Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

French Gynaecologist Suspended for refusing to treat a TW

324 replies

TwistedWonder · 30/01/2025 16:03

https://reduxx.info/france-gynecologist-suspended-from-practice-after-lgbt-organization-files-transphobia-complaint/

Despite telling the TW it wasn’t his area of expertise and offering to refer him he’s deemed transphobic apparently.

FFS make this BS stop

FRANCE: Gynecologist Suspended From Practice After LGBT Organization Files "Transphobia" Complaint - Reduxx

A French gynecologist has been sanctioned by medical authorities after a trans activist group reported him to the Minister of Equality for comments which they deemed to be “transphobic.” Dr. Victor Acharian, who operates in the Pau region, has been pro...

https://reduxx.info/france-gynecologist-suspended-from-practice-after-lgbt-organization-files-transphobia-complaint

OP posts:
Thread gallery
7
ArabellaScott · 31/01/2025 10:03

Wemaybebetterstrangers · 31/01/2025 09:37

“Just because it’s a cavity doesn’t mean it’s a classic vagina.”

😂

Unlike my Corinthian vagina.

Shetlands · 31/01/2025 10:08

So the TW wants a gynaecologist to call him Madame, examine his naked groin and stick his fingers up his pretend floof just so that he can indulge his fetish!

NO!!! I'm sure the TW can pay for such a service to be performed by a role-playing sex worker without wasting the valuable time of a highly qualified gynaecologist.

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:08

People more used to transactivism might well write something completely non-complying, but excruciatingly polite. I'm thinking of women like Baroness Nicholson.

And as a tactic it can be very effective. You maintain the moral high ground while the TRA ups the ante to the point of incrimination.

But you have to understand what's going on, in order to do that. A normal gynaecologist in France probably doesn't. I bet he had absolutely no idea that emphasising this person's sex would be deemed unprofessional!

A bloody gynaecologist!

And now, if he's got to read that people are campaigning that he needs to pretend a penis comes under the remit of gynaecology, his head will be exploding.

Instant terf of course, but the people suffering are still women. He's got to cancel all his appointments for the next five fucking months.

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:08

AutoCorrect made that badass Nicholson 😁

Pinkcornfield · 31/01/2025 10:10

HipMax · 31/01/2025 08:00

If it was genuinely about what he said, he wouldn't have been told that he has to treat TW (men) I'm future, or fave further sanction.

This is a very good point.

The gynaecologist’s reply was rude.
Whatever people’s opinions on whether the provocation he had endured meant that this was justified, whatever people’s opinions on his being sanctioned, the fact remains he is now expected to treat TW in future…without being at all qualified to do so. Surely this is a nonsense and breaks medical guidelines? I truly don’t understand how he can be ordered to treat conditions he is not qualified to treat.

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:17

Pinkcornfield · 31/01/2025 10:10

This is a very good point.

The gynaecologist’s reply was rude.
Whatever people’s opinions on whether the provocation he had endured meant that this was justified, whatever people’s opinions on his being sanctioned, the fact remains he is now expected to treat TW in future…without being at all qualified to do so. Surely this is a nonsense and breaks medical guidelines? I truly don’t understand how he can be ordered to treat conditions he is not qualified to treat.

When the Canadian Jonathan Yanniv sued beauticians for not waxing his balls, the law meant that although the result was in their favour, it was because the women weren't qualified, not because he had deliberately targeted them.

He targeted ethnic women, who work from home, who would be alone in their house expected to touch his penis and testicles.

The services were women only, but the judge couldn't rule on that basis, he could only rule on the basis that they weren't qualified to wax male genitals.

It's the bloody elephant in the room. And it needs addressing.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 31/01/2025 10:21

Can we talk about the chilling effect this is going to have on all French gynaecologists and the harm this will do to women in France?

  1. If I was choosing my specialism right now at French med school and read about this, I'd be swerving gynaecology.
  2. If I was approaching retirement age, I'd be sorely tempted to say "merde" to this and retire early.
Result: fewer gyns per 1000 French women, longer waits, women going undiagnosed and untreated, women dying.
MarieDeGournay · 31/01/2025 10:21

SharpOpalNewt · 31/01/2025 05:02

I think any patient or prospective patient should be dealt with professionally. The gynaecologist has been unprofessional to make highly personal remarks on a publicly available site - whoever they are dealing with. I would also worry about how he responded to any woman making a complaint about the treatment she had received.

Edited

The gynaecologist was not unprofessional with the prospective patient, he stated that he did not have the expertise to treat the patient, and offered to refer the patient to the appropriate services. He used female pronouns.
So where's the unprofessionalism in that?

The patient became loud and abusive.
The patient's partner later posted a comment that was critical of the doctor's behaviour to the patient in person, despite there being no evidence that the doctor was anything but professional towards the patient.

If the patient's name was revealed on a publicly available site, it must have been revealed by the patient's partner, because the doctor's post does not name the patient, and his comments are not 'highly personal'. He has apologised for the emotional tone of his reply - which I don't think he needed to do - but his apologies have been ignored.

It really does look like a set-up, as BunfightBetty says; the patient must have known that a gynaecology was not the appropriate specialism for them, unless they are very very ignorant of human physiology, including their own.

I would also worry about how he responded to any woman making a complaint about the treatment she had received.
Dr. Acharian is a gynaecologist. Obviously, a woman patient is never going to place him in the same position, a woman couldn't make such a nonsensical complaint because it's logical for a woman to see a gynaecologist.

It's pointless to speculate on how he would respond to a complaint from a woman because it would be entirely different.

DialSquare · 31/01/2025 10:29

Result: fewer gyns per 1000 French women, longer waits, women going undiagnosed and untreated, women dying.

Exactly this. TA's are quick to accuse others behaviour of causing harm and death to Trans people but don't give a shit about the potential results of their own actions.

bigkidatheart · 31/01/2025 10:36

Jesus, it gets worse

A gynecologist is a medical doctor who specializes in the health of the female reproductive system. They diagnose and treat conditions that affect the uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, and other organs

This dude may have been given a plastic vagina but I am sure he has none of the above

Kucinghitam · 31/01/2025 10:48

Well, I suppose we must understand that punishing his inflammatory use of ungentle language causing sadness to The Righteous is far more important than endangering female human lives.

SeethingHarpie · 31/01/2025 10:48

I thought it was 5 months suspension, then 1 month where he had to treat any TW that attended without transphobia?

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:50

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:08

People more used to transactivism might well write something completely non-complying, but excruciatingly polite. I'm thinking of women like Baroness Nicholson.

And as a tactic it can be very effective. You maintain the moral high ground while the TRA ups the ante to the point of incrimination.

But you have to understand what's going on, in order to do that. A normal gynaecologist in France probably doesn't. I bet he had absolutely no idea that emphasising this person's sex would be deemed unprofessional!

A bloody gynaecologist!

And now, if he's got to read that people are campaigning that he needs to pretend a penis comes under the remit of gynaecology, his head will be exploding.

Instant terf of course, but the people suffering are still women. He's got to cancel all his appointments for the next five fucking months.

Five weeks not five months!

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:50

SeethingHarpie · 31/01/2025 10:48

I thought it was 5 months suspension, then 1 month where he had to treat any TW that attended without transphobia?

Oh, now I'm not sure

justmadabouttheboy · 31/01/2025 10:51

As is said upthread, how sad that we have become so inured to this behaviour that we are discussing whether or not the doctor's phrasing was offensive...rather than applauding his frustration at having his time and expertise wasted.

Maybe next time this happens, he should just wave a large speculum and ask where the patient would like it inserted...

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:51

Dr. Victor Acharian, who operates in the Pau region, has been prohibited from practicing medicine for five months, with an additional one-month probationary period.

Five months

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 31/01/2025 10:52

Datun · 31/01/2025 10:51

Dr. Victor Acharian, who operates in the Pau region, has been prohibited from practicing medicine for five months, with an additional one-month probationary period.

Five months

Check the accuracy of that translation.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 31/01/2025 11:06

Il va devoir fermer les portes de son cabinet tout le mois de mars.

"He must close the doors of his <unknown-to-me noun that probably means clinic> all month of March."

une suspension de six mois, dont cinq avec sursis

"a suspension <in the sense of suspended from work> of six months, with five suspended <in the sense of suspended sentence>"

"Sursis" means "reprieve" and is used to mean suspended prison sentence.

Pinkcornfield · 31/01/2025 11:18

Datun · 31/01/2025 11:10

"Gynecologist accused of transphobia for refusing to see trans woman temporarily suspended
The gynecologist was given a six-month ban from practicing, one of which was firm, by the regional council of the Order of Physicians of Nouvelle-Aquitaine."

Google translate.

https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/le-gynecologue-accuse-de-transphobie-pour-avoir-refuse-une-femme-trans-en-consultation-suspendu-temporairement-29-01-2025-4LGP4WOBZBHZXGQXY3DNYWHJI4.php

I suppose ‘one of which was firm’ means one wasn’t suspended.

Bloom15 · 31/01/2025 11:18

WTAF - should I book my next smear test with a urologist?! And kick off and complain if they won't attend to me? The world has gone mad

OldCrone · 31/01/2025 11:21

Il va devoir fermer les portes de son cabinet tout le mois de mars.

He has to close his office for the whole of March.

le spécialiste écope d’une suspension de six mois, dont cinq avec sursis.

I think this means that he's been given a 6-month period of suspension (banned from practising), of which 5 months are suspended (as in suspended sentence).

TwistedWonder · 31/01/2025 11:24

Bloom15 · 31/01/2025 11:18

WTAF - should I book my next smear test with a urologist?! And kick off and complain if they won't attend to me? The world has gone mad

I’ve got my smear on Monday - maybe I’ll see if the podiatrist can fit me in

OP posts:
MxFlibble · 31/01/2025 11:41

ArabellaScott · 31/01/2025 10:03

Unlike my Corinthian vagina.

Bit early in the day to be discussing columns and vaginas isn't it?

Swipe left for the next trending thread