Three-day ban on Reddit for “hate”

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The only thing I can think of is posting on a UK sub about male violence. A man said that it’s not just men who have a problem with being violent because he’d been assaulted by a trans woman. I replied, “how did you know your assailant was trans?”.

They literally have subs for men to masturbate to videos of women who have a look of being “dead behind the eyes” they’ve been abused so much.

(It’s either that or somebody doesn’t like my crochet advice).

Why is there any discussion of segregation or sexual violence by men? Why talk about patriarchal structures or power? There is no need for concerns about personal boundaries or toilets or rape centres or prisons. Why even contemplate gender critical women requiring third spaces? That must all be irrelevant if TWAW. Where is the strength of your convictions @Lostcat

I may have missed it. But have you clarified that your position is that: TW have the right to complete and unfettered access to all women’s spaces because TW are women.

This surely must be the benchmark to clarify from which all other discussion flows…

Edited to add that I’m afraid that the thread will run out before clarity from Lostcat on this very important point.

But are we including females born with a vagina and males with a penis who identify as women

or just females ?

i am not sure you have thought this through

No, why would it mean that?!

if patriarchy is caused by biology, how do you propose changing it? Isnt the whole premise of your belief system that YOU CANT CHANGE BIOLOGY!?

YOU CANT CHANGE BIOLOGY!?

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the Yougov survey presumably collected data on both natal sex and gender id, but even if it didn’t it really doesn’t need to be an issue in this case since presumably trans women are the ones happy with trans people in the female toilets and if for some reason they are not that will only increase your allocation of “female natal sex “ toilets.

I said based in not caused by, and even so, there's no reason it can't be changed. Even with you trying to stop us changing it.

I don't have a belief system, and as usual, you have confused yourself.
You can't change sex, is the point. You already know that though.

what do you mean by “based in”?

its not ‘my’ allocation of female natal toilets…its ‘the’allocation of female natal toilets

trans women are the ones happy with trans people in the female toilets

No, not all of them are. Surprised you don't know that with your deep understanding of trans people

Is it accurate to articulate your position as TW have the right to complete and unfettered access to all women’s spaces because TW are women?

Ok the allocation of the toilets wanted by you and other women who don’t want to share with trans women.

Ok the allocation of the toilets wanted by you and other women who don’t want to share with trans women

when did i saythat?

shouldnt assume

So you are happy to share toilets with trans women? So what are we debating?

Oh we're back to the mirroring questions where you pretend you don't understand basic words. You need a new script, you just go around and around.

To sum up for you:
Patriarchy has it's roots in biology.
No human has ever or can ever change sex.
Transwomen are men.
You're homophobic and misogynistic.
You're wasting your life.

Anything else you need?

You're homophobic and misogynistic.
You're wasting your life

lovely.

But this cannot be right. Why would you just not tell @RufustheFactuaIReindeer that there cannot be any need for any additional toilets full stop if we start from your premise, which is TWAW.

It would be lovely, if you could actually listen.

You really need to own your homophobia and misogyny. If not, at least stop calling everyone transphobic, it's embarrassing.

Readers note:

On page 17 of this data collection document:

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Internal_TransgenderIssues_220720_final_extraXbreak_FINAL.pdf

It shows that for toilet usage of males with their penis (which is I believe over 95% of male people claiming to be female) that full support is only 34% of female people. That leaves 66% of female people either wanting male people to be excluded or who at the time of asking 'don't know'.

To miss out the 26% of female respondents who answered 'don't know' is rather skewing the data to falsely show support.

Either way, it is safe to say that more female people definitely want male people excluded from female toilets.

Full support drops to only 29% for changing rooms for male people with a penis who declare they are female people.

Wasting your life and causing devastating harm to children and vulnerable women

I don’t think this is helping your case

Why do the “don’t know” or neutral people default to your category ?
if it is just about personal boundaries, we only need to allocate for those with those boundaries.

Argh I forgot myself and rules I had set about replying 😓

We don't need a case. We have reality. You're the one spending your life trying to convince the world that black is white, the earth is flat, and that men are women.
Meanwhile, black is still black, the world carries on being round, and men can never be women.

Reality doesn't require an argument.

Well you do have trouble keeping anything you say straight, and end up arguing against your own position,so it's not surprising you can't help yourself answering back....

Quite the opposite way around unfortunately