Imane Khelif not eligible to compete in boxing world championships 2025

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https://boxingnewsonline.net/iba-confirms-stance-on-imane-khelif-ahead-of-womens-boxing-world-championships/

The IBA is sticking with its rules and Khelif failed its 'gender eligibility tests'. The writer of the article shows remarkably little concern with saying what a 'gender eligibility test' involves and that it shows Khelif is male.

But the left are the GOOD PEOPLE Alison. Even if they are doing bad things, they're doing them for the right reasons. 🫠

Do you mean when Zuckerberg complied with requests to take down misinformation during the Covid epidemic?

He now says he regrets doing so, but that's probably because the political wind from Washington has changed direction.
It would have been highly questionable to insist on leaving up potentially fatally wrong misinformation in the middle of a pandemic that was killing millions, and being asked not to disseminate it isn't the same as 'censorship', so I'd take what he says about suppressing 'anything the Biden admin wanted' with a big pinch of salt.
Zuckerberg and the techbros are now saying the opposite of things they used to say, now there's a new Sherriff in town. I don't believe them now, just as I didn't believe them before.

From the laptop to Covid to 'gender critical' words - he took down anything the CIA wanted taking down.

I think the relevance is potentially Australian in this case.

And probably points out the hypocrisy of that poster in its usage.

I appreciate it's just a side issue, but it's an interesting point about whether Putin is communist or not.

The most extreme left and most extreme right leaders share many traits, including an authoritarianism (and everything that goes with that) that makes it as moot as it is interesting. I'm sure she wasn't the first person to explain it this way, but I really liked Sarah Phillimore's description of the left and right of politics. She described it as horseshoe- shaped, with the majority of us centring around the bulge at the bottom: a little bit left, centrist and a little bit right.... with many being fiscally one way and socially the other. At the top, the two ends are closer to each other than they are to the majority in the bulge.

@puffyisgood @Helleofabore @NotBadConsidering

Thank you for the extra info re DHT and facial hair.

I ended up googling it because I wasn't sure if men/boys with 5-ARD had no DHT or low DHT. I appreciate googling for facts is often a fool's errand on this subject of much obfuscation, but the results seemed to make sense: low. I then googled to see if other men can have low DHT and the (sensible-sounding) answer was yes.

Equally, I found something to correct some accidental misinformation from me. Every day is a school day and I'm happy to keep learning. It transpires that (and again, it seems to make sense) men/boys with 5-ARD may not have a prostate. Some do but if so it is likely to be smaller than usual. So yes, they may be missing a body part. But the rest are all there, it's just that the penis doesn't finish forming in the womb but at puberty instead (and because of the way the development stages work, the scrotum looks like labia until then). Sorry Puffy!

(Although.... maybe I should retract that apology and just blame Russia for my mistake?)

It is certainly true that it is a short hop (if that) from left-wing authoritarianism to right-wing authoritarianism.

If you are dragged from your home and sent to a camp, does it really matter if it is a concentration camp or a Gulag?

Yes @Philosophies putin is a communist. He spoke out against Gorbachev and glasnost (sp) and as a former kgb agent he was known to be particularly brutal towards capitalists. He hasn't changed and has slowly been recreating the communist dictatorship in Russia. I could explain further but you won't listen as it doesn't fit your narrative and would just succeed in further derailing this thread.
It is however becoming very clear that you like to throw derogatory terms and statements around when you clearly haven't got a clue about geopolitics nor have you been paying attention to the long game putin has been playing, please don't assume that is true for all of us on this board

Is this where we talk about horseshoe theory in politics?

A mere four posts up...

good

That was me.

I'm intrigued.... Is there an alternative viewpoint that I'm missing? It certainly seems to make sense but then I've been learning a ton about geopolitics from MN over the last few months and am happy to expand that. Obviously not to the point of derailing the OP's thread though!!

ITV interview with Imane Khelif

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-18/imane-khelif-online-hate-has-made-me-twice-the-woman-i-was

"As World Athletics president he is exploring plans for compulsory gender testing for all elite female athletes in track and field.
If he lands the presidency, who is to say he won’t encourage that across all Olympic sports?
So would Khelif support universal swab testing?
She admitted to not knowing Coe’s specific views, but did say she trusted the IOC to do the right thing.
"I have no idea about that topic. The IOC has a team of experts and specialists handling such matters. I don’t have any information on this, nor is it my place to comment on it," she said.
"For me, I see myself as a girl, just like any other girl. I was born a girl, raised as a girl, and have lived my entire life as one."

oh doh! Bonfire, I had missed your post! Apologies.

Ha! No probs. I was just concerned that I might have swallowed up some political theory that was built on nonsense. If I had, I was very happy to get my grey matter working again.

One thing I've found in this whole journey of discovery regarding gender identity is that I have become so much more aware of so many different subjects, including discovering that I actually find politics interesting.

I had to turn that off when the presenter said ‘unfounded allegations’ 😳

"I have no idea about that topic. The IOC has a team of experts and specialists handling such matters. I don’t have any information on this, nor is it my place to comment on it," she said.

Erm.

It's very much your place to comment on it. Let's start with a comment on why you personally won't share your existing results from the sex-verification testing.

Reading that reminded me of the Harry Enfield sketch, once the woman behaved as she was supposed to have done... "I don't know anything about the gold standard I'm afraid, but I do love fluffy kittens":

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Said it real life by Khelif, it feels more like trolling than parody. It's certainly nonsensical, whichever it is.

I remember being fascinated by the horseshoe theory when I came across it. It is interesting and seems relevant at the moment.

2024 Olympics, the year a male was awarded a medal for punching a female! Let this be THE last time this shit show is allowed to happen! 😡

No, he really isn’t, as Russia really isn’t a Communist country. Western countries think it is, but it isn’t. It is authoritarian. It transitioned from communism to ‘demo-capitalism’ some time ago. Why do you think it has oligarchs?

Putin apparently does wish to recreate the USSR, but not as Communist states.

What is your point here? What hypocrisy?

You're suggesting Communist countries aren't authoritarian? Crikey...

I don't see any suggestion of that at all.

Putin is a Russian nationalist and it is important to remember the USSR was under the facade of cosmopolitanism a Russiancentric state still ruling a multiethnic Empire created by the Tsars. It just replaced Marxist doctrine for the Orthodox Church which was marginalised.

Putin clearly doesn't believe in Marx or Lenin anymore. He is not claiming to be an atheist. Look at his public discourse where religious discourse has returned. However he sees himself as continuing the Russian tradition he is the embodiment of Russia just as the Tsars and Stalin was under the surface. He doesn't believe in any form of universalism or utopianism which communists do. He doesn't believe in free markets either or aristocracy. He just believes in an authoritarian state riddled with corruption and theft which he is the head person in it though God supports all this and a series of oligarchs are empowered to run things under him. This being a Russian state it is all fine. Russians are meant to obey.

It is closest to other autocratic one person states with nationalist elements. So parallels to Franco, Saddam in Iraq etc.

‘Authoritarian’ doesn’t just apply to communism. The below is worth a read for a general overview.

https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/ukraine/bibbins-sedaca-russia-attack-on-ukraine-part-of-wave-of-authoritarianism