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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #3

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nauticant · 05/02/2025 12:27

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

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chilling19 · 05/02/2025 14:42

Maya slowly getting her points across so the judge can get it all down 👏👏

BettyBooper · 05/02/2025 14:42

What on earth has this got to do with Dr U in the Bathroom with the Candlestick?

nauticant · 05/02/2025 14:43

I know I'm biased but I think her whole cross-examination of Maya Forstater has not gone well at all.

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Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 14:43

JR back on to using Mayas agriculture degree against her

Mollyollydolly · 05/02/2025 14:43

I know she's only doing her job, but bloodyhell, this is low and desperate.

WearyAuldWumman · 05/02/2025 14:43

WhoPutTheBomp · 05/02/2025 14:42

Years ago I read a description of someone who dished it out but couldn't take it. They has the hide of an elephant and yet were simultaneously a wilting flower. The author called this person an Eleflower.

As you were

Eleflower? I like it.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 05/02/2025 14:44

JR is like Wile E Coyote.

Teeing up things that blow up in her face.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/02/2025 14:44

ickky · 05/02/2025 14:42

I think JR is trying to paint Sex Matters as a hate organisation.

Yes.

chilling19 · 05/02/2025 14:44

JR is opening the door for Maya to drive a coach and horses through any point she is [poorly] trying to make

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 14:44

JR blah blah blah
Maya no I don't agree with the premise.

Sums up the whole thing today.

WearyAuldWumman · 05/02/2025 14:45

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 14:43

JR back on to using Mayas agriculture degree against her

If you have an agricultural degree, you know the difference between a tup and a ewe.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/02/2025 14:45

I think she made that point earlier.

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 14:46

When the judge looks back JRs questions won't be in full in his notes. Mayas wonderful answers will be there word for sodding word.

PepeParapluie · 05/02/2025 14:47

Thanks for the updates all. Sounds like cross examining MF may have been a mistake. I’m not really sure why they decided to do it at all, but sounds like it’s good sunlight so I’m not mad about it!
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Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 14:47

My god JR is painful

BettyBooper · 05/02/2025 14:48

MF - ... recognised by the government.
JR *swiftly moving on....

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 14:49

JR back to slurring sex matters as an organisation

ILikeDungs · 05/02/2025 14:50

Oh wow this is not well played by JR, everything seems to fall flat.

Or is that just my interpretation because I am biased?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/02/2025 14:50

I loved the clarity of Maya's answers there.

BettyBooper · 05/02/2025 14:50

JR - TW are not in the same category as women
MF correct

Mayaisashero · 05/02/2025 14:50

Well they wouldn't be TRANS if they're in the same category? What would they be transing from? WTAF is she going on about.

ILikeDungs · 05/02/2025 14:51

MF "I can't disagree that some people think anything" :)

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 05/02/2025 14:51

'Esteemed barrister'

RMW...

😂😂😂😂

chilling19 · 05/02/2025 14:51

RMW 😬

PoshCoffee · 05/02/2025 14:51

Hahahaha. SR bring up Robin Moira White and MF calling him a man. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

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