Yet more disgraceful NHS behaviour against nurses

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https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1903719814897586583?s=61&t=gKvvk-rWmOlYFGMZN8QVvQ
When a nurse with years of exemplary service is disciplined by the NHS for referring to a male prisoner brought into hospital in handcuffs as ‘Mister”, despite the same prisoner having to be restrained from attacking her and calling her n**r several times, then its clear the NHS is no longer fit for purpose.

Sorry, can only copy a photo of some of the article.

Good to have its own thread. Some discussion here with archive of Daily Mail article.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5285690-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-23?reply=143041254&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

Its a Daily Mail article: archive.fo/Ezh7U

This case really illustrates my main current concern, which is that the ideology is now so entrenched in all major institutions that IDK how we're going to move forwards. Individuals are prepared to break equality and employment laws because they believe they are justified, and know they can get away with it.

https://x.com/cconcern/status/1903744254624563694?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

This thread adds a little more.

Transgenderism has always relied on male privilege to subdue women and break down women’s boundaries. It takes balls to be a real laydeee.

And as we all know, soothing a male ego, even that of a racist paedophile, is much more important than providing good patient care etc.

She should sue.

Needless to say my sympathies are entirely with the nurse and the jobsworth management types that gave her the warnings need to be investigated.

Wes Streeting you're up.

If she does lose her job over this, I hope she sues them all, I know it's public money that will be wasted, but I'm pissed off with my money being used to commit crimes against decent hardworking professionals and I'm happy for my money to be used to get justice for a change.

Thanks for archive link.

Bloody hell.

Thank you for sharing OP and for the additional info from PPs, including the DM article.

Nestled in amongst the article is the fact that the patient called the nurse homophobic... and the nurse said that she had no issues with people's sexuality. I understand this to mean she is supportive of LGB relationships - plenty of Christian people are.

The sooner the public recognises that being LGB is factual and identifying as T is predicated on a belief in a gendered soul, the better.

My position is simple:

I don't share the nurse's stated belief that biological sex comes from god. But I support the right to hold this belief.

I don't share the patient's stated belief that a transwoman is a woman. But I support the right to hold this belief.

The law needs to recognise that there are bad actors, who use their stated belief to oppress others and, in some cases, demand that others accept their belief as fact. Thankfully Christians haven't done that for a while.

The stark contrast between the nurse respectfully explaining her belief, and her intention to care for the patient in a way that accommodated her own belief and that of the patient and the patient's behaviour is breathtaking. The NHS' response and handling of the situation even more so. What the actual fuckity fuck? The patient overheard the nurse describing key clinical information and chose to take offence at biological reality (and presumably the colloquial way FFS a nurse from outside the UK referred to a male patient as a "mister"). There's bugger all point in the doctor giving the nurse advice about gynecological catheter care when the patient has a male anatomy. Clarity regarding the patient is key - this is what the nurse did.

It's interesting that a white member of staff also referred to the patient as male, yet the patient is only gunning for this nurse.

I hope she wins and that the government recognises the need to clamp down on this ridiculous, damaging behaviour from the NHS.

She is suing.

From the article:

"In an unprecedented legal action, meanwhile, Ms Melle is suing the hospital trust for harassment, discrimination and human rights breaches. It is, of course, a case in which the NHS once again risks being accused of sacrificing common sense on the altar of gender ideology, and follows that of eight nurses from Darlington who took their trust to court after being forced to share a changing room with a biological man who identifies as a woman."

Nitter version. https://nitter.poast.org/cconcern/status/1903744254624563694?t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Ps to add... this nurse deserves praise, not investigation.

She upheld the Hippocratic Oath to deliver care to a patient who has been convicted of grooming children online, while identifying as the opposite sex (i.e. the children presumably thought they were talking to a woman, which is statistically safer by all objective measures, because most sex crime is perpetrated by males). She then went further and carried on trying to deliver care when verbally abused, simply following protocol to advise the patient that this abuse would not be tolerated. Well done that nurse 💪

Absolutely - it is all about getting women to acquiesce to men. Same old same old.

Just noticed a random FFS in this sentence...

(and presumably the colloquial way FFS a nurse from outside the UK referred to a male patient as a "mister")

D'oh. I was clearly feeling too angry that a caring nurse is being misrepresented in such an appalling way to notice the random rant that jumped in via autofill.

FFS indeed, though. At the situation, not at her use of the word "mister" to describe a male.

DEI:

Calling an obvious male a male, not to his face but on a phone call to a doctor who needed to know the sex of the patient for medical reasons - burn the person who said it at the stake.

A patient calling a nurse the most horrific of racial slurs and trying to attack her - all hail the patient.

It's difficult to comment without all the facts and some of the links have pay walls.

However Epsom & St Helier is my local hospital. The culture towards patients is disgraceful and I have complained many times about how in their outpatient departments women are called into appointments as Jane Smith; men are called to their appointments as Mr John Smith. Persistently this hospital trust affords women less respect than it affords men. In 2025 it is not good enough. The answer is to stop using titles altogether for both sexes.

I have sat in a clinic at that hospital and heard a man called as Mr John Smith and then addressed as "Sir". The woman who followed was called as Jane Smith and then addressed as "darlin".

I would very much like to have more details about the case because Epsom & St Helier has significant ingrained cultural issues in relation to equality and it isn't just in relation to sex.

I truly believe that the more these cases are exposed in the public sphere, the more chance there is to change the narrative. Who would have thought 10 years ago that the beloved establishment of which Britain used to be so proud, the mighty NHS, doesn’t actually know basic biology? This key piece of knowledge is the very foundation of health care.
Medics should be able to say to a patient with an identity crisis - ‘sorry pal, as you’re a bloke I need to check your prostrate’ without fear of persecution.

I think the fact that the nurse referred to a male prisoner as mister when speaking to the doctor on the phone, and as a result is the subject of an investigation, would suffice for me to know this is sheer lunacy.

I'd want all the facts before drawing a conclusion. I don't have them.

Fair enough.

I guess you'll have to wait until it all comes out in court.

In the meantime, if this were my local hospital I'd be very wary of their ability to follow good clinical practice if they are systematically shutting down staff members who try to do so e.g. a nurse who wants to talk about a male with a catheter and is told it's offensive to refer to the patient that way.

I'd need no more facts in order to be cautious about going there for care.

Oh, it's a hospital I refuse to use due to poor clinical practice. However, my concern is whether the nurse would have addressed the person as Ms/Miss/Mrs had they been a biological woman. My experience of this hospital is that overwhelmingly, its staff afford women less respect than they do men.

A copy of the Twitter thread:

BREAKING: CHRISTIAN NURSE TAKES LEGAL ACTION AFTER BEING INVESTIGATED BY NHS FOR CALLING 6FT TRANSGENDER PAEDOPHILE 'Mr'

The convicted paedophile, ‘Mr X’, is in a high security male prison after multiple convictions for luring boys into sex acts while pretending to be a teenage girl on social media.

After refusing to refer to Mr X as a ‘she’ while on duty, Jennifer Melle was racially abused and physically threatened.Instead of supporting her, however, Epsom and St Helier University Hospital Trust has abandoned Jennifer and treated her like the criminal.

The Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC) has also said Jennifer is ‘a potential risk’ for not using Mr X’s preferred ‘gender identity.’

The story is the latest in a series of cases where NHS policy supports trans ideology over biological reality. It also follows the publication of the Sullivan report this week which revealed that the police are allowing criminals to ‘self-identify’ their gender on official records.

In this case, policy has led, in the name of inclusivity, to the NHS siding with a paedophile convicted of serious offences, while pretending to be the opposite sex, over members of staff with Christian and gender-critical beliefs.

Supported by the Christian Legal Centre, the case Jennifer has now launched against the Trust on the grounds of harassment, discrimination and human rights’ breaches, is believed to be unprecedented.

In response to her claims, NHS lawyers have said that Christian beliefs Mis holds, that we are born male and female, are ‘not worthy of respect in a democratic society.’

Watch Jennifer discuss what happened and see more on our website: https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/christian-nurse-takes-legal-action-after-being-investigated-and-punished-by-nhs-for-calling-convicted-transgender-male-paedophile-mr/

On the night of May 22, 2024, Jennifer began her shift at the hospital, where a Pride Progress Flag—symbolising support for transgender rights and gender identity affirmation—flew from the rooftop.

Miss Melle, who came to the UK from Uganda as a child, and has worked her way up to become a senior nurse, had been told along with her colleagues that Mr X had been brought in for treatment from a Category C men’s prison and was a sex offender.

He entered the hospital chained to two guards and was clearly masculine in appearance, standing over six feet tall and of large build.

At 10pm, a junior colleague approached Miss Melle in a distressed state saying that Mr X wanted to self-discharge. He was shouting and upsetting other elderly and vulnerable patients on the ward.

The doctor had been called for guidance on the discharge but had not yet responded. As the senior nurse on the ward, Jennifer followed her colleague to take charge of the situation and to provide support.

Looking at the patient’s medical records, she saw that the patient was recorded as male, not female or transgender. On the name board next to the bed, it simply gave the feminine name.

With her colleague finally getting through to the doctor on the phone, Jennifer requested to speak to him. She said to the doctor that: ‘Mr X would like to self-discharge.’

Overhearing the call, enraged Mr X screamed: “Do not call me Mr! I am a woman!”

Still on the phone to the doctor, Jennifer called back to Mr X that she was speaking to the doctor and was working out what medication could be given before he was discharged.

Finishing the call, she approached the patient’s room. Stepping inside, Jennifer found Mr X pacing up and down in chains.

Jennifer politely said: ‘I am sorry I cannot refer to you as her or she, as it’s against my faith and Christian values but I can call you by your name.’

She then began to relay what the doctor had said, but then the abuse and vitriol escalated.

‘Imagine if I called you n∗∗∗∗∗’, Mr X yelled. ‘How about I call you n∗∗∗∗∗? Yes, black n∗∗∗∗∗!’

Jennifer said if he carried on, she would have to call security.

Mr X then lunged threateningly towards Jennifer and pursued her out of the room until he was eventually held back by the guards.

He then shouted: ‘I want your name and NHS number and am going to report you to the police for homophobia and to Patient Advice and Liaison Service’ (PALS).

One of the guards approached Jennifer and said: ‘Why can’t you just call him what he wants?’

Jennifer reiterated what she had already said about her Christian beliefs, and the guard said no more.

Returning, Jennifer said, using Mr X’s feminine name: ‘I got you your pain relief.’

After having the painkillers, Mr X calmed down and was quiet until the morning.

https://christianconcern.com/cccases/jennifer-melle/

Afraid and upset, but keeping it inside, Jennifer handed over to colleagues on the next shift but felt unable to speak to anyone about what had happened.

Shortly after arriving home, Jennifer received a call from a colleague who had taken over her shift. They said that Mr X had been shouting for her and repeating the threat that he was going to make a complaint to PALS.

Sleepless nights followed.

The next time Jennifer was on night shift, she was pulled aside by a ward manager and asked to make a statement about what had happened.

After Jennifer relayed that she was still feeling impacted by the racial and potential physical attacks, she was told that despite that she still had to respect “equality and diversity” according to the Nursing and Midwifery Council code of conduct.

Jennifer said she had no issues with people’s sexuality but also asked where the respect was for her Christian beliefs and said that she ‘could not deny biological reality’.

As a Christian, Jennifer believes that the Bible is unambiguous about human sex, as it is written in Genesis 1:27, that:‘So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them, male and female he created them.’

Over the next few days Jennifer said she felt pressured to provide management with a statement.

She was then told that she must attend a meeting with HR and that if she refused to comply, she would be sent home until an investigation was completed.

She was then redeployed to another unit, which she found this to be hurtful and demeaning.

An investigation report subsequently concluded that: ‘the Code of Conduct outlines that in order to treat people as individuals and to uphold their dignity nurses should avoid making assumptions and should recognise Diversity and individual choice.’

The report cited the NMC Code of Conduct which states that nurses should ‘not express your personal beliefs (including political, religious or moral beliefs) in an inappropriate way. Therefore, although [Jennifer] felt unable to identity Patient X using the preferred pronouns due to her religion, as outlined in the NMC Code of Conduct, it could be perceived that [Jennifer’s] actions could…be seen as a potential breach of the code.’

She was accused of ‘not respecting the patient’s preferred identity’ and told her actions and behaviour had ‘fallen short of the Trust’s value of Respect’.

Summoned to a disciplinary hearing in October 2024, Jennifer was given a final written warning and has been referred to the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC).

Since the incident, she has been moved to another ward and effectively demoted. Her name was wiped off the internal system, making it difficult to apply for extra shifts at the hospital.

Her capacity to earn much needed extra money was therefore removed and she and her family have suffered as a result.

Under severe pressure within the system, and with her career and livelihood under investigation and at serious risk, Jennifer faced no alternative but to file a legal claim on the grounds of harassment and direct discrimination.

She says that the NHS has unlawfully interfered with her rights under Article 9 ECHR to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, especially with her right to manifest her religion by seeking to compel her to use preferred pronouns.

Jennifer’s case follows other high profile legal cases involving nurses in Darlington and Scotland taking legal action against the NHS over being forced to undress in female changing rooms in front of men ‘identifying’ as women.

Jennifer, whose story is on the front page of the Mail on Sunday today, says she has never had any issues with any transgender patients previously, said: “I am devastated by how I have been treated and believe I am being institutionally abused, harassed, bullied and racially discriminated against.

“Ever since I have expressed my Christian beliefs under extreme pressure, I have been a marked woman.

“I do not feel supported by my colleagues, or the NHS, following the racial abuse and threat of physical violence I received from the patient. I remained professional throughout and always treat each and every individual with dignity and respect.

“My conduct throughout this incident and during my career has been fully compliant with the code.

“I have been put at risk, but I am being treated like a criminal. Sadly, if you put your head above the parapet and speak truthfully on these issues in the NHS the risk is that you will be knocked down, punished severely and demoted.

“The message to me during the investigation is that I should put up with extreme racism and deny biological reality and my deeply held Christian beliefs, for the sake of ‘inclusivity’ and respecting lies.

“It feels like I am dreaming, but I am trusting in Jesus to look after me. I have to take a stand on this issue and am concerned about how many other NHS workers are suffering in silence during similar experiences.”

Andrea Williams, Chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre which is supporting Jennifer, said: “The NHS appears to remain captured by transgender ideology to the point it is prepared to back a convicted paedophile, who was clearly very disturbed and shouting racist comments, over the Christian nurse.

“Jennifer Melle was genuinely doing her best while not wanting to deny her Christian faith and biological reality.

“We thought we had seen it all when it comes to controversial legal cases on these issues, but what Jennifer Melle is experiencing at the hands of this ideology is off the scale and on a whole new disturbing level.

“Jennifer loves Jesus and is a talented nurse who should be supported and protected, not investigated and silenced.

“The Trust cannot force compelled speech on their staff and an urgent U-turn and apology is needed.

“We would ask Wes Streeting, as health secretary, to investigate what is happening here. He is already involved in the Darlington nurses’ case, and has previously said he is ‘horrified’ by how they are being treated. It’s time for government intervention on this matter.

“It’s time for the government to stop equality and diversity policies being weaponised in the NHS to punish innocent nurses just doing their job.

“We will stand with Jennifer for as long as it takes for her to receive justice and with any other nurses who are discriminated against due to this dangerous ideology.”

If you are concerned by Jennifer's story, please share it and consider supporting Jennifer and her legal team here: https://mailchi.mp/christianlegalcentre.com/stand-with-jennifer-melle

We and Jennifer value all support and prayer as we pursue justice in this matter 🙏

In a phone call to a doctor about removing a catheter from a male patient, of course a nurse needs to be accurate about the sex of the patient. The fact that the nurse is pilloried for this with an aggressive convicted paedophile being allowed to be openly racist and then pandered to, is symptomatic of skewed priorities.

This speaks to evidence of the NHS being infiltrated by some very dodgy people. A number of NHS trusts have policies written to specifically to ensure male born paedophiles / sex offenders are able to access women's wards. Presumably this also applies to the RCN which also has a dubious history in relation to sexual abuse of women (see below)

We need to look at the big picture which is becoming hard to ignore. The reason Ms Melle is being sanctioned & women staff & patients are being compelled to undress and sleep alongside so many men is because a paedophile's demands matter more to the NHS than the rights and safety of women. Which is terrifying.

Press reports of the above because both sound so unbelievable:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9854261/Convicts-born-male-identify-female-placed-women-wards.html

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/oct/10/bullying-misogyny-and-sexual-culture-at-royal-college-of-nursing-inquiry-finds

This is appalling in so many ways but just looking at the legal side I was surprised to see NHS lawyers claiming that her beliefs are not worthy of respect in a democratic society. If they try to argue that in tribunal it's not going to work is it?