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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mumsnet listed as Anti-Trans

882 replies

Hoosemover · 08/02/2025 17:21

there a list of organisations and Mumsnet is on it. Along with the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

x.com/twisterfilm/status/1888255119449268674?s=61

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Helleofabore · 11/02/2025 18:52

ErrolTheDragon · 11/02/2025 18:52

Not all feminists use the terms gender critics use

Afaik none of us use the term 'gender critics'😂

Gender critical feminist.

Not seen it used as a collective description. It is very weird!

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:54

Kucinghitam · 11/02/2025 18:50

Yes, yes I do want you to call people who understand that mammalian sex is determined at conception and is immutable, the Wrong Side of History. I would be utterly grateful for you to shout this loud and clear, everywhere, repeatedly. If you would also add the thing about being Evil Spawn of Demons, it would be even better.

I mean this with all sincerity.

The wrong side of history, as in the people who backed the bad guys? Ok 👍

Kucinghitam · 11/02/2025 18:55

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:54

The wrong side of history, as in the people who backed the bad guys? Ok 👍

Yes, please tell every thread on Mumsnet, and also if you could write this to every newspaper.

Seriously, please do.

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:56

Helleofabore · 11/02/2025 18:52

Operation: Let them speak in action hey Kuc?

🙄

Not this rubbish again.

It's been confirmed by several posters that watching the way that gender critical feminists talk about trans people has turned them away from your ideology.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/02/2025 18:57

Knowing basic biology isn't an ideology.

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:57

Kucinghitam · 11/02/2025 18:55

Yes, please tell every thread on Mumsnet, and also if you could write this to every newspaper.

Seriously, please do.

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

But it it's something you're proud of, you do you.

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:58

Helleofabore · 11/02/2025 18:50

You would think it wouldn’t be hard, but I guess it is if your intention is to be derisory about the group of people you are referring to and use the label as a derogatory term.

Are you trying to be patronising?

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:59

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/02/2025 18:57

Knowing basic biology isn't an ideology.

Gender critical feminism is an ideology.

UrsulasHerbBag · 11/02/2025 19:00

The bad guys? The ones that slice breasts off young distressed girls? Those bad guys… oh wait. That’s you.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/02/2025 19:00

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

She's not.
TRSOH is an acronym some use to describe the type of people who are foolishly convinced they are On The Right Side Of History.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 11/02/2025 19:01

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/02/2025 18:57

Knowing basic biology isn't an ideology.

This

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/02/2025 19:01

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:59

Gender critical feminism is an ideology.

It’s not.

Edited to add - I don’t see it as an ideology as in it’s a group of people who understand and agree with fact. Same as all adults know basic maths. If someone comes along and decides 2+2 now actually equals 5, those who say ‘no it doesn’t’ don’t get ‘termed’ or lumped into an ideology. They just know and agree with, a basic fact.

Kucinghitam · 11/02/2025 19:02

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:57

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

But it it's something you're proud of, you do you.

I'm disappointed by your coyness here. I was rather expecting a full-throated, shouting-from-the-rooftops, announcement on all platforms:

The understanding that mammalian sex is determined at conception and is immutable is an ideology which is on the Wrong Side of History.

I can do it in Bigly letters for you, if you like? Or perhaps we could work out how to decorate the announcement with snowdrops?

ErrolTheDragon · 11/02/2025 19:03

Gender critical feminism is an ideology.

Yes, it is.

Understanding basic biology isn't. That's like understanding gravity.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 11/02/2025 19:03

I can feel your disappointment from here Kucinghitam

Kucinghitam · 11/02/2025 19:05

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 11/02/2025 19:03

I can feel your disappointment from here Kucinghitam

Sadness 😞

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2025 19:11

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

No one is doing that, they are gently making fun. Are you familiar with sarcasm/parody as a form of humour? That might be the source of your confusion.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2025 19:13

Gender critical feminism is an ideology.

I agree. So is belief in gender identity as distinct from your sex. Next.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/02/2025 19:14

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:30

What would you prefer?

You lot? A list of names? The collective group whom use this group of terms?

GC isn't actually necessary. "Feminist" is all that is really needed.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/02/2025 19:15

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:57

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

But it it's something you're proud of, you do you.

Sorry, who exactly are the bad guys you think feminists are backing?

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 19:22

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2025 19:11

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

No one is doing that, they are gently making fun. Are you familiar with sarcasm/parody as a form of humour? That might be the source of your confusion.

I'm family with humour and sarcasm, it's just that the posters here are regularly taking the piss out of trans people and extremely rude to anyone who doesn't agree with them so it's incredibly difficult to make out when people are being genuinely sarcastic or just making fun of people without tone of voice or facial expression to go with it.

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 19:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/02/2025 19:14

GC isn't actually necessary. "Feminist" is all that is really needed.

As already stated, not all feminists are GC so the two terms aren't interchangeable.

AnSolas · 11/02/2025 19:24

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 18:57

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

But it it's something you're proud of, you do you.

You fail to understand the irony in that statement

" One ends on the right side of history because one has sucessfully killed off the Other side "

Caesar
Stalin
Hitler

🙄

Kucinghitam · 11/02/2025 19:24

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2025 19:11

I'm really confused as to why you are proud to be backing the bad guys.

No one is doing that, they are gently making fun. Are you familiar with sarcasm/parody as a form of humour? That might be the source of your confusion.

I am actually, in a manner of speaking, deadly serious.

Putting together all their comments, the poster in question is has repeatedly stated that people who do not share belief in the primacy of gender, and who understand that mammalian sex is determined at conception and is immutable, are terrible people in the grip of an evil ideology and on the Wrong Side of History.

I was just hoping for an executive summary, as it were.

SailorSerena · 11/02/2025 19:24

Kucinghitam · 11/02/2025 19:02

I'm disappointed by your coyness here. I was rather expecting a full-throated, shouting-from-the-rooftops, announcement on all platforms:

The understanding that mammalian sex is determined at conception and is immutable is an ideology which is on the Wrong Side of History.

I can do it in Bigly letters for you, if you like? Or perhaps we could work out how to decorate the announcement with snowdrops?

I'm not remotely disappointed by how rude you are being, it's exactly what I expect here 👍