Another legal case - Family sues NHS for prescribing child cross sex hormones

[TheRozzers]

Looks like an important case.

PSHE Brighton nails the issue in this quote:

“A <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/ioSTS/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/01/autistic-trans-teenager-must-not-be-prescribed-hormones/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">pipeline of vulnerable, traumatised, often autisticc and same-sex attracted children in Brighton and Hove being fast tracked for irreversible sex-change treatment”.

archive.ph/2024.12.22-072840/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/22/nhs-faces-high-court-legal-fight-over-cross-sex-hormones/

You're right about what's happening but working together exists and kcsie exists. The actions some schools (not all by a long chalk) have taken in line with gender ideology because of TRAs often breaches existing safeguarding statutory guidance and law. If this was tested in court then they'd be found accountable because, as one example, the definition of emotional abuse in KCSIE would prohibit compelling all students to use wrong sex pronouns. Another example is the existing law requiring single sex toilets over 8. Not having these is illegal.

So they are clearly accountable but it remains to be seen whether they'll get away with it.

The problem is that parents (unlike activist teachers) overwhelmingly prioritize their child's well-being and health and this means - except in exceptional circumstances and possibly quite long after the fact - avoiding court cases which would be incredibly stressful for parent and child. Does anyone know how long after the fact a school can be taken to court? There may be a limit which - along with the emotional and financial stress - is prohibitive.

And we know when parents speak up not-very-child-centered teachers may take it out on the child. There are multiple anecdotal accounts on here of exactly this (not necessarily gender related but often safeguarding related) and most parents will have seen it happen in real life. This means parents hands are tied.

I hope that eventually there will be some group legal action e.g. over lack of single sex toilets

Any medic that is pro putting children on a pathway to sterilisation when they (the child) cannot understand the ramifications - see the WPATH files and the whole 'the dog isn't doing it for you any more' section - should be struck off IMO.

Wellbn has been ordered by NHS England to stop prescribing cross sex hormones to new patients who are under 18 and not to start shared care plans or take.over prescribing cross sex hormones from any private clinics
https://www.telegraph.co.uk//news/2025/05/28/nhs-orders-clinic-stop-cross-sex-drugs-transgender-children/

How does this surgery secure professional indemnity insurance when they are acting outside guidelines. The definition of negligence is acting in a way that no reasonable doctor would. The claims against them would be ruinous.

This. Children and medication are not vehicles for adult self expression, and it's pretty clear as to those adults not being an example of responsibility, sense, respect for systems or anything beyond their own sentiment.

It is an utter safeguarding disaster. Fuelled by a government who are openly allowing people to thwart law now if they think they know better and don't wanna. If some laws are optional then all justification for any law is lost.

They are an NHS surgery covered by the NHS clinical negligence scheme for general practice (CNSGP). So any liability arising from their NHS work will be paid by taxpayers.

Back in the day it was common for doctors to treat their own families but this is now regarded as unethical because you cannot have the necessary detachment to make choices in the patient's best interests. If you are so invested in being "trans" you cannot possibly have an objective view & shouldn't be involved in this care.

She thinks that her brain is being rewired with testosterone as she goes through a "second puberty".

https://www.gscene.com/news/opinion-sam-trans-man-on-drugs/

Well given that WPATH are considered to be a medical authority on trans medicine, having written the most commonly followed guidelines for child transition, it’s highly relevant to know that successful transactivist lawyer, Stephen Whittle, is a past president.

Part of the reason we are where we are is because transitioned doctors and non-medical transactivists are heavily influencing medical protocols. It’s absolutely obvious that they have a biased attitude towards transition and cannot be objective.

From Dr Samuel Hall's opinion piece above: I’m not sure what it is that makes this juxtaposition possible, but some insight has come over the past few months from my wife. She thinks I have Asperger syndrome.

Well knock me down with a feather, Sam.

"Asperger syndrome" is not in favour as a term any longer.

A lot of useful terms have dropped out of favour recently. "Autism-spectrum condition" then, if you or Sam or Sam's wife prefer it.

I would have liked to rename it Wing-Frith Syndrome after the two women who researched the condition most thoroughly (and weren't Nazis) but it wasn't my decision.

It is not diagnosed any more (which a GP should know). But there are a lot of people with past Asperger’s diagnoses who definitely do favour the term (or Aspie) for their condition and don’t want to be told be autism activists that they shouldn’t use it to describe themselves.

Not just academic lawyers like Whittle either, or activist parents justifying their actions like Susie Green. Their last set of standards of care had writers who were openly fetishists who wrote about abusing children and linked this to the SoC.

is it just me or is the language used around consent similar to that used by paedophiles claiming children could consent to and enjoy sex with adults?

I actually got chilled reading upthread

I don't find this odd at all. Seems to be par for the course in a lot of cases.

True.

There are also people diagnosed with ASD/ASC who feel more comfortable describing it as Asperger's, because the umbrella term is unclear and they are a world apart from people with more severe autism. Both they and the families of the latter often feel that way.

I think a new term will be introduced at some point. And Wing-Frith, as @AmaryllisNightAndDay says, may be a good candidate.

Sam only cares about having Sam’s own choices validated.

This sums up all trans activism and includes both those who identify as trans and need validation for their choices and those trans ‘bekind’ supporters. Both groups know they are harming others but carry on regardless. That is the very reason for the defensiveness and anger and/or hysterical rhetoric.

It is despicable and utterly heartbreaking that so many vulnerable and suggestible young people will have life long disabilities from an ideology that should have never ever managed to have progressed to this stage.

@BonfireLady is there a link to the court case last week where the Mum of "child Q" won?

I know the OP is from December so a bit old but crikey. From the father in the Telegraph article

As a family, we have been caring for our son, who has been distressed around his gender dysphoria during his final years in secondary school. We asked the school leadership, the NHS and the children services of the council to support him and keep him safe, while therapists work with him.

However, in October this year, we found out that Dr Sam Hall of WellBN had issued a prescription for powerful medication blocking male testosterone and adding female oestrogen, which impacts on brain development, fertility, and sexual function

my god, if someone did that to my child, we’ll let’s just say I’d be very motivated to make them stop and stop them doing it to anyone else’s child. I hope the father succeeds in his aim of getting a JR

Isn’t this like letting a person with active anorexia run an eating disorders clinic?

And prescribe Ozempic on demand?

Even scarier is the thought of what these activist doctors could get up to if Kim Leadbetters ‘assisted death’ bill gets passed.

Sadly, yes it is. I have a lot of sympathy for Dr Samuel Hall as autistic, female, with profound gender issues and the opinion piece is thoughtful and shows some developing insights. But Sam has not yet considered the potential effects of black-and-white thinking and the common autistic approaches to problem-solving on Sam's own decision-making. Sam should never have been put in a professional position to direct others along this pathway. Sam is too deeply and personally invested in transition to make a balanced professional judgment.

Sam claims that there's "There’s no hint or supposition of causation [between autism and gender identity issues] but there’s an association which is suspicious." Maybe there's been no hint in Sam's limited reading, but the supposition that autism can cause gender identity issues is pretty much taken for granted elsewhere. It underlies the post-Cass recommendation that children with gender identity issues should be assessed for autism. I've also seen one or two papers proposing the reverse position, that gender identity issues can cause signs of autism though not strong papers.

I'm all for a massive change in outlook around children against fixed notions of gender, Dr Hall. But I don't accept your prescriptive ideas about gender either. And certainly not the drugging.

And the irony is, I'm sure Sam would hate to be misgendered so I wont do it but when I think of Sam as female and autistic and struggling to live in a sexist society I feel much more sympathetic to Sam's own plight and less inclined to see Sam as purely exploitative.

From the article:

Why would a change of fuel, a different hormonal milieu, have such a deleterious effect on my ability to function?

It is extremely worrying that a doctor would not understand why a massive hormone imbalance affects her ability to function. And would be promoting it as a positive thing. And inflicting it on others with only her ‘judgement’ and their requests as a qualification.