Trump re trans issues / Tate brothers

[Mittens67]

I have read many threads both before and after the US election where posters are so pleased that Trump does not support the trans agenda. Some also saying that this was the most important issue which would and did influence their vote in the UK election.
Do you still feel the same now? Trump has shown his contempt for women throughout his life and career. Now he has bullied Romania into lifting the travel ban on the Tates and flown them into Florida ready to abuse more women and radicalise a new generation of misogynists and rapists.
Any buyer’s remorse?

This seems similar to the thread the other day along the lines of ‘why don’t we just pacify Putin and keep the extra defence budget for ourselves’ that got deleted by MNHQ 🙄

I completely agree that sex is immutable and I also agree that all the issues which go hand in hand with the trans ideology are extremely harmful so this is a very important issue but, and it is a big but, there are even bigger issues facing humanity as a whole and also particular to women as a group.
Trump, and to a much lesser extent conservatives and even reform in the uk have the benefit of not supporting the trans agenda but at what price?
As regards being left or right or wing, trump is neither. He is a sub species. He is trump wing. This is not normal politics.
I used the term “buyer’s remorse” to include buying into part of what he is selling not purely those who voted for him.
As somebody else posted, hitler was a vegetarian. I am a vegetarian myself but I don’t see this as a redeeming quality balanced with the horrors. In fact it rather fucks me off.

So what on earth is your point as I can't see it for the life of me in this word salad? Why do you think British women on a UK parenting site must have "buyers remorse"?

Did you just fancy a quick scold? A drive by accusation of smear by association?

Are you saying women on here must never comment about Trump?

Or what?

Not really sure who was so obsessed (inside the administration) with getting those grifters out of Romania, but regardless this does not change my opinion that it is good that men are out of women's sports and there was only one candidate in the election who would do that.

How is agreeing with Trump on one thing, or rather him agreeing with us, given we were there first "buying what he is selling"?

Save your anger for the fucking useless Democrats

A nice little finger wag and telling off to all the women, that'll show them...

Pointless bonker thread.

I suspect you've deliberately misunderstood the Hitler analogy, your agreement with him has as much connection as posters here with trump.

I have read many threads both before and after the US election where posters are so pleased that Trump does not support the trans agenda. Some also saying that this was the most important issue which would and did influence their vote in the UK election.
Do you still feel the same now?

Do I still feel pleased that Trump does not support the Trans agenda?

100% yes!

Come to think of it, I've seen Andrew Tate speaking against giving kids hormones and surgery in this context, but that doesn't mean we have to agree with everything else - at least I hope not!

Not at all. I really admire many of the women who post here. I am genuinely wondering how people feel now.
We all know that Andrew Tate is utter scum who targets women and girls. He is now relaxing in sunny Florida thanks to Trump’s intervention.
I agree that the left let women down enormously by pandering to this nonsense and need to be held accountable.
It shouldn’t be an either or situation where in order to get something so important you have to hold your nose and vote for/ praise trump. Or indeed any right wing party if that is not your natural leaning.
But it was/is.
Is stopping the trans agenda worth any price or at what point do other issues take precedence?
I don’t mean we should stop trying to return society to reality. I just don’t think that is the way to do it.

Apparently Baron Trump is a fan. He's one to watch for the future.

I don’t mean we should stop trying to return society to reality. I just don’t think that is the way to do it.

I doubt anyone here thinks supporting Andrew Tate is "the way to do it" do they?

Good for you.

You really don't like other ways to approach matters do you, women must do like you do.

The anger at women expressing praise and opinions you don't like it.

Bizarre to imply that women support the misogyny of the Tate brothers because we object to the misogyny of the trans movement.
Both Tate and trans ideology treat women as things for male use. I have little time for sexist claptrap, no matter the form it comes in.

Let's turn this around - OP do you have any buyer's remorse for supporting Trump, and buying what he's selling?

Given that you've said that you do support Trump's trans policies.

It seems like you're trying to suggest some distinction between our views and yours, but the only distinction I can see is that we're not creating threads to scold women for having the same bad views we ourselves hold.

Trump, to me, is basically a stopped clock. As Tinsel says, women here and in the UK in general were on this before he came to power the first time.

This is a weird take. Both of these things come from a sexist standpoint and damage women and girls.
We oppose Tate for the same reason we oppose trans ideology. They're both misogynistic.
There are multiple areas where women's rights are under threat: reproductive rights for example, domestic violence, rape rates, MRAs like Tate and yes, also the trans movement.
You'll find few feminists who are willing to sacrifice one area for another.
They're all sides of the same sexist coin. I don't understand why this is so complicated to understand.

@Mittens67
When a politican gets elected you don't have to agree with everything they say and do. There's this modern thought process that EVERYTHING must agree with me. It leads to people having groups with cult like behaviour where the group decides how every member of the group must think on every issue, and expression of any opinion that deviates from the approved line results in savagry from the rest of the group.
It's possible to like what Trump has done on some issues, and not like what he's done on other issues. Overall as he makes more decisions and takes more actions a person's appraisal might on balance move more towards he's doing a good job, or a bad job with each decision/action.
As an example - overall I think Starmer is a wet useless fart, but he's done well to mend fences with Trump during his visit considering how many derogatory things Labour members have said about Trump in the past. Starmer's words in America came off quite statesmanny to me, and I think Starmer stepped up well.

Your original post uses extreme language, very black white with no room for in between, buyer's remorse being a prime example. I wonder how much of the media you read tells you what to think because the media is using that phrase quite a lot at the moment.

It really is quite a bizarre thread.

You still haven’t explained why British women voting in British elections should have ‘buyers remorse’ over Trump and his policies. We didn’t ‘buy’ anything and have absolutely no influence over what happens in the US. You need to be clearer.

And yes, @Mittens67 as @NecessaryScene says, you also agree with Trump that men aren't women, don't you? So are you going to do some self examination as well?

I vehemently hate the Tate brothers due to the risks they, and their movement poses to women.

The trans movement equally poses a risk to women.

If you can't understand that, I don't know wh9 can help you.

I loathe Trump with every fibre of my being, but at least he knows what a woman actually is even if it's because he's a rapist! I worry for the future of women, actual biological women having our rights roughshod over because men want to play woman-face.

I'm pretty sure I was a TERF and/or gender critical long before Donald Trump attached himself to this point of view. Simply because Trump (or even Tate) says something similar it doesn't make the gender critical position unsavoury, surely? Or am I missing something? Should I perhaps become a 'transmaid' just to make sure everyone can see I belong to the nice people?

I still don't know what we have bought that we are being told off for?