I think males should be banned from female sport and anyone should be allowed to enter the male / open category. The US President has just signed an executive order saying this.

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Females need their own sports for reasons of fairness, competitiveness and safety. I am glad that orders like this make it easier to talk about these issues without being called a biggot.

Everyone deserves fair opportunities, women and girls are under represented in sport, this can only help that get a little better.

Transgender sports people also clearly deserve opportunities to participate in sport and so trans women and men should be allowed to enter male / open categories or have their own categories if needed.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-transgender-athletes-3606411fc12efffec95a893351624e1b

You don't have to be here...

Fair point, well made.

So-called "trans women" are males.

This feels like a pretty duff outcome (albeit perhaps not as duff as men playing in women's sports). If a man were to say he wasn't comfortable competing against a woman in e.g. rugby I'd think that was pretty fair.

Trans women are trans women. They are not women.

You can’t change an XX to a XY or reverse.

Its about time biological men where stopped from stamping all over women’s sports and spaces frankly.

Nobody is going to change their minds

I actually disagree with this @EmmaMaria

I think many people say twaw because they haven't actually thought about it as it doesn't impact them and the marketing has filtered through that it's the 'nice' thing to say. Once anyone sane thinks about it, and it's impact, they will change their mind.

No Executive Order that I can find on abortion rights.

Which are dealt with at state level, a situation which persisted throughout Democratic presidencies and which the Democrats made no attempt to alter.

Incidentally, at the same time as the Presidential election (and others) there were ballots on abortion rights in 10 states - and the measures passed in 7 of them.

Including Arizona, Missouri, Nevada and Montana, which Trump won.

They so aren't @littledotheyknow
Any biology book will explain it to you in easy to understand pictures.
Your username is quite ironic.

This is agonising. Why on earth are the left leaving reality and common sense to be 'wins' for Trump and the right? They seem determined to throw the votes of the vast majority away.

The females are classed as doping by taking performancing enhansing drugs as they chase the "male" hormones levels of testosterone.

The "open" category is the only one that should exist. Everyone should compete together. Sport is a meritocracy, people should be grouped on ability. There are plenty of female athletes who are better than some men who play the same sport.

In thirty years people are going to look back not his moment re: males competing in women’s sport, and be baffled by how it happened!

Terrible idea, women wouldn’t even qualify for most
elite events if there was only one ‘open’ category.

Not much good for women wanting to compete.

Are you volunteering to go up against a male heavyweight? What would a mixed sex rugby tackle look like for the woman?

Alas not on Mumsnet. The transphobia is strong in here.

Nor in reality, but you know that

Why does it bother you what a trans person is doing? You're not protecting women, you're attacking trans people.

Is that true though? This feels more like "well I hate trump but he's got it right this time"

What, like when 203rd-ranked German Karsten Braasch beat Serena Williams and Venus Williams back-to-back at the 1998 Australian Open.

After the sisters said that they could beat any man outside the top 200. Even they recognised that 200 men could beat them, and as it turned out probably more could have done.

How would even the Williams sisters have ever won an open competition?

I apologise for talking about the safety and dignity of women and girls on Mumsnet.

Absolutely fucking stupid idea.

I think you can recognize yourself as you like I don't care but trans women are not biological women sorry but cutting your bits off does not make you female if you want me to call you mandy instead of mark I will respect that but nothing changes biological fact .

Hiya, perhaps you can tell me how transwomen are women, what with being born male, please? I honestly don't understand and no one will explain how it works, can you help?

Well I can't think of a single one? Please name them.

Olympic level female athletes wouldn't meet the criteria to compete even on just the England School Boys teams.

It's reasons like this that mean Reform is leading in the polls, until Labour have a sensible immigration policy and say women are adult human females, idiots like Trump and Reform lead the way.