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Cardiff March for trans liberation, today

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ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 15:42

They've shared a new selection of chants:

I can't link, as it's FB, but will attach a screen shot.

Trans Aid Cymru

'Our chants for tomorrow! 📢

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Slide 1:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

Butches femmes, bottoms tops, everybody hates the cops

No justice, no peace! No racist police!

Oink oink piggy piggies! You’re not welcome in our city!

Kier Starmer - blood on your hands!
Wes Streeting - blood on your hands!
UK Labour - blood on your hands!
NHS - blood on your hands!
Hillary Cass - blood on your hands!

History will recall, Wes Streeting did nothing at all!

Wes Streeting/Kier Starmer’s a wasteman!

Slide 2:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

No borders, No nations- trans liberation!

Say it louder say it clear! Transphobia ain’t welcome here!

The queers united will never be defeated!

UK Government you’re all cowards! We the queers have the power!

We are the revolution! fuck transphobic institutions!

Give us hormones, give us love, rainbow logos are not enough!

not the courts, not the state, we decide our own fate!

HRT, HRT, over the counter and for free!

How many more have to die, before you stand up and fight?

Slide 3:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

1 - We are the queers
2 - We won’t be silent
3 - Trans liberation now now now!

We will not be quiet! Stonewall was a riot!

Fck your system, fck your hate, we are not here for debate!

We’re here, we’re queer, shove transphobia up your rear!

When trans women are under attack, what do we do?
Stand up fight back.

When trans kids are under attack, what do we do? Stand up fight back.

Slide 4:

CARDIFF MARCH FOR TRANS LIBERATION
CHANT SHEET

We will honour all our martyrs
All the children, sons and daughters
We will honour all our martyrs
All the parents, mothers fathers

The women of Gaza are revolutionary!

One struggle, one fight - Palestine, trans rights!'

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/04/2025 20:20

WaffleParty · 21/04/2025 20:06

I question the motives when the first - massively long - post is all about how some protesters are using stupid messages and then there’s a p.s. acknowledging that the majority of trans people and their allies do not support this nonsense.
Mass protests always attract nutters. Nature of the beast. It doesn’t mean trans people don’t have genuine reasons to challenge the unnecessary aggression coming their way.

No, mass protests don't always attract nutters.

I went to a protest with over a million people in 2016 and there were zero nutters.

In what world is threatening to kill "TERFs" a reasonable response to being told that your rights don't trump women's?

And they wonder why we don't want people like that in our rape crisis groups and women's shelters?

RaininSummer · 21/04/2025 20:21

These are hilarious.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 21/04/2025 20:24

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/04/2025 20:20

No, mass protests don't always attract nutters.

I went to a protest with over a million people in 2016 and there were zero nutters.

In what world is threatening to kill "TERFs" a reasonable response to being told that your rights don't trump women's?

And they wonder why we don't want people like that in our rape crisis groups and women's shelters?

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Oh but MissScarlett they aren't all like that you know!

Only some of them are murderous nutters!

🙄

The parallels with men who abuse women in relationships is so clear. She made me do it!

(And for avoidance of doubt by the hard of thinking- no, I am clearly not saying all trans women are abusers or behave like abusers. But some do. And some allies. It seems to be a feature, not a bug, of the movement overall) .

northwestgirl · 21/04/2025 20:25

they actually are, (hilarious I mean) especially the Palestinian ones

I wonder if any of them have ever met a Palestinian or indeed anyone from a non European, non white culture

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/04/2025 20:28

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 21/04/2025 20:24

Oh but MissScarlett they aren't all like that you know!

Only some of them are murderous nutters!

🙄

The parallels with men who abuse women in relationships is so clear. She made me do it!

(And for avoidance of doubt by the hard of thinking- no, I am clearly not saying all trans women are abusers or behave like abusers. But some do. And some allies. It seems to be a feature, not a bug, of the movement overall) .

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Unfortunately there seems to be a very strong positive correlation between how much of a murderous nutter they are and how entitled they feel to be in women's spaces.

Which is all the more reason to say no to all of them.

aylis · 21/04/2025 20:30

In fact not even just supported by the protests - it's the whole point of them.

DBSFstupid · 21/04/2025 20:32

lnks · 21/04/2025 15:51

Liberation from the unbearable burden of a country that has bent over backwards to indulge their every whim?

👏👏👏

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/04/2025 20:35

GreenFriedTomato · 21/04/2025 15:57

One struggle one fight Palestine and trans rights . Oh dear...

I haven't heard of the women of Gaza fighting for trans rights. Ever

And Keir Satermer is a wasteman.

Why are they using roadman slang?
I'm sure there aren't many of these TW in that particular community

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This image was taken at Palestinian rally.

A picture really can speak a thousand words:

Cardiff March for trans liberation, today
Lark1ane · 21/04/2025 20:37

That woman's face as she looks at him. So funny!

cariadlet · 21/04/2025 20:38

WaffleParty · 21/04/2025 20:06

I question the motives when the first - massively long - post is all about how some protesters are using stupid messages and then there’s a p.s. acknowledging that the majority of trans people and their allies do not support this nonsense.
Mass protests always attract nutters. Nature of the beast. It doesn’t mean trans people don’t have genuine reasons to challenge the unnecessary aggression coming their way.

I've been going on protests since the 80s, starting with CND and anti-apartheid marches. I went to the huge anti Brexit one (after the Referendum but before we had actually left the EU). Most recently I went on the NEU march during the teachers strike, the Restore Nature Now march and the Clean Water march.

All very good natured, the banners and placards were very creative and not a nutter in sight.

None of the demos I have taken part in have called for violence against people the participants disagreed with. Nor have they involved defacing statues or pissing in public.

DBSFstupid · 21/04/2025 20:39

Supporterofwomensrights · 21/04/2025 16:01

Somebody should ask Keir Starmer how sitting on the fence is working out for him.

😂

RedToothBrush · 21/04/2025 20:40

The OmniCause is Real.

Long live the OmniCause.

All hail the OmniCause.

We will find salvation in the OmniCause.

RedToothBrush · 21/04/2025 20:42

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/04/2025 20:35

This image was taken at Palestinian rally.

A picture really can speak a thousand words:

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Thomas Rylance as Thomas Cromwell.

That is all my friends.

GreenFriedTomato · 21/04/2025 20:44

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/04/2025 20:35

This image was taken at Palestinian rally.

A picture really can speak a thousand words:

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That image speaks volumes. I remain convinced that they aren't wanted there but they are seen as useful idiots and make up the numbers.
I wonder how many are invited to the mosque or a family home for post-protest snacks once they've finished banging and shouting. I mean they're marching together every Saturday- it would be the polite thing to do to say thanks for their support

Llamasarellovely · 21/04/2025 20:45

northwestgirl · 21/04/2025 20:25

they actually are, (hilarious I mean) especially the Palestinian ones

I wonder if any of them have ever met a Palestinian or indeed anyone from a non European, non white culture

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Are you suggesting they wear the ubiquitous keffiyeh performatively? How very dare you.
🤣

Silversixpenny · 21/04/2025 20:47

DBSFstupid · 21/04/2025 20:39

😂

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Splinters in his arse, presumably.

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ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 20:47

cariadlet · 21/04/2025 20:38

I've been going on protests since the 80s, starting with CND and anti-apartheid marches. I went to the huge anti Brexit one (after the Referendum but before we had actually left the EU). Most recently I went on the NEU march during the teachers strike, the Restore Nature Now march and the Clean Water march.

All very good natured, the banners and placards were very creative and not a nutter in sight.

None of the demos I have taken part in have called for violence against people the participants disagreed with. Nor have they involved defacing statues or pissing in public.

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Remember the anti Iraq war marches? Biggest demos in history, iirc. Absolutely zero aggressive or inflammatory signs that I ever saw.

They were about peace. Not demands that women submit and shut up.

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Silversixpenny · 21/04/2025 20:48

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/04/2025 20:28

Unfortunately there seems to be a very strong positive correlation between how much of a murderous nutter they are and how entitled they feel to be in women's spaces.

Which is all the more reason to say no to all of them.

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An unfortunate Venn diagram.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 21/04/2025 20:49

northwestgirl · 21/04/2025 20:25

they actually are, (hilarious I mean) especially the Palestinian ones

I wonder if any of them have ever met a Palestinian or indeed anyone from a non European, non white culture

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Most of them probably haven't met a Palestinian, but I would be astonished if they haven't met "anyone from a non European, non white culture".

Lark1ane · 21/04/2025 20:50

Thomas Rylance is very funny.
Have you seen what is written on his hand?
Does it say: Lava Mohamed Salah?

Perhaps he also collects footie cards? Does he think he will find one on a Palestian Rally 'cos everyone must have a picture of Mo on them?
(Although Mo is Egyptian, as any fule kno)
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RedToothBrush · 21/04/2025 20:53

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 20:47

Remember the anti Iraq war marches? Biggest demos in history, iirc. Absolutely zero aggressive or inflammatory signs that I ever saw.

They were about peace. Not demands that women submit and shut up.

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I did the don't attack Iraq protests.

I was alienated by the problem Palestine Trojans who were pro hamas.

It definitely was problematic for me.

I think I did two or three protests by myself (no one else I knew was interested).

It really made me question motivations.

I'm still glad I did the protests, but it was obvious to me then there was a hijacking agenda.

Sorry to suggest differently to your experience.

SameyMcNameChange · 21/04/2025 20:54

Imagine if the slogans/placards stated what they really want.

’Allow men to strip search women’
’Place rapists in female jails’
‘Let men compete in women’s sports’
’Male doctors shouldn’t need to ask for consent before intimately examining women’
’Deny disabled women same sex care’

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 21/04/2025 20:57

RedToothBrush · 21/04/2025 20:53

I did the don't attack Iraq protests.

I was alienated by the problem Palestine Trojans who were pro hamas.

It definitely was problematic for me.

I think I did two or three protests by myself (no one else I knew was interested).

It really made me question motivations.

I'm still glad I did the protests, but it was obvious to me then there was a hijacking agenda.

Sorry to suggest differently to your experience.

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There were a lot of pro Palestine signs left around the ones I went on - someone had left a load for people to pick up and wave.

So they got a bunch of people who probably weren't very pro Palestine (if at all) but fancied carrying a sign, who picked their signs up. Good tactic really.

Sorry, bit of a derail.

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ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 20:59

RedToothBrush · 21/04/2025 20:53

I did the don't attack Iraq protests.

I was alienated by the problem Palestine Trojans who were pro hamas.

It definitely was problematic for me.

I think I did two or three protests by myself (no one else I knew was interested).

It really made me question motivations.

I'm still glad I did the protests, but it was obvious to me then there was a hijacking agenda.

Sorry to suggest differently to your experience.

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It's fair enough if you had a different experience! I didn't see any of that at all.

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ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 21:01

There is often reference to the fact that Stonewall was a riot when talking about protest.

It may well be true, but imho peaceful protest is far more effective in the long run.

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