NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #8

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3

Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4

Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5

Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6

Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7

Fuck the sensitivities afforded SP last week from JR:

Please Judge tell JR to SHUT UP and STOP INTERRUPTING!

Judge - yes we haven't got to the question !

NC yes let's have another try at the question.

Manifesto incoming from DU

So pete can just say i'm a woman and then he's in?

Du with a very rehearsed statement there

No medical or surgical treatment

Well played NC

DU Medical or surgical treatment does not make a difference.

NC: Let's have another go.

You haven't said about medical/surgical treatment.

You dont' think medical treatment makes difference>

BU_ trans identity not contingent on medical treatment/ much same cis woman with hysterectomy not disallowed from using bathroom

NC -

I want to scream.

Maybe Naomi should cut out the middle man and just question JR ............?

“I think that’s a no” 😂

Hysterectomies being cited now. Get in the f'ing bin.

wow DrU is a fully paid up top notch indoctrinated cult member isn't he?

I couldn't hear but did he just bring up the hysterectomy thing?

Ha yes

God he can't even answer a simple yes or no question without making it into a political speech!

😂

NC - you haven't said whether or not -

Judge - careful with lawyer qus

NC - you haven't said whether you hold a GRC. WE can conclude you don't think that makes the difference

BU - I don't think a GRC is required for GI to be validated, or respected

Doesn't believe GRC needed to be validated and respected

JR's outbursts aren't helping, they've only allowed NC to now say three times instead of once that DU hasn't told the tribunal of any medical or surgical treatment.

He's like a trans AI Bot!

DrU - medical treatment doesn't make a difference (to TW in changing room) in the same way that women who've had hysterectomy wouldn't be thrown out a changing room?

DU Don't believe a GRC is necessary for a trans persons id to be recognised or respected.