Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth

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Purpose.

Ideologues who deny the biological reality of sex have increasingly used legal and other socially coercive means to permit men to self-identify as women and gain access to intimate single-sex spaces and activities designed for women, from women’s domestic abuse shelters to women’s workplace showers. This is wrong. Efforts to eradicate the biological reality of sex fundamentally attack women by depriving them of their dignity, safety, and well-being. The erasure of sex in language and policy has a corrosive impact not just on women but on the validity of the entire American system. Basing Federal policy on truth is critical to scientific inquiry, public safety, morale, and trust in government itself.

This unhealthy road is paved by an ongoing and purposeful attack against the ordinary and longstanding use and understanding of biological and scientific terms, replacing the immutable biological reality of sex with an internal, fluid, and subjective sense of self unmoored from biological facts. Invalidating the true and biological category of “woman” improperly transforms laws and policies designed to protect sex-based opportunities into laws and policies that undermine them, replacing longstanding, cherished legal rights and values with an identity-based, inchoate social concept.

This will defend women’s rights and protect freedom of conscience by using clear and accurate language and policies that recognize women are biologically female, and men are biologically male.

Policy and Definitions.

The policy is to recognize two sexes, male and female. These sexes are not changeable and are grounded in fundamental and incontrovertible reality:

(a) “Sex” shall refer to an individual’s immutable biological classification as either male or female. “Sex” is not a synonym for and does not include the concept of “gender identity.”

(b) “Women” or “woman” and “girls” or “girl” shall mean adult and juvenile human females, respectively.

(c) “Men” or “man” and “boys” or “boy” shall mean adult and juvenile human males, respectively.

(d) “Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.

(e) “Male” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell.

(f) “Gender ideology” replaces the biological category of sex with an ever-shifting concept of self-assessed gender identity, permitting the false claim that males can identify as and thus become women and vice versa, and requiring all institutions of society to regard this false claim as true. Gender ideology includes the idea that there is a vast spectrum of genders that are disconnected from one’s sex. Gender ideology is internally inconsistent, in that it diminishes sex as an identifiable or useful category but nevertheless maintains that it is possible for a person to be born in the wrong sexed body.

(g) “Gender identity” reflects a fully internal and subjective sense of self, disconnected from biological reality and sex and existing on an infinite continuum, that does not provide a meaningful basis for identification and cannot be recognized as a replacement for sex.

Recognizing Women Are Biologically Distinct From Men.

Full statement text at https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

Every news outlet is reporting this as anti trans legisliaton.

Not one has reported it is about women's rights.

That's why I started this thread, although there are others as hoping the search engines will pick it up.

Seems that women's rights are so unimportant to anyone, that even when there is a political statement about them, the media reports it is about something else.

Again, it's fuck all to do with "modesty".

As you admitted yourself, you have very little knowledge of this or its history. Perhaps listen to people the people who have that knowledge as they know more than you do.

I strongly suggest you stop with the projection, LostCat. You've been doing it for two days now. It seems to be a tactic. Very strange. Integrity would probably serve your better.

Other people did not seem to find my contributions "incoherent".,

Yours on the other hand... notably full of holes zero logic and misinformation.

You don't like it when people show you up do you?

I'd suggest you stop embarrassing yourself, but unfortunately you don't appear capable of stopping. You're providing plenty of evidence that supports our position though so, you know. Excellent work. Carry on, do.

So what was your answer, women should stay on a urinary leash rather than interact as full humans in public?

it’s a bit like arguing that the niqab is a feminist project as it allows women to go out in public isn’t it?

The social contract made it perfectly clear that men were not supposed to use women's facilities. Those who did were breaking that contract, but presumably got away with it by being discreet.

Nowadays men are encouraged to believe it is their right to use the ladies if they choose and women are told they have to respect this.

And there is no need to "pass". Being trans is an identity in its own right. And as it is an inner feeling, clothes are irrelevant. So any man can walk in without making any attempt to pass.

And then the numbers are so much bigger now.

Plus the use of social media for these men to egg each other on.

Stonewall deciding to suport trans people in 2015, using their position to advocate for trans people tobuse whatever facilities they like.

The Equality Act and the GR .

So a completely different situation from 20 years ago.

Anyway, this utter garbage shows exactly why TRUMP won and why he asked a woman with some idea of what was going on to write it all down and made it one of the first orders of his second term as President.

It is this wangdangling hibbiddidy boddody tralalala gobeshitey nonsense that made me glad that for once, the USA has made it ok to state that men aren't women though.

And there is no need to "pass". Being trans is an identity in its own right

no idea what this is supposed to mean.

let me get this right - . So now the people who vehemently oppose trumps policies are responsible for his election, rather than people who actually support his policies? 🧐🤔🤭

Welcome to the topsy turvy world of the ironically self-proclaimed “gender critical” movement

Yes it's been widely discussed that the democrats poor election performance was because of a number of factors one being they supported and promoted gender ideology.

You continue to ignore is the differences in sexed bodies.

If a woman lifted her skirt to urinate the chances are she would have been sexually assaulted.

Women need single sex spaces to protect our needs based on the differences in our sexed bodies and assumptions based on our reproductive facilities.

What is a sexist construct is to suggest that there is no difference and that any person with a male anatomy has any right to impose themselves on spaces reserved for people with female sexed bodies.

Trump won because Joe public doesn't trust someone who says males can be women and take achievements away from your daughters (and get changed in front of them)

I've had some interesting input from my DH recently. He says that many men are very focussed on rules and fairness. They think that it is unfair that 'men who say they are trans' get rights that other men don't have. I asked him if he would want the 'right' to enter a female toilet and he says that is not the point. The point is the unfairness of having different rules for trans-identified men. I wonder if that is why the sports angle resonates so much with men? It's definitely an insight I am going to use when talking with male MPs etc

No it hasn't, but I think the context around it has changed massively in many ways.

When trans women were few and far between and would be dressed in a feminine way because of the requirement to "live as a woman" in order to get surgery, even women who weren't very happy about their presence were likely to feel it wasn't worth making a fuss for the odd occasion they encountered one.

Now trans women are a much larger and more varied social group, and there's no infallible "dress code" to distinguish them from men. They might even have a beard.

Women are also becoming aware that surgery etc is purely optional. This awareness affects the level of acceptance of transwomen in women's spaces - see the YouGov surveys and the way the percentages alter when people were told this.

We've gone from the basic assumption that a male in the Ladies' or a changing room shouldn't be there and can be challenged and ejected just for being there, to an assumption that if he is there he is probably trans and you shouldn't say anything until he actually does something (by which time it's too late). Then you have to prove he's done it - and we all know how that tends to play out when it's a woman's word against a man's, with no witnesses. Some places have even put up notices telling women and girls that it's transphobic to leave the space if a trans woman comes in. This all undermines women's right and ability to protect themselves in women's spaces, and gives men an excuse to go in if they want one.

Activism for trans rights has shown a very ugly face to the world, with masked demonstrators intimidating women and obscene sexualised threats and insults online. (This was an eye-opener for me when I found out about it, as I've never done Twitter or any of those things.) This, and a steady trickle of sex offenders, plus online revelations by trans women themselves of various grubby sexual motivations, have rather blighted the image of a small harmless minority who "just want to live their lives". One can debate how much of all this is "genuine trans women" and how much is male chauvinist pigs who've spotted a bandwagon to hop on, but since we can't distinguish them for practical purposes in any situation which effectively operates on self-id, it doesn't much matter which they are.

So all in all, the landscape has changed and a lot of women are much warier than they were. I'm sorry for the quiet, non-confrontational trans people (friends of mine among them) because I don't think any of this has done them any favours.

If a woman lifted her skirt to urinate the chances are she would have been sexually assaulted

😱. Oh my.

Do you think that’s what causes women to be sexually assaulted ? lifting their skirts? What about wearing short skirts? Skimpy clothes?

It is about much more than modesty. Men are a genuine threat to women. I have two adopted adult daughters who are hypervigilant in public due to things that happened to them as young children. They need scaffolding to navigate the world - they panic easily and run. They are entitled to have their needs met too. And their needs are for feeling safe - I have been at the sink area in a ladies with a trans woman and felt completely at a disadvantage due to their size and tendency to dominate the area. I can be furious about the boundary breach but cope - my girls can't cope. Their brains are hard wired for danger and it is not OK to suggest they just learn to cross their fingers and hope for the best.

You do know that "gender critical" doesn't mean what Wikipedia claims it means don't you?

hollylawford-smith.org/what-is-gender-critical-feminism-and-why-is-everyone-so-mad-about-it/

Or of course the well evidenced threat of sexual assault and rape. Showing a profound ignorance of women's history on a feminist board really isn't the win you seem to think it is.
In many countries women and girls are routinely assaulted, raped and murdered because of the lack of access to safe toilets - in the home and outside. As were women in this country until society recognised the need for women to have safe spaces to urinate when outside the home.
It's only in recent years that the predatory notion that women are no longer entitled to privacy and therefore must share spaces with men where we're vulnerable has been promoted by the hard of thinking - and certain misogynistic organisations.
Safeguarding the vulnerable - women and children - is a central tenet of a civilised and responsible society. Arguing against safeguarding the vulnerable destroys society.

Wow people really are exposing their reasoning here. Alarming,

@Lostcat I think you are arguing against yourself.
Nobody is saying women should be blamed for their own assault. But rather like locking our houses to keep burglars out we also keep men out of our spaces.

No.

I think men attack women because men are the aggressor class and it is about power and control. Trans women are still part of the aggressor class and are as likely to attack women as any other male.

I don't think it has anything to do with clothing choice.

I do think that it is harmful to women to suggest the aggressor class should have increased access to spaces where women are vulnerable.

Victorian women urinating in the street would have made themselves vulnerable to attack no matter the length of their skirt.

Women shouldn't have to lose dignity because males including trans women want to be in spaces that they shouldn't be in.

I think it this line of argument is highly offensive and any feminist would know that.

I’m a person not a house,

What's alarming is seeing a poster sneering about women being sexually assaulted. Not surprising given the nature of some of their posts, but alarming that they're exposing such extreme contempt for women.

That projection again.

What's alarming is seeing a poster sneering about women being sexually assaulted

lucky that hasn’t happened in any way shape or form then isn’t it.

I see.