thing to add to the list of fantastically stupid excuses for acting like an utter fuckwit.

It's like arguing with my eight-year-old granddaughter, who seems for some reason to think that the Earth is flat, that scientists make everything up, and that scientists are also preventing people from visiting the Antarctic because there is another world there that they are hiding from us.

At least with a child, they can find out soon enough that their beliefs are silly and wrong, and they aren't harming other people by holding those silly, wrong beliefs.

Llamasarellovely · 21/04/2025 18:16

WhatterySquash · 21/04/2025 16:59

And the strip searching permission and arresting/NCHI-ing people for suffragette ribbons and asking what sex someone is. And turning a blind eye to incitement to murder.

"APART from all that, what have the police ever done for us!?"

Did they arrest on demand for nothing?

Will no one think of the bobble hats?

JellySaurus · 21/04/2025 18:18

I wonder whether they have any concept of what it is like to be gay, lesbian, or gender-non-conforming - let alone trans! - in the Middle-East, Arab or Asian countries?

I wonder whether they have any idea where the largest Pride in the whole of the Asian continent is held? Israel.

From the river to the sea, hmm? They think that wiping out Israel will give trans people greater freedom?

MelOfTheRoses · 21/04/2025 18:21

Rent-a-Chant 🤣

Witchymadwoman · 21/04/2025 18:24

Hoppinggreen · 21/04/2025 15:45

What do they want to be liberated from exactly?

The rule of law?

Brefugee · 21/04/2025 18:31

cariadlet · 21/04/2025 15:49

I recognise the "HRT, HRT, Over the counter and for free," chant.
There was a group of Antifa wannabes (all male) who decided to lead the chanting at the Brighton Women's March. This was one of theirs.

hilarious - menopausal women should join in. and point out that for transwomen it is Cross Sex, or opposite sex, Hormones. These hormones are replacing nothing.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 21/04/2025 18:48

Chersfrozenface · 21/04/2025 18:00

They complained about Welsh being a grammatically gendered language.

It has two genders, masculine and feminine, like French - it has no neuter like German or Old English. So a chair is feminine and a table is masculine or feminine depending on the word used.

Apparently this is s crime against their rights.

They must absolutely hate the Italian language then, as it’s the same, words are masculine or feminine.

Winterwonders24 · 21/04/2025 18:55

Hoppinggreen · 21/04/2025 15:45

What do they want to be liberated from exactly?

Reality?

GreenFriedTomato · 21/04/2025 18:57

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 16:44

I suspect they've missed off a wee comma, there and it should be 'bottoms, tops', referring to submissive and dominant participants in BDSM, respectively.

And gay men. Recipients vs givers (for want of a better word

Winterwonders24 · 21/04/2025 19:05

WaffleParty · 21/04/2025 16:49

So if you acknowledge that the majority on the rally do not support these messages what is your point in posting them all in full?

Trying to stir up hate?

You're saying @ArabellaScott is stirring up hate by reporting what a vocal minority are singing at a demo? You shoot that messenger, cowboy!! 🤠

Chersfrozenface · 21/04/2025 19:06

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 21/04/2025 18:48

They must absolutely hate the Italian language then, as it’s the same, words are masculine or feminine.

The Italian for "a non-binary person" is "una persona non binaria".
'Persona' being grammatically feminine, and so also having the feminine form of the adjective, whatever the sex of the person in question.

And you have that reference in the Italian media to Eliot Sumner "l'attrice britannica non binaria".
'Actrice' being feminine and meaning 'actress' (the masculine equivalent is 'attore') and followed by the feminine forms of the adjectives meaning 'British' and 'non-binary'.

Laugh? I nearly drank my own pint!

thevassal · 21/04/2025 19:09

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 21/04/2025 17:52

The vast majority of people in Cardiff (and Swansea, where I am) can't speak Welsh. It's not just people who come in from outside Wales.

While we're taught it in school, most of us are no better at it than we are at French, we've forgotten it all by the time we're 20. You only really get high levels of Welsh spoken outside of the majority cities.

there's actually a comparatively high level of Welsh in Cardiff because so many jobs are based there that require (or at least prefer) Welsh - the senedd, the welsh govt, bbc wales, s4c, etc. There are some very welsh-y enclaves in Pontcanna, for example, many of whom work in welsh media. Approximately 1/6th of all schools in Cardiff are welsh language (at all levels).

In the last census Cardiff actually had the biggest increase in welsh speakers out of every local authority in the whole country.

Then there will of course be other people who aren't fluent but wouldn't be classed as 'non-welsh speakers' either.

Still a minority but not a 'vast' majority either.

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