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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I think males should be banned from female sport and anyone should be allowed to enter the male / open category. The US President has just signed an executive order saying this.

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SernieBanders · 05/02/2025 12:13

Females need their own sports for reasons of fairness, competitiveness and safety. I am glad that orders like this make it easier to talk about these issues without being called a biggot.

Everyone deserves fair opportunities, women and girls are under represented in sport, this can only help that get a little better.

Transgender sports people also clearly deserve opportunities to participate in sport and so trans women and men should be allowed to enter male / open categories or have their own categories if needed.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-transgender-athletes-3606411fc12efffec95a893351624e1b

President Donald Trump speaks during a news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the East Room of the White House, Tuesday, Feb. 4, 2025, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

Trump to sign executive order barring transgender female athletes from competing

President Donald Trump is signing an executive order designed to prevent people who were biologically assigned male at birth from participating in women’s or girls' sporting events.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-transgender-athletes-3606411fc12efffec95a893351624e1b

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Lovelysummerdays · 05/02/2025 12:19

Not a fan of Trump but woman and girls should be able to compete without having to pander to a mediocre bloke who can’t beat other men deciding to compete against women.

SernieBanders · 05/02/2025 12:21

Lovelysummerdays · 05/02/2025 12:19

Not a fan of Trump but woman and girls should be able to compete without having to pander to a mediocre bloke who can’t beat other men deciding to compete against women.

I didn't even want mention his name, it's what he's signing today that matters I suppose! and stopped clock, etc.

Females deserve a level playing field. They don't get it when men come in.

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TealSapphire · 05/02/2025 12:21

YANBU at all. It's a fact of life that we don't always get what we want, and I don't know how these (mostly grifting) men have not only pushed women aside but been supported to do so.

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 12:23

He has got this one right.

And I believe it made a huge difference to his popularity.

WomenInConstruction · 05/02/2025 12:25

I agree but I wish this issue could be less partisan because I think a fair playing field and not causing one disadvantaged group to be supported at the expense of another is not a right wing thing but is a cross party thing and this association won't help people see that it's not about transphobia.

Tohaveandtohold · 05/02/2025 12:26

This is one of the things that made him popular during the election as people were tired of women sports being dominated by some men who can’t compete with their peers. I support this and trans people should have their own category as well, not try to push themselves into women sports.

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 12:27

Trump couldn't give a single shiny shit about transgender folks.

He's just jumping on a bandwagon and keeping his backers happy.

Bellaire85 · 05/02/2025 12:28

I support this completely. There does not need to be another category created for trans.

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

Clarabell77 · 05/02/2025 12:29

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 12:27

Trump couldn't give a single shiny shit about transgender folks.

He's just jumping on a bandwagon and keeping his backers happy.

He doesn’t give a shit about women either.

SernieBanders · 05/02/2025 12:29

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 12:27

Trump couldn't give a single shiny shit about transgender folks.

He's just jumping on a bandwagon and keeping his backers happy.

I’m ok with that on this subject to be honest.

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SernieBanders · 05/02/2025 12:30

WomenInConstruction · 05/02/2025 12:25

I agree but I wish this issue could be less partisan because I think a fair playing field and not causing one disadvantaged group to be supported at the expense of another is not a right wing thing but is a cross party thing and this association won't help people see that it's not about transphobia.

Absolutely. When did science and fairness become a political issue? Let alone a right wing leading policy - that weirdly the left don’t support?

it’s mad all over

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Circumferences · 05/02/2025 12:31

How are men claiming to be women "disadvantaged"?

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 12:33

Trump couldn't give a single shiny shit about transgender folks.

They caused this themselves. As a biological male, expecting to compete against biological females, regardless of whether you have gender dysphoria or not, you have XY chromosomes and male strength - it is narcissistic, self absorbed, selfish and frankly batshit to have ever thought your right to play where you want trumps every female.
They, and only they, have caused the 'hate'.

You can't just do whatever you want in life regardless of it's impact on others.

Decent TW, of which there are plenty, wouldn't dream of competing against biological women.

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 12:34

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

Tell me you've never played sport in your life without telling me.

Ablondiebutagoody · 05/02/2025 12:34

WomenInConstruction · 05/02/2025 12:25

I agree but I wish this issue could be less partisan because I think a fair playing field and not causing one disadvantaged group to be supported at the expense of another is not a right wing thing but is a cross party thing and this association won't help people see that it's not about transphobia.

But left wing people don't agree with you. They think that you can be whatever sex you claim to be, and as Kier Starmer claimed, that women can have penises etc etc

The right are your only hope here.

caringcarer · 05/02/2025 12:36

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

They are men. They shouldn't be allowed to encroach on biological female spaces or races. Trump has got this one right.

TheBlackSheepbaaaa · 05/02/2025 12:39

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

No. No they're not.

RaininSummer · 05/02/2025 12:41

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

Don't be silly.

Circumferences · 05/02/2025 12:41

Who actually says TWAW anymore with a straight face😂

NoSoupForU · 05/02/2025 12:42

I'm absolutely in favour of womens sport being reserved for biological women, because of the difference in male and female physique, stamina etc.

But male sports should also be reserved for biological males as I'll never support double standards.

Either there needs to be an open category, or trans people have to accept that they can't participate in gendered sports competitions.

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 12:43

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

Why have you put the 'trans' bit in then? You could have just put women. Women are women. Could you tell us what you've put the trans bit in for - what does it mean?

WhoPutTheBomp · 05/02/2025 12:45

littledotheyknow · 05/02/2025 12:28

Trans women are women

Hi there, could you tell me how this happens, please? We know that transwomen are born male, so how do they become women?

I'm not being arsey, it's just that no one can ever explain this, other than to say it is because they say they are women therefore they are.

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2025 12:45

Circumferences · 05/02/2025 12:41

Who actually says TWAW anymore with a straight face😂

This is actually a really good point. I hadn't realised it. A few years ago, someone would get cancelled/insulted etc for daring to say men are men. Now the person who said TWAW (outside of young students) would be laughed at. Thank goodness. About time.