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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today

219 replies

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 15:42

They've shared a new selection of chants:

I can't link, as it's FB, but will attach a screen shot.

Trans Aid Cymru

'Our chants for tomorrow! 📢

Alt text:

Slide 1:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

Butches femmes, bottoms tops, everybody hates the cops

No justice, no peace! No racist police!

Oink oink piggy piggies! You’re not welcome in our city!

Kier Starmer - blood on your hands!
Wes Streeting - blood on your hands!
UK Labour - blood on your hands!
NHS - blood on your hands!
Hillary Cass - blood on your hands!

History will recall, Wes Streeting did nothing at all!

Wes Streeting/Kier Starmer’s a wasteman!

Slide 2:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

No borders, No nations- trans liberation!

Say it louder say it clear! Transphobia ain’t welcome here!

The queers united will never be defeated!

UK Government you’re all cowards! We the queers have the power!

We are the revolution! fuck transphobic institutions!

Give us hormones, give us love, rainbow logos are not enough!

not the courts, not the state, we decide our own fate!

HRT, HRT, over the counter and for free!

How many more have to die, before you stand up and fight?

Slide 3:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

1 - We are the queers
2 - We won’t be silent
3 - Trans liberation now now now!

We will not be quiet! Stonewall was a riot!

Fck your system, fck your hate, we are not here for debate!

We’re here, we’re queer, shove transphobia up your rear!

When trans women are under attack, what do we do?
Stand up fight back.

When trans kids are under attack, what do we do? Stand up fight back.

Slide 4:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

We will honour all our martyrs
All the children, sons and daughters
We will honour all our martyrs
All the parents, mothers fathers

The women of Gaza are revolutionary!

One struggle, one fight - Palestine, trans rights!'

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
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ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 16:53

WaffleParty · 21/04/2025 16:49

So if you acknowledge that the majority on the rally do not support these messages what is your point in posting them all in full?

Trying to stir up hate?

Read again. The majority of Facebook responses were not supportive.

Most of which were saying they would not attend the rally due to these chants.

I have no idea whether those on the rally are supportive or not, if they're chanting as instructed we.can assume they support the statements, no?

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Namechangechanged · 21/04/2025 16:54

Freysimo · 21/04/2025 16:50

Apparently they're encouraging participants to wear face masks. I wonder why?

Because they know deep down their mothers would whoop their arses for being so rude and disrespectful.

LegoTherapy · 21/04/2025 16:55

Goodness, what inarticulate nonsense they spew.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/04/2025 16:56

WaffleParty · 21/04/2025 16:49

So if you acknowledge that the majority on the rally do not support these messages what is your point in posting them all in full?

Trying to stir up hate?

Don't be silly. Having a good laugh at people making fools of themselves is not hate. Hate used to be a very strong word that was rightly kept for really extreme cases like murder or genocide. It was also used flippantly sometimes, but nobody described remarks borne out of mild irration and exasperation as hate.

WhatterySquash · 21/04/2025 16:59

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 16:45

Yes. Bit ungrateful after all the performative rainbow police cars and Pride marches.

And the strip searching permission and arresting/NCHI-ing people for suffragette ribbons and asking what sex someone is. And turning a blind eye to incitement to murder.

"APART from all that, what have the police ever done for us!?"

Kardamyli2 · 21/04/2025 17:04

And some people still say that thinking you're the opposite sex isn't a mental health issue 🤷‍♂️

JeremiahBullfrog · 21/04/2025 17:06

I am not sure the general populace actually shares the same level of mindless vindictive hatred of the police as exhibited by people who spend too much time on American websites, and accordingly most people may not be easily swayed by anti-police slogans that seem, at best, tangentially connected to the main political goal.

Helleofabore · 21/04/2025 17:08

99victoria · 21/04/2025 16:37

I'm an actual woman and I have to pay for my HRT - £85 every 3 months 😒

I know it is off topic and may have been addressed (sorry if I am cross posting) but are you not eligible for a prescription prepayment certificate?

https://www.gov.uk/get-a-ppc/hrt-ppc

Get a prescription prepayment certificate

NHS Business Services Authority contact number for ordering prepaid prescriptions for 3 or 12 months at a cheaper rate than single prescriptions

https://www.gov.uk/get-a-ppc/hrt-ppc

PaintDecisions · 21/04/2025 17:10

99victoria · 21/04/2025 16:37

I'm an actual woman and I have to pay for my HRT - £85 every 3 months 😒

Why so much? I have a 12 month prepayment certificate, it's much cheaper especially if you have any other prescriptions (which I do).

https://www.gov.uk/get-a-ppc

VeraWangTea · 21/04/2025 17:15

Someone got a bit excited with AI

PaintDecisions · 21/04/2025 17:15

Found the comments on Facebook. Some are absolutely hilarious.

A personal favourite (which seems to be genuine and from a trans identifying male):
"If you have a problem with these chants then you're not a safe space for trans people. Solidarity with all oppressed people everywhere 🇵🇸🏳️‍⚧️"

See also this one from an NB:
"to everyone in this comment section talking about "reconsider the chants about gaza".... how do you not understand that this is all a fight against the same machine??? palestinian liberation is inherently linked to trans rights because we are so much stronger together. i beg you all to rethink your position of only caring about this one specific issue and arguing about whether we should be chanting about palestine when a) people are dying right now while you're quibbling about this and b) these struggles have always and will always be hand in hand "

The cognitive dissonance is real....

IDontHateRainbows · 21/04/2025 17:16

AlexandraLeaving · 21/04/2025 15:49

It is noticeable that there is no line “When transmen are under attack/at risk of losing their rights…”

I noticed that.
Male rights movement, anyone?

Windscreenviper · 21/04/2025 17:16

PyrannosaurusRex · 21/04/2025 15:55

Liberation from the bigoted shackles of scansion, I think.

Edited

Thank you for giving this weary pedant some highly liberating guffawing this afternoon.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 21/04/2025 17:16

WaffleParty · 21/04/2025 16:49

So if you acknowledge that the majority on the rally do not support these messages what is your point in posting them all in full?

Trying to stir up hate?

Highlighting how out-of-touch the organisers are with their own community?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/04/2025 17:17

For god's sake. What a lot of childish pant wetting.

All because they were told that women also have human rights.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/04/2025 17:18

And why do they hate the police?

Don't they realise that the police are total TRAs? Especially in Cardiff where they arrested a disabled woman for putting up feminist stickers.

IDontHateRainbows · 21/04/2025 17:18

VioletSpeedwell · 21/04/2025 16:42

Dare I ask what bottom tops are ?

You probably don't dare
Think it refers to ahem whether you're a giver ( top) or a receiver ( bottom)

BiologicalRobot · 21/04/2025 17:23

UK Government you’re all cowards! We the queers have the power!

I mean... they aren't far wrong.

HPFA · 21/04/2025 17:27

WhatterySquash · 21/04/2025 16:35

HRT, HRT, over the counter and for free!

Where from and how, when you've rejected/dismantled the state, the government, the NHS, and the "system"?

That's what I was thinking.

How do they think they'll get free HRT without a functioning nation state?

Calling · 21/04/2025 17:38

needmoresheep · 21/04/2025 16:01

I can’t get HRT!

Are they trying to get HRT specifically for themselves? Or can we all have access to it?

They are probably only thinking of themselves, being the Most Oppressed People of All Time.😜

Calling · 21/04/2025 17:41

Freysimo · 21/04/2025 16:45

I doubt they're Welsh, we're much too sensible.

Are they non-Welsh speaking students from Cardiff and Bristol unis and various other useful idiots.

Datun · 21/04/2025 17:41

We’re here, we’re queer, shove transphobia up your rear!

I'm a woman, you're a farce, shove your tantrums up your arse

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/04/2025 17:44

Love that @Datun🤣🤣🤣

Datun · 21/04/2025 17:44

😆

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 21/04/2025 17:45

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 15:42

They've shared a new selection of chants:

I can't link, as it's FB, but will attach a screen shot.

Trans Aid Cymru

'Our chants for tomorrow! 📢

Alt text:

Slide 1:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

Butches femmes, bottoms tops, everybody hates the cops

No justice, no peace! No racist police!

Oink oink piggy piggies! You’re not welcome in our city!

Kier Starmer - blood on your hands!
Wes Streeting - blood on your hands!
UK Labour - blood on your hands!
NHS - blood on your hands!
Hillary Cass - blood on your hands!

History will recall, Wes Streeting did nothing at all!

Wes Streeting/Kier Starmer’s a wasteman!

Slide 2:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

No borders, No nations- trans liberation!

Say it louder say it clear! Transphobia ain’t welcome here!

The queers united will never be defeated!

UK Government you’re all cowards! We the queers have the power!

We are the revolution! fuck transphobic institutions!

Give us hormones, give us love, rainbow logos are not enough!

not the courts, not the state, we decide our own fate!

HRT, HRT, over the counter and for free!

How many more have to die, before you stand up and fight?

Slide 3:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

1 - We are the queers
2 - We won’t be silent
3 - Trans liberation now now now!

We will not be quiet! Stonewall was a riot!

Fck your system, fck your hate, we are not here for debate!

We’re here, we’re queer, shove transphobia up your rear!

When trans women are under attack, what do we do?
Stand up fight back.

When trans kids are under attack, what do we do? Stand up fight back.

Slide 4:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

We will honour all our martyrs
All the children, sons and daughters
We will honour all our martyrs
All the parents, mothers fathers

The women of Gaza are revolutionary!

One struggle, one fight - Palestine, trans rights!'

And they say this isn’t a mental health issue, I don’t know what else you’d call it.