Trump announces executive order that says legally there are only 2 genders (hmmm did he mis-speak and meant sex?)

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Well this will add to the confusion.

Have just heard him use the word gender, even though earlier news reports had said he would say only 2 sexes.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-sign-order-proclaiming-only-160700963.html

please watch his whole speech if any of you feel any inkling of underestimating how this man is planning to end not just LGBT rights, but also women’s rights, anti-racism, climate change policies, free trade and respecting the rules based international order.

do not think he’s an ordinary politician. This man is a deeply narcissistic media personalty bully, who’s now planning to use his power to lead a racist, misogynistic and nationalistic “revolution”. Remember he calls it a revolution himself. A “cause”.

this is the time for anyone in the US and anyone in other countries who can vote for politicians in their countries who will actively and pragmatically oppose this man and realise the that the US is no longer Europe’s most important ally, but the next strategic competitor.

this is going to be worse than the first time he was in office. Brace for a rough four years

This.

It did start with the ACLU questionnaire, she staked out a lot of very far left positions in the 2020 Democratic primaries. For some reason, she thought that running to the left of Bernie Sanders was a winning strategy.

I’m a New Yorker and didn’t see that advert on TV. It’s a very expensive media market and Trump was never going to have any chance of winning in New York or New Jersey, so his campaign spent very little advertising here. If you wanted a Trump yard sign you had to cover the cost yourself.

And this!

Seriously - do you think any of us are that niave.

A man who talks about buying Greenland and taking back the Panama Canal .............

But maybe you are new to FWR.

It is quite possible but for totally different reasons anyone might like a policy from someone they have not respect for.

The problem is, as has been said on virtually every thread on FWR, is that the left, or whatever the Democrats are meant to be (as also so called Labour in the UK) have totally sold out women's rights.

This is a forum called Feminism and Women's Rights.

If by reasons that aren't shared someone brings into law the reality of biological sex, are you saying we should not be interested, if like that, because everything else is problematic to say the least.

Or is it, that as usual women are expected to put their rights as never ever being as important as any other group that is consistently discriminated against.

Dont blame women, or even Trump for that matter, for the failure of the left and liberal political parties.

And whilst I am only too aware that audience at the speech was just maybe dominated by Trump supporters (or were they meant to dole out the limited seats for the indoor inauguration) in fact this announcement got the biggest cheer.

Sad to think that maybe Kamala might have been standing at the podium today if only she had had the guts to stand up for women.

And the slogan mentioned up thread was very clever marketing, and I had heard about here in the UK, but hadn't realised it wouldn't be seen all over the US.

Do you not understand Trump is the worst news for women in decades?

the reason he wants to affirm that there are TWO sexes is so he can take the next logical step - and one sex should be the dominant one. Guess which one.

please educate yourself www.hrw.org/news/2024/11/18/interview-womens-rights-under-trump

It’s particularly extraordinary that in the states you have such diametrical, extreme rights in contention. To have to choose between a candidate that recognises the reality of biological sex yet removes women’s essential health care, and one that applauds the medical abuse of children that is transition, is beyond belief.

Both parties spent 80-90% of their funds in just seven swing states. That Trump slogan got picked up on the national news programs because it was so wildly effective.

For all his many faults, he has a gift for reading the national mood and connecting with ordinary voters.

The man has a gift for manipulation and lying. He will say whatever is needed to get in power. He’s realised the gender thing was a hit. But he’s backed by people with much more sinister and misogynistic agendas. Look at JD Vance and Elon.

@leftorrightnow our pleasure at one sentence, one action, does not imply anything more than that.

I’m fairly sure every woman in FWR agrees that Trump is a nightmare and that women’s rights are still under threat. We are just pleased about this one thing. That’s all.

Well that’s what trump knows. He’s picked up on this narrow and contentious issue and he’s scoring votes and popularity on it. No point being pleased about a sentence that are a nod to misogynistic bigots bend on rolling back women’s rights. We need to understand what things mean in the context they’re said.

I’m not a Trump fan, but hearing this on the radio 📻 on the way home made me think “ Now that I do agree with .
Men are men and women are women
One can pretend to be the opposite sex- but it doesn’t make it reality.

What an insight. He’s a wonderful demagogue.

Exactly this

it’s so frustrating. We’ve spent years on here saying the left (and what counts as the left in America) embracing extreme gender ideology and denying biological reality was a gift to the right wing

and we were called bigots and Nazis and told to die in grease fires

and now here we fucking are! It’s not the fault of women that so many politicians on the left privileged TRA and hounded any one but most especially women who tried to stand up fir biological reality

That’s right and I do agree. The left lost too much sympathy on being too forward leaning on gender ideology.

but that doesn’t mean we should confuse trump with a win for women’s rights. He’s the opposite.

And we aren’t. We aren’t confusing trump with a win for women’s rights. We are well aware it’s an accidental alignment on this occasion.
Bloody good one, still.

Yep I take the news as if that if you were born male you can’t change you legal ID to say F, where now you can self declaring F.

It is the easiest way to absolutely strip away the powers of self ID. Where anyone for any reason can just change their legal sex on there ID to be dishonest.

Will be interesting to know how this impact people who have already lied on their legal documents.

I dislike Trump. I find a lot of his policies awful, like refusing to have a national or state run free healthcare, row v wade, etc.

But making this one of his first executive orders is big news and will signal a shift in attitudes.

Gender and sex are used interchangeably in the US.

Omg this drives me nuts. This is what this shit does to the whole world. Picks up on disjointed lines and causes that resonates with different groups. Same as his administration. Bunch of misaligned people who all just have the job of resonating with one group or another. He speaks to the most base instincts on all levels. Bet a few women votes for him just because of this agenda. Makes me hate politics.

please don’t go around saying things like this IRL.

this man has enough support for his lunacy as it is.

Omg yes! Because we all we know that in a world facing a climate change disaster, multiple wars and vast inequality globally and within the US, both in terms of genders and ethnicity and classes, all we need is to stop people from legally changing their genders.

phew. All will
be better now.

You know I’ve always found coming on here shouting at ppl that they’re stupid and don’t understand the big picture is a sure fire way of winning hearts and minds and not in anyway exactly how we arrived at where we are in the first place

Well I don’t have any more patience with people who give this disaster of a man any grace on any front. Michelle Obama said when they go low we go high and they lost. I think her tone today is fuck it.

take what I said or leave it.

the big mistake is people don’t realise how serous the situation is and how catastrophic this man is for the US and the world.

if you’re in doubt watch how tense and quiet all European state leaders are in their responses to him. They know shit is about to hit the fan.

I don’t understand? It’s as though we are speaking a different language.

Would it reassure you to know that I’d didn’t vote for him, what with not being American?

Literally all I’m saying is, ‘Great, he got one thing right!’.

Why don’t you want us to say that? The man’s a freaking nightmare, who happened to say one good thing today.

I mean I could shout back?!
“OMG this drives me nuts, people coming on here are saying Trump is awesome and sent by God and gonna change the world and make America great again, just cause he knows what a woman is…!”