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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Three-day ban on Reddit for “hate”

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ConversingWithStrangers · 30/12/2024 10:45

The only thing I can think of is posting on a UK sub about male violence. A man said that it’s not just men who have a problem with being violent because he’d been assaulted by a trans woman. I replied, “how did you know your assailant was trans?”.

They literally have subs for men to masturbate to videos of women who have a look of being “dead behind the eyes” they’ve been abused so much.

(It’s either that or somebody doesn’t like my crochet advice).

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ConversingWithStrangers · 01/01/2025 12:33

Ahh I see. You were being transphobic. I understand now.

Of course I was being disingenuous, but I don't see why it's transphobic to disagree that violence committed by a trans-identified male should count towards female violence statistics. It's dangerous to create a lie that women are as violent as men. They are not.

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TodsBlonde · 01/01/2025 12:33

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 10:03

Ahh I see. You were being transphobic. I understand now.

Edited

I don't see why these questions mean the OP was being transphobic? Surely the reddit male poster is the transphobic one here?

Brefugee · 01/01/2025 12:34

Lostcat · 31/12/2024 09:33

I don’t even think what I wrote was transphobic, quite the opposite (!)

Thats why I was confused. I don’t see how what you wrote was transphobic?

everything on redddit that isn't fawning TWAW is "transphobic". That is the rule.

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 12:40

ConversingWithStrangers · 01/01/2025 12:33

Ahh I see. You were being transphobic. I understand now.

Of course I was being disingenuous, but I don't see why it's transphobic to disagree that violence committed by a trans-identified male should count towards female violence statistics. It's dangerous to create a lie that women are as violent as men. They are not.

Of course I was being disingenuous

there it is. Moderators saw through it I guess.

Tomatocutwithazigzagedge · 01/01/2025 12:48

ConversingWithStrangers · 31/12/2024 09:22

Sorry, I wrote in anger and it’s a bit gobbledygook. I don’t even think what I wrote was transphobic, quite the opposite (!).
Ah, well, I’m enjoying the break. Perhaps I should quit the misogynistic cess pit as a New Year’s Resolution.

I quit and deleted the app a few weeks ago OP. I feel decidedly upbeat and free. I think the site was depressing me overall. 😅

I was reading a thread on MtF surgeries about an SRS gone wrong. He had too much leftover erectile tissue remaining after surgery so you can imagine the outcome during sex. The poster added photos and managed to blame his "cis" girlfriend for being too dumb to know the difference between a urethral opening and a vaginal opening with all the swelling, and a lot of the posts were berating her, as well as the surgeon who'd performed the op.

The posts against the girlfriend were pure misogyny, and against the surgeon particularly, were verging on libel, more feelings about her than facts but calls to damage her business. I reported three posts for abuse.

I received three consecutive two day bans and a threat that the next would be to throw me off the site permanently. Apparently I was using the report button to harass these people (three separate people - one report each).

I appealed each warning but got the response with a link that I'd broken rule 8. I checked the rule and there was nothing there to say you couldn't report separate posts on a single thread. There wasn't even an opportunity where they even asked why I'd reported the posts, or explained why exactly my appeal was turned down. It was all bull basically.

Christinapple · 01/01/2025 15:54

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/01/2025 01:13

Here's one lesbian's view on Reddit, @Christinapple

Reddit is one of the largest websites on the English-language internet. It brands itself as ‘the internet’s front page'. Sports leagues have official accounts, famous people answer questions, creative writing on ‘Am I The Asshole'?’ becomes New York Post articles. It’s a website that was built on the precepts of free speech, when it was founded, at least, and it's incredibly mainstream.
Yet it is also a place where lesbians cannot speak freely. If they refuse to include men in their spaces, they are banned for hate speech. They will be banned from participating in a raft of the online spaces that Reddit calls ‘subreddits’. If they try and express their disgust with the situation to Reddit’s administration, they are banned. They hop from private space to private space, desperate to avoid detection. The spaces that claim to be ‘lesbian’ walk on eggshells around men who claim to be lesbians, or are run by and for them.
Meanwhile, those very same men who insist on being included in their spaces can write long and detailed fantasies about raping lesbians. About corrective rape. About committing hate crimes against lesbians. Including in forums that are meant to be for lesbians. Long lengthy posts about some man’s long lengthy penis is apparently ‘lesbian’ these days and perfectly fine to post in lesbian spaces, and if you object, you’re a bigot, a hater, and a TERF.
But on subreddits where ‘lesbian’ is a category of pornography, those men are freely able to ban biological men from being in the videos or posting about themselves. Men are allowed to know what a lesbian is.
Actual homosexual women do not get the same privilege. For them to do such a thing is hate speech. Lesbian is a clearly defined category of pornography, but apparently when lesbian women try defining their identity, it’s ha to be all inclusive or they’re transphobic.
The largest web aggregate in the world seems to behave as if this is an acceptable state of affairs.

open.substack.com/pub/suedonym/p/in-which-i-ask-some-questions?r=7vhv8&utm_medium=ios

There are lesbian subs on reddit- the one I mentioned with 96K users and another r/acutallesbians with over half a million users amongst others, where trans women are welcomed and the "gender critical" topic is never mentioned.

I think someone on this thread said Mumsnet got some new users after reddit's r/gendercritical sub was banned for hate. So if Mumsnet "takes in" people with gender critical views who have been banned from other platforms (or had their sub banned) as well as people who have lost friends or family offline, this means Mumsnet becomes more radicalised as time goes on. Which is fine everyone has their views but my point is these views should not be seen as representative of the general population.

As for reddit it might seen a "culture shock" for someone who has been used to posting whatever they want on twitter as an example. Reddit has rules (both site-wide and on the subs) and they actually enforce them. Things like posting intentional bad-faith hate might get a warning notification, maybe a short temp ban, but violent threats and doxxing etc would get a perma ban.

Brefugee · 01/01/2025 16:16

haha, you are so funny. Reddit allows TRAs and MRAs to post absolutely vile, depraved shit about women. But if someone says "women don't have a penis" BAM! gone

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/01/2025 16:18

Christinapple · 31/12/2024 12:27

“how did you know your assailant was trans?”

Seems a strange thing to ask someone who said they were assaulted. Most people would have said "sorry to hear that" or something. I'm guessing he or someone else probably reported you thinking your comment was in bad faith and just an excuse to be anti-trans.

"& all the lesbian subs are disgracefully harassed by TRAs."

Can you provide evidence for this? btw "TRA" for anyone who isn't "gender critical" is often considered derogatory. And by "lesbian sub" can we clarify if you mean the actual lesbian subs (which are welcoming of trans women) or do you mean subs that are mainly gender critical?

Please stop gatekeeping "actual lesbianism".

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/01/2025 16:25

There are lesbian subs on reddit- the one I mentioned with 96K users and another r/acutallesbians with over half a million users amongst others, where trans women are welcomed and the "gender critical" topic is never mentioned.

Several of those "lesbian" subs were set up as lesbian subs and then brigaded and taken over by men.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/01/2025 16:30

Also good to see you handwaving away men's violent fantasies about lesbians, while berating women for posting radical feminist stuff @Christinapple - stay classy!

EscCtrl · 01/01/2025 16:58

Crochet can be a controversial subject: apparently these days you can't go round questioning someone else's yarn.

Abhannmor · 01/01/2025 17:15

Toseland · 31/12/2024 09:34

Do you remember when Reddit closed down all the feminist and GC women's groups? I do, I was on Mumsnet that night, there was a sudden influx of women who had been kicked out. Reddit has it's thumb firmly on the scales and has some very dodgy moderators, Aimee Challenor for one.

That's when I binned Reddit

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 17:37

Christinapple · 01/01/2025 15:54

There are lesbian subs on reddit- the one I mentioned with 96K users and another r/acutallesbians with over half a million users amongst others, where trans women are welcomed and the "gender critical" topic is never mentioned.

I think someone on this thread said Mumsnet got some new users after reddit's r/gendercritical sub was banned for hate. So if Mumsnet "takes in" people with gender critical views who have been banned from other platforms (or had their sub banned) as well as people who have lost friends or family offline, this means Mumsnet becomes more radicalised as time goes on. Which is fine everyone has their views but my point is these views should not be seen as representative of the general population.

As for reddit it might seen a "culture shock" for someone who has been used to posting whatever they want on twitter as an example. Reddit has rules (both site-wide and on the subs) and they actually enforce them. Things like posting intentional bad-faith hate might get a warning notification, maybe a short temp ban, but violent threats and doxxing etc would get a perma ban.

Yep. All of this.
The majority of lesbians do not have a problem with trans women and do not have gender critical views.
Its only a minority that do.

SnakesAndArrows · 01/01/2025 19:07

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 12:40

Of course I was being disingenuous

there it is. Moderators saw through it I guess.

It hateful to point out that the emperor is wearing no clothes?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/01/2025 19:11

The majority of lesbians do not have a problem with trans women and do not have gender critical views.

That's not actually borne out by data. Most lesbian women aren't interested in "trans women" as sexual partners. Which is hardly surprising, really.

And well done you also handwaving away a lesbian's account of how disgusting and misogynistic she finds Reddit.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/01/2025 19:16

"Meanwhile, those very same men who insist on being included in their spaces can write long and detailed fantasies about raping lesbians. About corrective rape. About committing hate crimes against lesbians. Including in forums that are meant to be for lesbians. Long lengthy posts about some man’s long lengthy penis is apparently ‘lesbian’ these days and perfectly fine to post in lesbian spaces, and if you object, you’re a bigot, a hater, and a TERF."

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/01/2025 19:24

She details some of these grim posts (and includes screenshots) in this Substack, if anyone wants receipts. Not reproducing them here.

open.substack.com/pub/suedonym/p/the-unspeakable-evil-of-rdykeconversion?r=7vhv8&utm_medium=ios

Winterskyfall · 01/01/2025 20:03

Reddit is completely captured and any dissent is silenced. You can't say a negative or factual thing about trans people, unless you are a detransitioner. Fortunately they are still allowed a voice although TRAs have repeatedly requested their sub get removed.

Christinapple · 01/01/2025 20:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/01/2025 16:18

Please stop gatekeeping "actual lesbianism".

If you have an issue with r/actuallesbians and their policy of being welcoming of trans people, by all means do take it up with their 552,000+ members.

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 20:23

SnakesAndArrows · 01/01/2025 19:07

It hateful to point out that the emperor is wearing no clothes?

‘“The emperor has no clothes" is an idiom that describes a situation where people are afraid to criticize something that is false or has no value.”’

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/01/2025 20:25

Christinapple · 01/01/2025 20:23

If you have an issue with r/actuallesbians and their policy of being welcoming of trans people, by all means do take it up with their 552,000+ members.

They all need to stop gatekeeping "actual lesbianism" then.

The idea that "actual lesbianism" must include male people and if it doesn't it's not "actual lesbianism" is horrific and homophobic .

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 20:28

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/01/2025 19:11

The majority of lesbians do not have a problem with trans women and do not have gender critical views.

That's not actually borne out by data. Most lesbian women aren't interested in "trans women" as sexual partners. Which is hardly surprising, really.

And well done you also handwaving away a lesbian's account of how disgusting and misogynistic she finds Reddit.

most lesbians have no problem with trans women being included in lesbian spaces. Most lesbian women do not support gender critical views.

Facts.

You don’t have to want to shag a person to be welcoming of them in your community . If you don’t understand this I have concerns for you.

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 20:29

Christinapple · 01/01/2025 20:23

If you have an issue with r/actuallesbians and their policy of being welcoming of trans people, by all means do take it up with their 552,000+ members.

👆🏻

Circumferences · 01/01/2025 20:32

The only reason why it looks like "the majority of lesbians have no problem with TW" is because on Reddit statistically there are more AGP people who call themselves lesbians than there are lesbians... Because all the female lesbians got banned for not being an AGP male.

NotBadConsidering · 01/01/2025 20:36

Lostcat · 01/01/2025 20:28

most lesbians have no problem with trans women being included in lesbian spaces. Most lesbian women do not support gender critical views.

Facts.

You don’t have to want to shag a person to be welcoming of them in your community . If you don’t understand this I have concerns for you.

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Hi Lostcat, I have you asked this before, but can you explain how a man claiming to be lesbian is not homophobic?

I’m sure someone who has such strong convictions who has had plenty of time to think about it can come up with a coherent answer now. TIA.

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